#1 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

Ms. Marvel, Iron man, Wonder man, Wasp, Black widow, Spider-woman(not a skrull)
Wolverine, Spiderman, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Echo, Hawkeye
Mr. Fantastic, Invisible woman, Human torch, Thing

Sentry and Ares have a cold and have stayed at the base.

No prep time, no SHIELD support, no other equipment. Battle takes place in an evacuated city with no innocent people.

Can they take on Superman?

#2 Posted by Iron Doom (864 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes for sure this will be a great battle with some bodies like black widow, wasp, echo, and hawkeye but other than that they can take him on

#3 Edited by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio
Supes FTW!!!
Ms. Marvel
Iron man  - These three are the only threats, And Supes still overpowers them!
Wonder man
Wasp - Useless
Black widow - Useless
Spider-woman(not a skrull) - Useless
Wolverine - Useless
Spiderman - Useless
Luke Cage - Useless
Iron Fist - Useless
Echo - Useless
Hawkeye - Useless
Mr. Fantastic - Useless
Invisible woman - Useless. Unless forming a forcefield inside Supes' head can hurt him. But she'll be dead before that can happen.
Human torch - Useless
Thing - Useless

Sentry and Ares have a cold and have stayed at the base - Too bad... Team two could have used Sentry here.

No prep time, no SHIELD support, no other equipment. Battle takes place in an evacuated city with no innocent people

Can they take on Superman?  Nope!
#4 Posted by King Saturn (225172 posts) - - Show Bio
Well if Superman is going hard at these Avengers and they have no prep time against him... Superman could wipe out this team with his sheer speed and power... Iron Man , Ms. Marvel, Wonder Man are the key players here for the Avenegrs team but none of them can keep up with The Man of Steel... unless they had some prep time... or maybe even if they had the Sentry's help here... could this fight be more entertaining
#5 Posted by Iron Doom (864 posts) - - Show Bio
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Supes FTW!!!
Ms. Marvel
Iron man  - These three are the only threats! Supes can still take them though.
Wonder man
Wasp - Useless
Black widow - Useless
Spider-woman(not a skrull) - Useless
Wolverine - Useless
Spiderman - Useless
Luke Cage - Useless
Iron Fist - Useless
Echo - Useless
Hawkeye - Useless
Mr. Fantastic - Useless
Invisible woman - Useless. Unless forming a forcefield inside Supes' head can hurt him. But she'll be dead before that can happen.
Human torch - Useless
Thing - Useless

Sentry and Ares have a cold and have stayed at the base - Too bad... Tean two could have used them.

No prep time, no SHIELD support, no other equipment. Battle takes place in an evacuated city with no innocent people.

Can they take on Superman?  Nope!
"
How is Wolverine usless he can't die he can totally take supes and also wonderman cant die either because his ionic body heals any injury he has so i say that they can take on supes
#6 Posted by King Saturn (225172 posts) - - Show Bio
Iron Doom said:
"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Supes FTW!!!
Ms. Marvel
Iron man  - These three are the only threats! Supes can still take them though.
Wonder man
Wasp - Useless
Black widow - Useless
Spider-woman(not a skrull) - Useless
Wolverine - Useless
Spiderman - Useless
Luke Cage - Useless
Iron Fist - Useless
Echo - Useless
Hawkeye - Useless
Mr. Fantastic - Useless
Invisible woman - Useless. Unless forming a forcefield inside Supes' head can hurt him. But she'll be dead before that can happen.
Human torch - Useless
Thing - Useless

Sentry and Ares have a cold and have stayed at the base - Too bad... Tean two could have used them.

No prep time, no SHIELD support, no other equipment. Battle takes place in an evacuated city with no innocent people.

Can they take on Superman?  Nope!
"
How is Wolverine usless he can't die he can totally take supes and also wonderman cant die either because his ionic body heals any injury he has so i say that they can take on supes"
Superman does not have to kill Wonder Man or Wolverine to beat them... he could easily KO them  ( his super strength is sufficient enough to do that to them )...
#7 Posted by Glorious (1590 posts) - - Show Bio

what if fantastic just wraps his arms and stuff then they pound on him

#8 Posted by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio
Iron Doom said:
How is Wolverine usless he can't die he can totally take supes..
Wolverine can die a number of ways: He doesn't have adamantium on his joints, so his head can still be ripped off, Supes can also punt him into the sun, Drown him, etc.

Also, Wolverine is not strong enough to puncture Supes' skin. There is no way he can hurt him.

wonderman cant die either because his ionic body heals any injury he has so i say that they can take on supes"
Doesn't matter. Supes is still way stronger, way faster, and can still beat him.
#9 Edited by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio
Kadaj said:
"what if fantastic just wraps his arms and stuff then they pound on him"
Mr. Fantastic would be frozen and shattered, blown away, or melted?
#10 Posted by Dark Patron (358 posts) - - Show Bio

How come Dr. Strange isn't in this fight? Isn't he on the New Avengers?

#11 Edited by King Saturn (225172 posts) - - Show Bio
Kadaj said:
"what if fantastic just wraps his arms and stuff then they pound on him"
Its kind of hard to catch someone who can move near light speed.., when you have NO superhuman speed whatsoever
#12 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman curbstomp

the fact taht the guys who could help make equal this fight are gone only makes it worse

#13 Posted by The 502 Kid (3793 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman win this, this fight will probably last 2 minutes

#14 Posted by Hal_Jordan1986 (292 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes wins
Most of these guys are going to get blitz off the bat

#15 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

Rediculous! Wonderman can match Superman for quite sometime by himself, with Iron Man Ms marvel and the rest they beat the hell out of Superman before the word go. This crazy fight won't last 5 minutes Supes would go down.

#16 Posted by King Saturn (225172 posts) - - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"Rediculous! Wonderman can match Superman for quite sometime by himself, with Iron Man Ms marvel and the rest they beat the hell out of Superman before the word go. This crazy fight won't last 5 minutes Supes would go down."
No Way
#17 Edited by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio

From what I have seen, there is about a .1% chance of SeSAW being correct.

So this can only mean there is a 99.9% chance of Supes winning!

SUPERMAN WINS 999/1000!!!

#18 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"From what I have seen, there is about a .1% chance of SeSAW being correct.

So this can only mean there is a 99.9% chance of Supes winning!

SUPERMAN WINS 999/1000!!!"
fanboy anyone?
#19 Edited by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"From what I have seen, there is about a .1% chance of SeSAW being correct.

So this can only mean there is a 99.9% chance of Supes winning!

SUPERMAN WINS 999/1000!!!"
fanboy anyone?"
Hmm?

Please. Tell me, how does Supes lose this?
#20 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"oldmagic said:
"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"From what I have seen, there is about a .1% chance of SeSAW being correct.

So this can only mean there is a 99.9% chance of Supes winning!

SUPERMAN WINS 999/1000!!!"
fanboy anyone?"
Hmm?

Please. Tell me, how does Supes lose this?"
who ever said i was voting for team 1
#21 Posted by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"From what I have seen, there is about a .1% chance of SeSAW being correct.

So this can only mean there is a 99.9% chance of Supes winning!

SUPERMAN WINS 999/1000!!!"
fanboy anyone?"
Not even close to being a fanboy. Supes easily takes this.

In case you haven't read the first post, the only big guns team one has are Wonderman, Ms. Marvel, and Iron Man, all of whom Supes can take.

The other 13 are useless.

No prep time makes it even worse.
#22 Posted by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"oldmagic said:
"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"From what I have seen, there is about a .1% chance of SeSAW being correct.

So this can only mean there is a 99.9% chance of Supes winning!

SUPERMAN WINS 999/1000!!!"
fanboy anyone?"
Hmm?

Please. Tell me, how does Supes lose this?"
who ever said i was voting for team 1"
How am I a fanboy?
#23 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

Never called you one. 

#24 Posted by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"Never called you one. "

"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"From what I have seen, there is about a .1% chance of SeSAW being correct.

So this can only mean there is a 99.9% chance of Supes winning!

SUPERMAN WINS 999/1000!!!"
fanboy anyone?"

What was the point of this post then...
#25 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

To make an example of what true fanboys are capable of. 

#26 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"Rediculous! Wonderman can match Superman for quite sometime by himself, with Iron Man Ms marvel and the rest they beat the hell out of Superman before the word go. This crazy fight won't last 5 minutes Supes would go down."
logic doesn't work that way
#27 Edited by The Man of Yesteryear (5502 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"To make an example of what true fanboys are capable of. "
and the fanboys are...
#28 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"Rediculous! Wonderman can match Superman for quite sometime by himself, with Iron Man Ms marvel and the rest they beat the hell out of Superman before the word go. This crazy fight won't last 5 minutes Supes would go down."

Please explain to us how Wonderman can match Superman.

Take your time and calmly put your logical reasoning down for us to share.
#29 Posted by GodOfDoom (311 posts) - - Show Bio
the creator said:
"SeSAW said:
"Rediculous! Wonderman can match Superman for quite sometime by himself, with Iron Man Ms marvel and the rest they beat the hell out of Superman before the word go. This crazy fight won't last 5 minutes Supes would go down."

Please explain to us how Wonderman can match Superman.

Take your time and calmly put your logical reasoning down for us to share."

wait, i can answer that. he can't

Superman ftw
#30 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

i read on wikipedia that wonderman has the strength to match Thor. Is that true?

#31 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"i read on wikipedia that wonderman has the strength to match Thor. Is that true?"
Pretty much.

Originally, according to older OHOTMU, Thor had Class 100 strength (this is the crappy Marvel Comics scale and this class was the ability to lift over 100 tonnes). How much over was debateable but my personal opinion was not that much higher (maybe around 110 tonnes on this scale). Wonderman on this scale was at 95 tonnes.
In several Avengers comics Wonder Man was decribed by himself and occasionally by others, as having being almost as strong as Thor (classic version).

Now Wonderman had his powers altered, then he died, was regenerated and settled finally with slight power mods and shifts.
New OHOTMU say that he is Class 100 in strength also.
However bear in mind that over many years there has been a growing trend of Marvel characters getting more powerful.
Do I think that Wonderman is as strong as Thor now - No.
He remains close but recently in Mighty Avengers he said he was almost as strong as the Sentry as well.
I think he will always be fractionally behind Thor.
#32 Posted by Mr. Wilson (6322 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

#33 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman wins in a very straightforward fight.
Non of the other combatants have the speed, strength or durability to avoid or resist his attacks.
If Superman went all out, this battle would take maybe 10 seconds (1'm being generous here to the Avengers).

#34 Posted by Scarlet Thor (1112 posts) - - Show Bio

Based on showings Wonderman´s strength is nowhere near Thor´s. He had problems lifting thor´s excersising bar and he have never exibited feats like lifting the Cosmic Serpent or repairing a canyon with bare hands. Wonderman´s boasting about his strength rivaling Sentry´s is not a proof about his true level. Sentry in Age of Sentry series was said to be able to lift a volcano and that is beyond anything Wonderman has ever done.
Can Wonderman match Superman`s strength. No. I can see Superman win this fight and his most dangerous opponent will be Iron Man

#35 Edited by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

Would Ares make any difference here?

#36 Posted by Scarlet Thor (1112 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"Would Ares make any difference here?"
No Ares is below Wonderman for me
#37 Posted by King Saturn (225172 posts) - - Show Bio
Scarlet Thor said:
"AtPhantom said:
"Would Ares make any difference here?"
No Ares is below Wonderman for me"
That is Correct
#38 Posted by the creator (8577 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"Would Ares make any difference here?"
Not a huge difference.
On the same marvel scale that put's Thor as Class 100 strength, Ares is put at 70 tonnes.
This makes him less strong than Wonderman, the Thing and even the Rhino.

Here's some more info on him mfrom an ealier OHOTMU,

As an immortal god, Ares possesses vast strength and endurance. His physical capabilities are superior to those of the majority of Olympian gods. He has virtually inexhaustible stamina, and does not tire appreciably after any exertion.

Like all Olympian, Ares is immortal, possessing a life essence that cannot be ended by any conventional means. He can be wounded in battle, but his godly life force gives him incredible recuperative abilities. He can fully recover from penetration wounds (such as by knife, sword, or bullet) in anywhere from minutes to hours, depending on their severity. Only an injury of such magnitude that it incinerates him or disperses a major portion of his bodily molecules could cause him physical death. Even then, his life essence may still be unharmed, and Zeus may be able to resurrect him.

Ares is very tough, like Hercules and Thor are. He can withstand huge impacts, for instance punches from his half brother Hercules.
However I don't see him regenerating quickly (if at all) from having his head cut off by heat vision or from having his head flattened by Superman's fist.

#39 Edited by Matches (224 posts) - - Show Bio

i would say, battle begins 07:00:00 and battle ends 07:00:06
and the outcome....

Ms. Marvel RIP
Iron man  - RIP
Wonder man - RIP
Wasp - RIP
Black widow - RIP
Spider-woman(not a skrull) - RIP
Wolverine - RIP
Spiderman - RIP
Luke Cage - RIP
Iron Fist - RIP
Echo - RIP
Hawkeye - RIP
Mr. Fantastic - RIP
Invisible woman - RIP
Human torch - RIP
Thing - RIP

he is near the speed of light, so that literally means that if you flick a switch, they're all wiped out around the same time as the light comes on...

#40 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

So let's wrap this up.

The only chance three premier marvel teams have against superman is if Sentry can overcome his agoraphobia or fly or whatever and actually leave the house.