New 52 wonder woman vs New 52 shazam

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Wonder Woman

Shazam is almost featless.

ends in sex

This is pointless. Give it time. N52 is still young..

Shazam wins via ability to make a ping-pong table.

@erkan12: lol

Ends in sex

Diana takes off his head

Diana drags him into space.

Shazam isn't nearly at his full potential yet especially since he is still discovering new powers, so for now I would give it to WW but that might change in the future.

Diana

Being in space doesn't mean anything. Black Adam in the New-52 can breathe in space. She also commented she could not last in space whereas Superman/Superdoom could.

True but Shazam should be Skyfather level at this point. The old Wizard had the power to remove other God's powers.

Wonder Woman.

Ends in Ping Pong. Bloody

When has Shazam breathed in space? She seemed to be just fine when she was in space countrary to what she said.

And she still cuts off his head. If Billy wants to win, he'll need to be faster about learning how to manipulate matter(which he can do evidently).

When? And that doesn't really put you at Skyfather level

@highaccuser: He hasn't, but Black Adam has in the New-52 so there's no reason to believe he can't. She said she wouldn't last too long, especially not compared to Superdoom.

Yes, he can matter manipulate her, he already swatted away a morals off Wonder Woman.

• Kirby's Fourth World
• The Wizard has always been a Skyfather level being - now Billy is The Wizard

@erkan12: lmao, I love that scan, where is it from? The new jl

@slimj87d: Justice League #31

I'm asking of New 52 Shazam. What he's done Pre-52 has no bearing here.

Lol frozen is at it again. Always misconstruing.

@dondave: It's a good indication to his powerset regardless of old canon.

New Wizard has not done that - he's given power however.

Great but it in no way should make you think that Billy is going to be Skyfather level, even when he gained Shazam's power Pre-52 Black Adam still beat the crap out of him.

@dondave: Black Adam beat him because he was inexperienced in that role. If Billy wanted to, he could just matter manipulate him. Same Black Adam took on DC's heroes at once in WW3.

He isn't experienced in the New 52 either. And it wasn't WW3 Adam, he was back with Isis and didn't have the rage that fueled him during WW3.

I know, he's still gaining experience - though New-52 Adam can also matter manipulate, as we've seen him turn people to stone, it would not be a factor with old Black Adam.

Black Adam towards the end of Pre-Flashpoint DCU was already written towards being top-tier, he was trashing Alan Scott and severely weakened he thunder-clapped an angry Power Girl.

@erkan12: so cap and adam have matter manipulation and transmutation now? I like them both but this pretty op considering

Godly levels of the following: strength, speed, stamina, durability, energy projection, flight, regeneration, and self sustainable

Oh and the ability of interdimensional travel(limited? ).....WTF?!

edit: wonder woman needs the sword to win handedly but can currently edge the win over cap without it but that will change

It's been established Adam is way more experience than Teth. Him doing something does not mean Billy can.

He's never matter manipulated in combat before. He knocked away Wonder Woman once and the fight was inconclusive.

Also, he's been knocked away and restrained by Frankenstein, who couldn't even break through Omac's shields, which Superman basically 2 shotted.

Where did it happen?

New52 billy is somewhat featless. Although in trinity war he knocked ww and was tanking some attacks while holding pandora's box

Durability-wise: if he and black adam have the same level of durability it is low because ultra-man crushed black adam's jaw with a squeeze of his hand.........RESPECT TO ULTRA-MAN.......

@agent41: i did't say he k.o ww, i said he knocked her down........just like he knocked supes down in kandaq but supes wasn't k.o'd......hope you understand

@argent41: i said at first that he is somewhat featless and went on to add that he knocked ww in trinity war and besides she was expecting it, it was not a sting puch, he held her before she could use her sword on him and he punched her(considering this is a possessed ww) so the punch is quite a feat imo.

Wonder Xena... I mean Wonder Woman will kill Billy before he can create another paddle for his ping pong table. I don't think his power is "Matter manipulation". It's straight up MAGIC, as in "Reality Alteration" magic. Once Billy figures out his skillset, the JL is going to have to take him down. Remember when he wanted money, zapped the ATM, and it just gave him money? Anyhow, right now, WW has the advantage of ruthlessness and skill to kill him very quickly with her weapons.

Shazam needs more feats

@kingant27: @flashgreatersigneveryone: if it ends in sex shouldn't it be illegal

He turned people to stone.

• All Billy does is strike her with lightning, it isn't hard
• He knocked away a morals-off Wonder Woman, good enough to say he can tag her
• Superman's also a lot more powerful than Wonder Woman

@frozen:

• All Billy does is strike her with lightning, it isn't hard
• He knocked away a morals-off Wonder Woman, good enough to say he can tag her
• Superman's also a lot more powerful than Wonder Woman

1. Nor would it do a lot.
2. In an instance where she isn't using her speed well.
3. By feats, yes. But we've seen her beat two kyrptonians who were strong enough to play ping pong with him.

• It would matter manipulate her
• She was seen visibly blitzing towards her
• Superman wasn't fighting back - it didn't really represent his abilities, a morals-off Superman would solo them

I dont believe the matter manipulation will work on Wonder Woman. When Hera found out the truth about Diana being the daughter of Zues, she tried tried to turn them all to snakes and stone. It worked on everyone except Diana. Also when Constantine used magic to make a crime scene invisible during Trinity wars, it didn't effect WW.

WW also has a bunch of new powers now. She recently showed the power to shoot an energy bolt right through Metallo. And she recently gained control over lightning, though she hasnt used it in combat yet. According to feats, she should be stronger, faster, better fighter, and more versatile.

Unless Billy gains some new feats, he loses to WW.

Ignoring the lack of feats for Shazam I say Wonder Woman because of his glaring inexperience.

• Based on what?
• I don't recall that. Scans.
• He wasn't fighting back because they didn't let him. Superman would solo them because of his superior boxing skills, not because of a difference in physicals. In the new 52 Kyrptonians are fully charged right off the bat when they get to earth it seems.

As other say, this is pointless until we get more from Shazam.

As other say, this is pointless until we get more from Shazam.

It seems they've encountered once in New52 too.