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Posted by Worlds_only_DC_fan (119 posts) 11 months, 16 days ago

Poll: New 52 Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) VS. Modern Thor (92 votes)

Thor 65%
Green Lantern 34%

Setting: Space.

In character, no bloodlust.

Hal has both a green ring and a unlimited battery charge.

Normal Modern Thor.

#1 Edited by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor obilterates New 52 Hal.

#2 Posted by Worlds_only_DC_fan (119 posts) - - Show Bio

@thundergodswrath: Reasons? I just got in to comics about 2 months ago, so I would like to learn the capabilities of the modern heroes.

#3 Edited by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@worlds_only_dc_fan: He has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he can hang with current Thor.

#4 Posted by Worlds_only_DC_fan (119 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh, my bad, I just saw him slug New 52 Supes a few times and I thought he might be able t keep Thor at range, I'll have to read more comics I guess.

#5 Edited by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@worlds_only_dc_fan: Thor would destroy his constructs without much trouble, and can tank anything thrown at him. A hammer throw to the face should put Half down. Pre-Flaspoint Half would have been a better choice, but even he would lose eventually.

#6 Edited by DeathandGrim (2072 posts) - - Show Bio

@thundergodswrath: You realize the GLs are pretty much the same as pre new 52, don't you?

#7 Posted by Bezza (3835 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, Thor is pretty powerful in comics at the moment. Having said that he has plenty of options and plenty of speed, so I don't agree that Thor "obliterates". I say Thor wins but after a good battle.

#8 Posted by Worlds_only_DC_fan (119 posts) - - Show Bio

How about Hal gets a blue ring that doubles his power? Would he be able to keep up then?

#9 Edited by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@bezza: Based off of feats they are not. That's like me saying Classic Thor equals modern Thor.

Hal has not shown any combat speed over Thor. Travel speed isn't going to help when your opponent can fly multiple times faster than light. Yes, Thor obliterates.

#10 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (2874 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor.

#11 Posted by Mxyzptlk_CV (1179 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Lantern Hal Jordan wins this...

#12 Posted by Sebast_Allen (1727 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor ftw

#13 Posted by WarBlade539 (4712 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor wins. But I wish DC would portray the Lanterns as being more powerful than Kryptonians and such...at least the experienced ones anyway.

I hate how the constructs go down so easily to Superman's punches. On paper, guys like Hal or Sinestro should beat Kal-El or any of the other bricks.

#14 Posted by thanosii (1326 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor very easily

#15 Posted by Experio (16935 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Lantern Hal Jordan wins this...

How did you come up with that conclusion?

#16 Posted by dondave (38784 posts) - - Show Bio

Hal

#17 Posted by Jhaigo99 (177 posts) - - Show Bio

I've heard that Green Lanterns are the same as Pre-Flashpoint so Hal should be a whole lot stronger.

#18 Edited by _Atomikill_ (4339 posts) - - Show Bio

Hal wins. With unlimited battery charge, that just makes him like a Green Larfleeze.

#19 Edited by Bezza (3835 posts) - - Show Bio

@thundergodswrath:

Well, judging by your forum name, you're not really impartial, and as for New 52 not having any feats, he has a few.

Drawing blood from Superman

Ko's multiple Helicopters

An effective bazooka type blast!

I'm not saying he beats Thor, but even in New 52 guise, Hal has shown enough resourcefulness/tricks to at least make Thor work for it...and yeah, Thor can fly at light speed, but his combat speed showings are often variable...

#20 Edited by RetconCrisis (4418 posts) - - Show Bio

Just to say, Geoff Johns has stated that GL continuity has not been retconned in the New 52, so New 52 Hal is the same as Pre 52, and all feats apply. Because of that, he has a chance. I still believe Thor wins.

#21 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@bezza: Ah don't judge me by name, it's irrelevant. I know when Thor loses and this is not a moment. Half hurting New 52 Superman is impressive, but Thor is more durable than New Dupes. Killing a no-name lantern is not impressive though. We do not know how powerful he was. As for speed, Hal doesn't have anything to say Thor can't tag him. He constantly tags fast beings, just because a scan does not say something like " Thor reacted at nanosecond speed to block the Sentry's attack" doesn't mean he's slow. I think this is something people need to understand.

#22 Posted by SOG7dc (7819 posts) - - Show Bio
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#23 Posted by Justthatkid (4646 posts) - - Show Bio

Hal.

#24 Posted by BigCimmerian (8681 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor destroys him, everything Hal throws at him Thor can crush.

#25 Posted by alessandro_souzamarques (699 posts) - - Show Bio

@bezza said:

@thundergodswrath:

Well, judging by your forum name, you're not really impartial, and as for New 52 not having any feats, he has a few.

Drawing blood from Superman

Ko's multiple Helicopters

An effective bazooka type blast!

I'm not saying he beats Thor, but even in New 52 guise, Hal has shown enough resourcefulness/tricks to at least make Thor work for it...and yeah, Thor can fly at light speed, but his combat speed showings are often variable...

Hal got stomped by Superman after that.

#26 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

@sog7dc: Who Krona? Wasnt that before New 52?

#27 Posted by SOG7dc (7819 posts) - - Show Bio

@sog7dc: Who Krona? Wasnt that before New 52?

no im pretty certain it was in the "wrath of the first lantern" arc....i could be wrong though....if it was in the new 52, though, all im saying is that Hal is no pushover and presents a major challenge to Thor. This is why i made that thread a while back about lanterns gettng so little respect.

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#28 Posted by SOG7dc (7819 posts) - - Show Bio

@sog7dc said:

@thundergodswrath said:

@sog7dc: Who Krona? Wasnt that before New 52?

no im pretty certain it was in the "wrath of the first lantern" arc....i could be wrong though....if it was in the new 52, though, all im saying is that Hal is no pushover and presents a major challenge to Thor. This is why i made that thread a while back about lanterns gettng so little respect.

i was wrong. that was pre-52. but were the GLs even retconned like everyone else? i mean it seems like they were JUST retconned with the end of "Lights Out"

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#29 Posted by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio
#30 Posted by dondave (38784 posts) - - Show Bio

@sog7dc said:

@sog7dc said:

@thundergodswrath said:

@sog7dc: Who Krona? Wasnt that before New 52?

no im pretty certain it was in the "wrath of the first lantern" arc....i could be wrong though....if it was in the new 52, though, all im saying is that Hal is no pushover and presents a major challenge to Thor. This is why i made that thread a while back about lanterns gettng so little respect.

i was wrong. that was pre-52. but were the GLs even retconned like everyone else? i mean it seems like they were JUST retconned with the end of "Lights Out"

The GL's haven't been retconned

#31 Posted by Erick_Williams (758 posts) - - Show Bio

Hal

#32 Posted by TommyJones1945 (751 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor destroys him, everything Hal throws at him Thor can crush.

Being able to destroy a construct doesn't = win. Its like saying drawing blood from someone means you'll automatically win. I'm not saying Hal'll win, but at least give it some thought without adhering to the usual "The character I like curbstomps". CIN.

#33 Posted by Dratini1331 (7040 posts) - - Show Bio

n52 Hal's constructs are so weak -.- Yeah they hurt superman, but so did batman on Bane venom...

#34 Edited by 18hunt (2948 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor rocks him like a hurricane

#35 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5610 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor kills Hal.

#36 Posted by oceanmaster21 (8690 posts) - - Show Bio
#37 Posted by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

@bezza said:

@thundergodswrath:

Well, judging by your forum name, you're not really impartial, and as for New 52 not having any feats, he has a few.

Drawing blood from Superman

Ko's multiple Helicopters

An effective bazooka type blast!

I'm not saying he beats Thor, but even in New 52 guise, Hal has shown enough resourcefulness/tricks to at least make Thor work for it...and yeah, Thor can fly at light speed, but his combat speed showings are often variable...

Hal got stomped by Superman after that.

Drawing Blood from Superman seems to be ridiculously easy in New 52. Batman did it on Venom.

And what happened after GL Drew Blood on Superman? Superman easily shattered all his constructs.

#38 Posted by TommyJones1945 (751 posts) - - Show Bio

n52 Hal's constructs are so weak -.- Yeah they hurt superman, but so did batman on Bane venom...

Drawing Blood from Superman seems to be ridiculously easy in New 52. Batman did it on Venom.

And what happened after GL Drew Blood on Superman? Superman easily shattered all his constructs.

Just so you guys know. That instant was PIS.

#39 Posted by thanosii (1326 posts) - - Show Bio

Im impressed that some people actually make a case for Hal

#40 Edited by Dratini1331 (7040 posts) - - Show Bio

@tommyjones1945: Yeah, I know, but still… n52 Gl constructs aren't exactly the most impressive in history.

#41 Posted by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

@dratini1331 said:

n52 Hal's constructs are so weak -.- Yeah they hurt superman, but so did batman on Bane venom...

@shawnbaby said:

Drawing Blood from Superman seems to be ridiculously easy in New 52. Batman did it on Venom.

And what happened after GL Drew Blood on Superman? Superman easily shattered all his constructs.

Just so you guys know. That instant was PIS.

Well yes...of course it was. Otherwise Batman would have been pulverized instantly by Bane's hits. But there's nothing showing that GL making Clark bleed is any different. Clark casually smashes through GL's Constructs. Wonder Woman Casually smashes them as well. New 52 GL constructs are weak. Too weak to honestly make Superman bleed.

#42 Posted by godzilla44 (3577 posts) - - Show Bio

I think thor wins but GL puts up a good fight

#43 Posted by isaac_clarke (5460 posts) - - Show Bio

@tommyjones1945 said:

Just so you guys know. That instant was PIS.

Nah, this is insane PIS:

That's just New 52 Superman terrible habit of biting his lip every time someone punches him.

Comics have a penchant for making 'hero vs hero' fights not entirely as one-sided as they should be, especially in situations with a massive power-gap. Venom realistically shouldn't give Batman punches that will hurt Superman, just like Wolverine shouldn't be tanking Thor's lightning - but it happens on panel.

#44 Posted by TommyJones1945 (751 posts) - - Show Bio

@tommyjones1945 said:

@dratini1331 said:

n52 Hal's constructs are so weak -.- Yeah they hurt superman, but so did batman on Bane venom...

@shawnbaby said:

Drawing Blood from Superman seems to be ridiculously easy in New 52. Batman did it on Venom.

And what happened after GL Drew Blood on Superman? Superman easily shattered all his constructs.

Just so you guys know. That instant was PIS.

Well yes...of course it was. Otherwise Batman would have been pulverized instantly by Bane's hits. But there's nothing showing that GL making Clark bleed is any different. Clark casually smashes through GL's Constructs. Wonder Woman Casually smashes them as well. New 52 GL constructs are weak. Too weak to honestly make Superman bleed.

So you know it was PIS yet still cited it. First off, Supes smashed through a Hal's shields while he was rookie. Superman went through years of honing his skills/powers. Hal had only briefly gotten his ring. The WW instant makes sense, cus she's f***ing WW who's pissed, and I fail to see how she did it casually. CIN.

#45 Edited by BigCimmerian (8681 posts) - - Show Bio

@bigcimmerian said:

Thor destroys him, everything Hal throws at him Thor can crush.

Being able to destroy a construct doesn't = win. Its like saying drawing blood from someone means you'll automatically win. I'm not saying Hal'll win, but at least give it some thought without adhering to the usual "The character I like curbstomps". CIN.

It's not the same as drawing blood from someone lol. If you can destroy your enemies main weapon and if it can't hurt you, you curbstomp him.

#46 Posted by Mxyzptlk_CV (1179 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio said:

@mxyzptlk_cv said:

Green Lantern Hal Jordan wins this...

How did you come up with that conclusion?

unlimited supply of energy....that's why he wins...However, I believe that even without it he would defeat him...

#47 Edited by alessandro_souzamarques (699 posts) - - Show Bio

@tommyjones1945 said:

@bigcimmerian said:

Thor destroys him, everything Hal throws at him Thor can crush.

Being able to destroy a construct doesn't = win. Its like saying drawing blood from someone means you'll automatically win. I'm not saying Hal'll win, but at least give it some thought without adhering to the usual "The character I like curbstomps". CIN.

Thor can either crush Hal constructs or absorb everything Hal throws at him. How is Hal going to even give Thor a fight if he can do nothing without constructs?

#48 Posted by BigCimmerian (8681 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio said:

@mxyzptlk_cv said:

Green Lantern Hal Jordan wins this...

How did you come up with that conclusion?

unlimited supply of energy....that's why he wins...However, I believe that even without it he would defeat him...

How? Everything Hal throws at him Thor can shatter and crush, without unlimited energy Thor just absorbs his energy and then pimp slap him. Now I expect that you will tell me it's out of character for Thor to absorb energy, but he's doing it whenever he's facing enemy with energy projection and manipulation. He will quickly figure out that those are Hal's only powers and he will drain him.

#49 Posted by CheeseSticks (2566 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor stomps. Superman and WW destroyed his constructs with no effort.

Spite thread.

#50 Posted by Experio (16935 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio said:

@mxyzptlk_cv said:

Green Lantern Hal Jordan wins this...

How did you come up with that conclusion?

unlimited supply of energy....that's why he wins...However, I believe that even without it he would defeat him...

Unlimited energy would just be delaying the inevitable