New 52 Flash runs the Gauntlet

Barry Allen

Location is Keystone City,

BFR allowed.

New 52 Versions of Everyone.

Round 1:

Wonder Woman and Aquaman,

Battle is on Themyscirian beach.

Morals are on for Barry, Off for Diana and Arthur

Round 2:

Captain Marvel and Black Adam

Morals are on, but Barry's pissed. Morals off for Billy and Teth. Battle is in Cairo.

Round 3:

Superman and Martian Manhunter

Everyone is morals off. Battle is in Metropolis.

Round 4:

Captain Atom

Both are Morals off. Battle is in Keystone City.

Round 5:

Darkseid

Both are morals off. Barry BFR's Darkseid into the speedforce, the battle takes place there.

stops at three

Could stop at three if Manhunter activates his phasing quick enough and mind wipes Barry. (Probably won't.) Most likely stops at four. I'd say Atom's speed is around Flashes but due to Captain Atom's other abilities such as matter manipulation, energy manipulation, etc. he'd take Flash down. Darkseid should be below the Captain by the way. Atom would handle him and everyone else on this list at the same time.

Stops at 3

Stop at 4, barry already showed his phasing is greater than martian manhunter. Darksied should be below captain atom

Though New 52 Captain Atom is virtually a reality warper, Darkseid does seem more powerful. He's a greater threat that Atom. Albeit Atom does have some impressive feats. As for Atom vs Flash, speed is comparable, yes but he's not as fast as Barry. Between Barry's bfr ability into the speedforce where he's "King", phasing, speed mind etc.. So I don't imagine he's a pushover to anyone.

@supermanwithatan01:

What resistance has Darkseid (In the New52) shown to matter manipulation? And no, Darkseid in the New52 does not seem that powerful due to a lack of showings. I could make a case for Superman beating him as it stands. And I'd hardly say Flash was faster than Atom. Maybe by a small bit but not to much that Atom couldn't tag him and intangibility should prevent Flash from bring Atom into the speed force.

@the_man_with_questions: Flash can vibrate fast enough to go intangible as well. Flash should beat all of them here without much difficulty except captain atom which would be a toss up.

@houseshm:

Your point is? Intangible beings can't touch intangible beings. Atom can still manipulate his molecules whilst he's intangible and Flash can't do anything.

Few things here.

1) I have no clue, and neither do you.

2) We know what Anti Monitor thinks of him, don't we?

3) Flash is faster than Atom. Atoms fastest feat was nanosecond, Barry's was femtosecond before he even knew how to use his power properly.

4) Physical touch has nothing to do with Barry's bfr, he does it with his mind. I'm not saying no one's exempt from it by any means, but that's what's worth debating. Plus, Atom's too slow to be intangible before being BFR'd, and even if he phases, Barry was superior to J'onn in that regard. Idk what feats in particular put Atom above either of them in terms of intangibility.

I feel they are properly positioned. Either one is more than formidable for Barry.

This is not a Captain Atom vs Darkseid thread, you'll find that here if you want to debate it.

@the_man_with_questions: That what I said flash beats everyone except captain atom. Also flash has shown to phase people brain out while being intangible.

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@dredeuced@killemall@saren what do you guys think?

@houseshm:

You said Flash vs Captain Atom was a toss up when its not. Flash simply losses. And cool, Flash can phase people's brains out. Luck for Atom he doesn't need a body or can create a new one.

@the_man_with_questions:

1) Okay then, using that train of thought: Has Captain Atom ever survived the Omega Effect?

2) I'm referring to the level of threat, you're referring to ABC logic as a weak argument. With that logic, I guess Captain Atom could defeat Anti Monitor easily?

3) Okay? Nanosecond reaction time is not Femtosecond. Thats like comparing 100 years to 100,000 years. What speed feat does he even have outside of his convo with Barry during the nanosecond (sub nanosecond reaction time), that suggest he could even keep up with a morals off Barry?

4) So Atom defeats Barry by not being able to harm him. I stated that Barry would phase through Atom and/or BFR him before he could go offensive. You're implication is that Nathanial is as fast as Barry. Which you have no feats to substantiate the claim outside of his 1 conversation which hardly constitutes such a claim,

5) Good idea. I'm not saying Barry would win vs Cap Atom, nor that Darkseid stomps him, just playing advocate and ensuring this isn't a stomp or spite.

Flash can beat anyone now ?

Most likely stops at 4

Flash can always BFR atom in the speed force. Flash cant kill him though. Also Atom is too slow to hit flash and if flash is intangible he cant harm him.

@houseshm:

Atom can still manipulate Flash's molecules while he's intangible. And the same thing can be said for Atom if he turns intangible.

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1) I don't think the OE works that way. Since This isn't about Darkseid vs CA so we'll forget explaining the example and we'll move on.

2) Again, a lack of feats doesn't warrant and auto loss.

3) read it.. think about it...

4) Barry doesn't have to exterminate him, he has to knock him out or BFR him.

5) Not necessarily to anyone that follows those threads/ or reads.

Stops at Darkseid. Everyone before that gets speed force dumped and vibrated right through.

And why wouldn't any of that affect Darkseid

Because they're already in the speed force...

Doesn't stop him from vibrating him till he explodes

For one thing I can't recall an instance where Flash has intentionally made something explode by vibrating through it.

And even if he did, I doubt it would be on someone as durable as Darkseid who has AOE attacks that can one-shot Barry.

Also, didn't you say he stops at 3? Why are you arguing he'd beat Darkseid?

He's morals off here. All he needs to do is vibrate on a frequency that causes objects to explode. He actively uses another frequency. As he's morals off here, he won't have a problem going for the Lethal option.

Darkseid can't stop him telepathy while invisible.

@highaccuser:

How does he beat Atom?

@dondave:

He's morals off here. All he needs to do is vibrate on a frequency that causes objects to explode. He actively uses another frequency. As he's morals off here, he won't have a problem going for the Lethal option.

I'll have to look over my Flash issues, because I don't even think he can do that in the New 52. Again, Darkseid might be too durable for that.

Darkseid can't stop him telepathy while invisible.

Darkseid has telepathy? No I meant his AOE omega effect.

@the_man_with_questions said:

@highaccuser:

How does he beat Atom?

Speed force dump.

Stops at 4/5.

In the first issue of his series. After vibrating he accidentally blows a hole in a road and decides not to use that frequency again.

I meant Martian Manhunter has telepathy he can use while invisible.

@dondave:

In the first issue of his series. After vibrating he accidentally blows a hole in a road and decides not to use that frequency again.

He did that by accident while intending to phase a thug through a wall. I said he's never don so intentionally.

I meant Martian Manhunter has telepathy he can use while invisible.

Barry's faster to the draw and should BFR him before he can react.

@highaccuser:

Couldn't Atom just leave his body or create duplicates of himself?

Stops at 3

he stops at 3. he loses to supes pinky or martian's tp.

Stops at Doctor Manhattan.

Stops at 3 or 4 IMO