Nightwing and Captain America vs IronSpider

Who wIns

WHOA! WOW!

IronSpider stomps my friend.

I just read up the details on the Iron Spider Armor and it has A LOT of tech, which both Nightwing and Captain America won't be able to go against. The IronSpider has pulse cannons, repulser grenades, and a bunch of many other weapons.

@Shawnbaby

@Static Shock

Agggh! You guys had to embarrass me at the beginning of the thread. Anyways thanks for the reminder, sorry.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Iron_Spider_Armor

@MasterM0r0n said:

WHOA! WOW!

IronSpider rape stomps my friend.

I just read up the details on the Iron Spider Armor and it has A LOT of tech, which both Nightwing and Captain America won't be able to go against. The IronSpider has pulse cannons, repulser grenades, and a bunch of many other weapons.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Iron_Spider_Armor

You should avoid the use of the term "Rape", whatever the intent. It's against Forum rules.

As to the subject at hand...Spider-Man wins...the only thing keeping it from being a Stomp is that Peter has hero worship issues with Cap and tends to hold back in his fights against him. Nightwing is a complete non-factor here.

@MasterM0r0n said:

WHOA! WOW!

IronSpider rape stomps my friend.

You may be new here, but for future reference, please do not use the term 'rape' in that context again. That's a warning.

Anyway, Captain America was able to fight the Iron Spider by himself in the Civil War.

But there were factors in civil war and spiderman has argueably improved since then.

@Static Shock said:

Anyway, Captain America was able to fight the Iron Spider by himself in the Civil War.

I chalk that one up to the Hero Worship i mentioned earlier...Peter, fighting at his best, should be able to handle Cap fairly quickly with or without the Iron Spider.

@jashro44: @Shawnbaby: It's probably because Spider-Man respects Cap. But, with morals on, I think that's a factor that would apply every time they fought. Just my opinion.

Steve was winning, or at least holding Peter off, when they fought. Nightwing might be able to tip the scale... or get in Steve's way, which is certainly a possibility.

The team. Captain America was giving a good fight for Spidey, and Dick Grayson's gadgets should edge out a win for them.

@Static Shock said:

@jashro44: @Shawnbaby: It's probably because Spider-Man respects Cap. But, with morals on, I think that's a factor that would apply every time they fought. Just my opinion.

It's true..Spider-Man is always very conflicted when he has to go up against Cap...in Civil War though I would say he was extra conflicted due to the fact that he wasn't even sure he was on the right side. I think in a fight were Peter was actually committed to taking Captain America down...he'd do so...he wouldn't enjoy it...but he should be able to. The Physical Advantages he has over Steve are massive...and he has multiple ways of winning that don't risk hurting his idol.

The Way of the Spider training also puts him at a higher skill level than during Civil War...when the writers actually have him use that training anyway.

He does have disadvantage when fighting cap do to being a huge fan of Cap comic-books in Spider-man issue #0

But he just got Kung-fu so I think based on how he's done in a rematch in the Iron-suit he wins.

Spider-man. Even with Morals On he's got all the tools needed to put these guys down without a lot of hassle. Superior speed, strength, agility, invisibility, precognition etc.....

Team wins

Team wins

Iron Spider

Cap is the only one who will give the Spider a good fight here.

@Static Shock said:

Anyway, Captain America was able to fight the Iron Spider by himself in the Civil War.

That was PIS at its finest. With all of the power ups plus the suit, Steve should not even be able to harm Spider-Man.

Neither Cap nor Nightwing can give Parker a run for his money individually or together. The only way I see this ending with a win for the team is with a surprise taser, if Grayson's taser is strong enough to knock Parker out.

@Haaydrian: It wasn't PIS, at all, to be honest. The only significant power up that he had at the time besides organic webbing was his strength. The suit itself didn't even tip the scale. Even the way Cap went about the fight was legit (tricking Spider-Man into getting tagged, regardless of the Spider-Sense, which has happened more than once in his career).

Might have been CIS, considering Spider-Man respects Cap, but that's about it.

@Static Shock said:

@Haaydrian: It wasn't PIS, at all, to be honest. The only significant power up that he had at the time besides organic webbing was his strength. The suit itself didn't even tip the scale. Even the way Cap went about the fight was legit (tricking Spider-Man into getting tagged, regardless of the Spider-Sense, which has happened more than once in his career).

Might have been CIS, considering Spider-Man respects Cap, but that's about it.

He went H2H with Titanium Man and now he's getting punched by Cap?

@Haaydrian said:

He went H2H with Titanium Man and now he's getting punched by Cap?

It's not the first time he's been punched by Captain America, anyway (not to mention getting punched by other street-levelers, too). Going hand-to-hand with a villain that Spider-Man has no qualms of beating down is different from fighting someone that he really doesn't want to hurt.

@Static Shock said:

@Haaydrian said:

He went H2H with Titanium Man and now he's getting punched by Cap?

It's not the first time he's been punched by Captain America, anyway (not to mention getting punched by other street-levelers, too). Going hand-to-hand with a villain that Spider-Man has no qualms of beating down is different from fighting someone that he really doesn't want to hurt.

We're not discussing the Strength he has and the fact he's holding it back against Cap. That's CIS.

We're discussing the fact that he got revamped statistics, inclusing revamped durability which allowed him to get punched by a 50 tonner, but all of a sudden he gets punched by Cap and its legit?

@Haaydrian said:

We're discussing the fact that he got revamped statistics, inclusing revamped durability......

I don't think Spider-Man got an upgrade in durability after the events of the Other. I didn't read that anywhere. I kinda figured you would say that, though.

There was one other fight in civil war where spider-man had the upper hand...And civil war was before way of the spider.

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@Static Shock said:

@Haaydrian said:

We're discussing the fact that he got revamped statistics, inclusing revamped durability......

I don't think Spider-Man got an upgrade in durability after the events of the Other. I didn't read that anywhere. I kinda figured you would say that, though.

Fair enough.

@Strider92 said:

Spider-man. Even with Morals On he's got all the tools needed to put these guys down without a lot of hassle. Superior speed, strength, agility, invisibility, precognition etc.....

Exactly. Even if Spiderman a lot of respect for Captain America, doesn't mean he's going to lose to him. Spiderman will probably disarm him and tie him up and talk to Cap'.

Nightwing's gadgets won't do much against an armor with super-human-like features created by Tony Stark. So this renders Nightwing almost a non-factor in this battle.

I would call this a clear win for Spiderman 10/10.

@SpeedForceSpidersaid:

Iron Spider

@Static Shock said:

@Haaydrian said:

We're discussing the fact that he got revamped statistics, inclusing revamped durability......

I don't think Spider-Man got an upgrade in durability after the events of the Other. I didn't read that anywhere. I kinda figured you would say that, though.

The Iron Suit however does add to his durability:

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Spider-man. Even with Morals On he's got all the tools needed to put these guys down without a lot of hassle. Superior speed, strength, agility, invisibility, precognition etc.....

@Strider92: Maybe against bullets. Blunt force is a different matter.

@Static Shock said:

@Strider92: Maybe against bullets. Blunt force is a different matter.

True but Spider-man is no slouch in that department

@Strider92 said:

Spider-man. Even with Morals On he's got all the tools needed to put these guys down without a lot of hassle. Superior speed, strength, agility, invisibility, precognition etc.....

This

The team is going to win.Steve was handling Iron Spider alone during Civil War.With the help of Dick they would win.

I think i heard that spider-man was able to control spiders but if he could im not sure if that would help.

On paper Ironspider should win, but going off how Spider-Man has generally been portrayed post OMD. I'd lean towards the team here. Especially with how Cap's been written as of late, and how he was handling Spidey in IronSpidey suit during their Civil War fight. Some might call it PIS, I know I did at the time lol, but going of the showings we've had over the last 6 years or so I'd say Spidey's formidability has been scaled back and the team can take this if they play smart.