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#1 Posted by Iron Doom (864 posts) - - Show Bio

Random encounter who wins?

#2 Posted by Wisppeons (3726 posts) - - Show Bio

batman vs Nightwing in a random encounter  hmm

#3 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

batgirl

nightwing is second place

#4 Posted by EganTheVile1 (6181 posts) - - Show Bio

Azrael, Batman II takes it, he kicked Bane's @$$

#5 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio

Bane is a joke. Azrael is first out.

#6 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing is second out. He is still DC's best acrobat though.

#7 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing

#8 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio
geraldthesloth said:
"Nightwing"

I just don't see that happening. Why do you think he would win?
#9 Posted by EganTheVile1 (6181 posts) - - Show Bio
erik said:
"

Bane is a joke. Azrael is first out.

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The guy who broke Batman's back a joke? Hardly, and regardless Azrael was way tougher then Batgirl so saying he's first out is the true joke
#10 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio

You clearly know nothing about Bane breaking Batman's back. He only was able to break Bruce's back after weeks of Bruce getting worn down, fighting villain after villain nonstop, not sleeping, and losing his will to be Batman. He broke a Batman that was already broken. Azrael was only able to win by making his lame a$$ batsuit, even then just barely. Batgirl would embarrass Azrael so badly it is not even funny.

#11 Posted by King Saturn (222790 posts) - - Show Bio
Batgirl wins here
#12 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Batgirl wins here
"

Finally! A man that knows his stuff.
#13 Posted by King Saturn (222790 posts) - - Show Bio
erik said:
"King Saturn said:
"Batgirl wins here
"

Finally! A man that knows his stuff."
LOL
#14 Posted by EganTheVile1 (6181 posts) - - Show Bio

I still dont see Jean Paul Valley so easily written off, he man-handled a lot of Bats enemies, and Tim Drake, plus he is the only one that uses lethal force

#15 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio
eganthevile1 said:
"Azrael, Batman II takes it, he kicked Bane's @$$"
so? Nightwing did the same in one move and batgirl is better than Nightwing
#16 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio

Lethal force doesn't mean anything. Most of Batman's rogue gallery can't fight worth a damn anyway. Ever notice how Batman's greatest enemy (Joker) is probably the physically weakest villain in DC? Azrael has never stomped anyone worth note, especially without the super batsuit. He handled a kid who is not that great of a fighter anyway compared to Batgirl. Tim takes after Batman's detective mind more than the fighting ability.

#17 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"eganthevile1 said:
"Azrael, Batman II takes it, he kicked Bane's @$$"
so? Nightwing did the same in one move and batgirl is better than Nightwing"
Lol.
#18 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

to be fair Nightwing recently knocked out Batgirl, however that can and should be included in all of the bad writing that the character has suffered

#19 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio
erik said:
"Lethal force doesn't mean anything. Most of Batman's rogue gallery can't fight worth a damn anyway. Ever notice how Batman's greatest enemy (Joker) is probably the physically weakest villain in DC? Azrael has never stomped anyone worth note, especially without the super batsuit. He handled a kid who is not that great of a fighter anyway compared to Batgirl. Tim takes after Batman's detective mind more than the fighting ability."
My memory of that entire story's a little rusty, and I remember the novelization more than I remember the actual comics, but didn't Azrael give Batman a run for his money in the final fight between the two (when Bats came back and Jean Paul refused to quit being Batman. I thought Bruce got the upper hand by screwing with Azrael's mind by pretending to be his God or something or other)?

(Correct me if I'm wrong)
#20 Posted by Owen_Porter (83152 posts) - - Show Bio
eganthevile1 said:
"I still dont see Jean Paul Valley so easily written off, he man-handled a lot of Bats enemies, and Tim Drake, plus he is the only one that uses lethal force"
Lethal force is only lethal if you can actually lay a hand on you're opponent.

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#21 Posted by Owen_Porter (83152 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"to be fair Nightwing recently knocked out Batgirl, however that can and should be included in all of the bad writing that the character has suffered"
That makes me wanna cry
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#22 Posted by EganTheVile1 (6181 posts) - - Show Bio

You show his failures, all these characters have failures... how bout in the interest of fairness showing scans of Jean Paul carving the bat symbol into his enemies like Bane, Zsasz and so on

#23 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio
Sparda said:
"erik said:
"Lethal force doesn't mean anything. Most of Batman's rogue gallery can't fight worth a damn anyway. Ever notice how Batman's greatest enemy (Joker) is probably the physically weakest villain in DC? Azrael has never stomped anyone worth note, especially without the super batsuit. He handled a kid who is not that great of a fighter anyway compared to Batgirl. Tim takes after Batman's detective mind more than the fighting ability."
My memory of that entire story's a little rusty, and I remember the novelization more than I remember the actual comics, but didn't Azrael give Batman a run for his money in the final fight between the two (when Bats came back and Jean Paul refused to quit being Batman. I thought Bruce got the upper hand by screwing with Azrael's mind by pretending to be his God or something or other)?

(Correct me if I'm wrong)"

He couldn't get past Azrael's armor so he tricked him into taking it off. Not really a run for his money though. If Azrael didn't have his indestructible armor junk on, it would have been a quick end.
#24 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio
erik said:
"Sparda said:
"erik said:
"Lethal force doesn't mean anything. Most of Batman's rogue gallery can't fight worth a damn anyway. Ever notice how Batman's greatest enemy (Joker) is probably the physically weakest villain in DC? Azrael has never stomped anyone worth note, especially without the super batsuit. He handled a kid who is not that great of a fighter anyway compared to Batgirl. Tim takes after Batman's detective mind more than the fighting ability."
My memory of that entire story's a little rusty, and I remember the novelization more than I remember the actual comics, but didn't Azrael give Batman a run for his money in the final fight between the two (when Bats came back and Jean Paul refused to quit being Batman. I thought Bruce got the upper hand by screwing with Azrael's mind by pretending to be his God or something or other)?

(Correct me if I'm wrong)"

He couldn't get past Azrael's armor so he tricked him into taking it off. Not really a run for his money though. If Azrael didn't have his indestructible armor junk on, it would have been a quick end."
I see.

Does Azrael have his armor for this battle? If Batman couldn't find a way past it then it's gotta give him a bit of help in this fight.
#25 Posted by Owen_Porter (83152 posts) - - Show Bio
eganthevile1 said:
"You show his failures, all these characters have failures... how bout in the interest of fairness showing scans of Jean Paul carving the bat symbol into his enemies like Bane, Zsasz and so on"
Your right, all these characters have failures. What I'm showing is how the character I support (Batgirl) could and would exploit the failures of Azrael. I'm not really sure what carving the bat symbol in Bane proves. Bane isn't Batgirl or even Nightwing. Batgirl was taking shots as well as delvering them to DC Martial Artists like Bronze Tiger when she was a kid.
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#26 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

lol let's see people cry....

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#27 Posted by Owen_Porter (83152 posts) - - Show Bio

That's the time you where talking about? LMAO

She just got dropped by Deathstroke. She's laid out on her back already lmao Nightwing's so weak :P

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#28 Posted by EganTheVile1 (6181 posts) - - Show Bio

Nightwing got owned by Raven, during his own wedding, Azrael could take Nightwing, he has armor even Bruce couldnt get past, and what will Batgirl do that said? I stand by Jean Paul Valley

#29 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio
Gambler said:
"That's the time you where talking about? LMAO

She just got dropped by Deathstroke. She's laid out on her back already lmao Nightwing's so weak :P"
nope, I remember Johns saying in an interview, Nightwing pulled her cape to stop her from trying to kill Deathstroke and then knocked her out (the last panel ain't just a pose lol)

eganthevile1 said:
"Nightwing got owned by Raven, during his own wedding, Azrael could take Nightwing, he has armor even Bruce couldnt get past, and what will Batgirl do that said? I stand by Jean Paul Valley"

you do realize that Raven can take the three of them in a blink of an eye right?
#30 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
"lol let's see people cry....

writing rape
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#31 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio
eganthevile1 said:
"Nightwing got owned by Raven, during his own wedding, Azrael could take Nightwing, he has armor even Bruce couldnt get past, and what will Batgirl do that said? I stand by Jean Paul Valley"

Raven has superpowers that Nightwing can't match. Also, which Azreal are you using? The Batman version or just Azreal?
#32 Posted by EganTheVile1 (6181 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah that was unfair, Raven took all of the Titans, Flash and Tim Drake

#33 Posted by Owen_Porter (83152 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
nope, I remember Johns saying in an interview, Nightwing pulled her cape to stop her from trying to kill Deathstroke and then knocked her out (the last panel ain't just a pose lol)

Hahaha dawg thats even worse :P He pulled her down from behind while she was attacking Deathstroke then sucker punched her lmao. My previous statement stands.
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#34 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio

Batgirl.

#35 Posted by Owen_Porter (83152 posts) - - Show Bio

This scan is completely out of context (just wanna mention that first lol). But I cant let Nighthunter get away with that scan.

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#36 Posted by Nighthunter (28561 posts) - - Show Bio

lol I still say that Batgirl wins and that the only case that could be made for Nightwing (who I think we can agree will end in second place) was that he recently knocked her out, but quoting myself "that can and should be included in all of the bad writing that the character has received"

#37 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol. Nightwing defecates right there.

#38 Posted by Fresh Prince (4939 posts) - - Show Bio

batgirl

#39 Posted by Erik (29783 posts) - - Show Bio
Fresh Prince said:
"batgirl"

Yes.
#40 Posted by blade hunter (1813 posts) - - Show Bio

i cant decide out of batgirl or nightwing but azreal gets his @ss handed to him by them both.

#41 Posted by vuviper (5530 posts) - - Show Bio
@blade hunter:  Azrael is no Joke, Nightwing is out of his league in this fight

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 I'd recommend reading the captions for this next fight.
#42 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper said:
" @blade hunter:  Azrael is no Joke, Nightwing is out of his league in this fight

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 I'd recommend reading the captions for this next fight.
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Viper, while I applaud your effort, I doubt you are going to get a response on this one, at least not by the person you quoted, judging from how old that post is.
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#43 Posted by vuviper (5530 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_: lol I know, more addressing what he said, rather than addressing who said it.
#44 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper said:
" @Morpheus_: lol I know, more addressing what he said, rather than addressing who said it. "
I take it you think Azrael can take Cassie, based on what I've seen you post on another thread?
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#45 Posted by vuviper (5530 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
" @vuviper said:
" @Morpheus_: lol I know, more addressing what he said, rather than addressing who said it. "
I take it you think Azrael can take Cassie, based on what I've seen you post on another thread? "
I think he'd win a majority, yes, but she definitely has a good chance.
#46 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @vuviper said:
" @Morpheus_: lol I know, more addressing what he said, rather than addressing who said it. "
I take it you think Azrael can take Cassie, based on what I've seen you post on another thread? "
I think he'd win a majority, yes, but she definitely has a good chance. "
Cassandra enjoys immense respect by most here, I think your opinion could lead to an interesting debate, especially if Gambler notices this.
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#47 Posted by vuviper (5530 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
" @vuviper said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @vuviper said:
" @Morpheus_: lol I know, more addressing what he said, rather than addressing who said it. "
I take it you think Azrael can take Cassie, based on what I've seen you post on another thread? "
I think he'd win a majority, yes, but she definitely has a good chance. "
Cassandra enjoys immense respect by most here, I think your opinion could lead to an interesting debate, especially if Gambler notices this. "
Yes, Gambler is a huge Cassie fan, I've defended her at his side before. I would have trouble proving Azrael is faster than her. But he does have some nice superhuman acrobatic showings, has extrordinary strength. And has even more Assassins training via the System. btw I think I've found the boulder feat people have mentioned, but since you can't see the whole boulder we don't know how much it weighs, and 
also don't know if he was lifting the whole thing.
#48 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @vuviper said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @vuviper said:
" @Morpheus_: lol I know, more addressing what he said, rather than addressing who said it. "
I take it you think Azrael can take Cassie, based on what I've seen you post on another thread? "
I think he'd win a majority, yes, but she definitely has a good chance. "
Cassandra enjoys immense respect by most here, I think your opinion could lead to an interesting debate, especially if Gambler notices this. "
Yes, Gambler is a huge Cassie fan, I've defended her at his side before. I would have trouble proving Azrael is faster than her. But he does have some nice superhuman acrobatic showings, has extrordinary strength. And has even more Assassins training via the System. btw I think I've found the boulder feat people have mentioned, but since you can't see the whole boulder we don't know how much it weighs, and  also don't know if he was lifting the whole thing. "
I don't think I've seen it.
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#49 Posted by vuviper (5530 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_: 


It's ok he has more easily quantifiable strength feats, this can just be an accessory one.
#50 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
Fair enough, now I see what you meant by saying a really accurate estimation of this feat cannot be given.
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