#1 Posted by SpiderKing (43 posts) - - Show Bio

Who wIns

#2 Edited by MasterM0r0n (342 posts) - - Show Bio

WHOA! WOW!

IronSpider stomps my friend.

I just read up the details on the Iron Spider Armor and it has A LOT of tech, which both Nightwing and Captain America won't be able to go against. The IronSpider has pulse cannons, repulser grenades, and a bunch of many other weapons.

Agggh! You guys had to embarrass me at the beginning of the thread. Anyways thanks for the reminder, sorry.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Iron_Spider_Armor

#3 Posted by Shawnbaby (11026 posts) - - Show Bio

@MasterM0r0n said:

WHOA! WOW!

IronSpider rape stomps my friend.

I just read up the details on the Iron Spider Armor and it has A LOT of tech, which both Nightwing and Captain America won't be able to go against. The IronSpider has pulse cannons, repulser grenades, and a bunch of many other weapons.

http://marvel.wikia.com/Iron_Spider_Armor

You should avoid the use of the term "Rape", whatever the intent. It's against Forum rules.

As to the subject at hand...Spider-Man wins...the only thing keeping it from being a Stomp is that Peter has hero worship issues with Cap and tends to hold back in his fights against him. Nightwing is a complete non-factor here.

#4 Posted by Static Shock (49108 posts) - - Show Bio

@MasterM0r0n said:

WHOA! WOW!

IronSpider rape stomps my friend.

You may be new here, but for future reference, please do not use the term 'rape' in that context again. That's a warning.

#5 Posted by Static Shock (49108 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyway, Captain America was able to fight the Iron Spider by himself in the Civil War.

#6 Posted by jashro44 (30483 posts) - - Show Bio

But there were factors in civil war and spiderman has argueably improved since then.

#7 Posted by Shawnbaby (11026 posts) - - Show Bio

@Static Shock said:

Anyway, Captain America was able to fight the Iron Spider by himself in the Civil War.

I chalk that one up to the Hero Worship i mentioned earlier...Peter, fighting at his best, should be able to handle Cap fairly quickly with or without the Iron Spider.

#8 Edited by Static Shock (49108 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: @Shawnbaby: It's probably because Spider-Man respects Cap. But, with morals on, I think that's a factor that would apply every time they fought. Just my opinion.

#9 Posted by JediXMan (33452 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve was winning, or at least holding Peter off, when they fought. Nightwing might be able to tip the scale... or get in Steve's way, which is certainly a possibility.

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#10 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (21357 posts) - - Show Bio

The team. Captain America was giving a good fight for Spidey, and Dick Grayson's gadgets should edge out a win for them.

#11 Posted by Shawnbaby (11026 posts) - - Show Bio

@Static Shock said:

@jashro44: @Shawnbaby: It's probably because Spider-Man respects Cap. But, with morals on, I think that's a factor that would apply every time they fought. Just my opinion.

It's true..Spider-Man is always very conflicted when he has to go up against Cap...in Civil War though I would say he was extra conflicted due to the fact that he wasn't even sure he was on the right side. I think in a fight were Peter was actually committed to taking Captain America down...he'd do so...he wouldn't enjoy it...but he should be able to. The Physical Advantages he has over Steve are massive...and he has multiple ways of winning that don't risk hurting his idol.

The Way of the Spider training also puts him at a higher skill level than during Civil War...when the writers actually have him use that training anyway.

#12 Posted by acer51 (2452 posts) - - Show Bio

He does have disadvantage when fighting cap do to being a huge fan of Cap comic-books in Spider-man issue #0

But he just got Kung-fu so I think based on how he's done in a rematch in the Iron-suit he wins.

#13 Posted by Strider92 (18049 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-man. Even with Morals On he's got all the tools needed to put these guys down without a lot of hassle. Superior speed, strength, agility, invisibility, precognition etc.....

#14 Posted by Stronger (5051 posts) - - Show Bio

Team wins

#15 Posted by Alexander505 (2408 posts) - - Show Bio

Team wins

#16 Posted by SpeedForceSpider (930 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Spider

#17 Posted by Nefarious (28716 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap is the only one who will give the Spider a good fight here.

#18 Posted by Haaydrian (174 posts) - - Show Bio

@Static Shock said:

Anyway, Captain America was able to fight the Iron Spider by himself in the Civil War.

That was PIS at its finest. With all of the power ups plus the suit, Steve should not even be able to harm Spider-Man.

Neither Cap nor Nightwing can give Parker a run for his money individually or together. The only way I see this ending with a win for the team is with a surprise taser, if Grayson's taser is strong enough to knock Parker out.

#19 Posted by Static Shock (49108 posts) - - Show Bio

@Haaydrian: It wasn't PIS, at all, to be honest. The only significant power up that he had at the time besides organic webbing was his strength. The suit itself didn't even tip the scale. Even the way Cap went about the fight was legit (tricking Spider-Man into getting tagged, regardless of the Spider-Sense, which has happened more than once in his career).

Might have been CIS, considering Spider-Man respects Cap, but that's about it.

#20 Posted by Haaydrian (174 posts) - - Show Bio

@Static Shock said:

@Haaydrian: It wasn't PIS, at all, to be honest. The only significant power up that he had at the time besides organic webbing was his strength. The suit itself didn't even tip the scale. Even the way Cap went about the fight was legit (tricking Spider-Man into getting tagged, regardless of the Spider-Sense, which has happened more than once in his career).

Might have been CIS, considering Spider-Man respects Cap, but that's about it.

He went H2H with Titanium Man and now he's getting punched by Cap?

#21 Posted by Static Shock (49108 posts) - - Show Bio

@Haaydrian said:

He went H2H with Titanium Man and now he's getting punched by Cap?

It's not the first time he's been punched by Captain America, anyway (not to mention getting punched by other street-levelers, too). Going hand-to-hand with a villain that Spider-Man has no qualms of beating down is different from fighting someone that he really doesn't want to hurt.

#22 Posted by Haaydrian (174 posts) - - Show Bio

@Static Shock said:

@Haaydrian said:

He went H2H with Titanium Man and now he's getting punched by Cap?

It's not the first time he's been punched by Captain America, anyway (not to mention getting punched by other street-levelers, too). Going hand-to-hand with a villain that Spider-Man has no qualms of beating down is different from fighting someone that he really doesn't want to hurt.

We're not discussing the Strength he has and the fact he's holding it back against Cap. That's CIS.

We're discussing the fact that he got revamped statistics, inclusing revamped durability which allowed him to get punched by a 50 tonner, but all of a sudden he gets punched by Cap and its legit?

#23 Posted by Static Shock (49108 posts) - - Show Bio

@Haaydrian said:

We're discussing the fact that he got revamped statistics, inclusing revamped durability......

I don't think Spider-Man got an upgrade in durability after the events of the Other. I didn't read that anywhere. I kinda figured you would say that, though.

#24 Posted by jashro44 (30483 posts) - - Show Bio

There was one other fight in civil war where spider-man had the upper hand...And civil war was before way of the spider.

#25 Posted by Haaydrian (174 posts) - - Show Bio

@Static Shock said:

@Haaydrian said:

We're discussing the fact that he got revamped statistics, inclusing revamped durability......

I don't think Spider-Man got an upgrade in durability after the events of the Other. I didn't read that anywhere. I kinda figured you would say that, though.

Fair enough.

#26 Posted by MasterM0r0n (342 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

Spider-man. Even with Morals On he's got all the tools needed to put these guys down without a lot of hassle. Superior speed, strength, agility, invisibility, precognition etc.....

Exactly. Even if Spiderman a lot of respect for Captain America, doesn't mean he's going to lose to him. Spiderman will probably disarm him and tie him up and talk to Cap'.

Nightwing's gadgets won't do much against an armor with super-human-like features created by Tony Stark. So this renders Nightwing almost a non-factor in this battle.

I would call this a clear win for Spiderman 10/10.

#27 Posted by jeanroygrant (20442 posts) - - Show Bio

@SpeedForceSpidersaid:

Iron Spider

#28 Posted by Strider92 (18049 posts) - - Show Bio

@Static Shock said:

@Haaydrian said:

We're discussing the fact that he got revamped statistics, inclusing revamped durability......

I don't think Spider-Man got an upgrade in durability after the events of the Other. I didn't read that anywhere. I kinda figured you would say that, though.

The Iron Suit however does add to his durability:

#29 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (6568 posts) - - Show Bio
@Strider92

Spider-man. Even with Morals On he's got all the tools needed to put these guys down without a lot of hassle. Superior speed, strength, agility, invisibility, precognition etc.....

This plus WOS= Win!
#30 Posted by Static Shock (49108 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92: Maybe against bullets. Blunt force is a different matter.

#31 Posted by Strider92 (18049 posts) - - Show Bio

@Static Shock said:

@Strider92: Maybe against bullets. Blunt force is a different matter.

True but Spider-man is no slouch in that department

#32 Posted by ChaosMarvel (1046 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

Spider-man. Even with Morals On he's got all the tools needed to put these guys down without a lot of hassle. Superior speed, strength, agility, invisibility, precognition etc.....

This

#33 Posted by TDK_1997 (16121 posts) - - Show Bio

The team is going to win.Steve was handling Iron Spider alone during Civil War.With the help of Dick they would win.

#34 Posted by SpiderKing (43 posts) - - Show Bio

I think i heard that spider-man was able to control spiders but if he could im not sure if that would help.

#35 Posted by SUNMAN (7379 posts) - - Show Bio

On paper Ironspider should win, but going off how Spider-Man has generally been portrayed post OMD. I'd lean towards the team here. Especially with how Cap's been written as of late, and how he was handling Spidey in IronSpidey suit during their Civil War fight. Some might call it PIS, I know I did at the time lol, but going of the showings we've had over the last 6 years or so I'd say Spidey's formidability has been scaled back and the team can take this if they play smart.