New-52 Batman vs Punisher

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Look at the fifth panel, look at the small distance between batman and joker, obviously batman ran to him and got close. Now look on the sixth panel how close the explosion was to the joker.
Look at the fifth panel, look at the small distance between batman and joker, obviously batman ran to him and got close. Now look on the sixth panel how close the explosion was to the joker.

@force_echo: You give me no choice and you have made me go to a respect thread. lol. I highly doubt that you have read that comic when you deny the fact that he tanked a missile even when there is evidence to the contrary.

He did tank the missile wether you like it or not. I remember that story arc so well that it isn't even funny.

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@force_echo: It went over 200 MPH, but batman dodges them. This man cut it in half.

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Batman stomps

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@darkhunter89: ..nice, you necro'd a ridiculous mismatch.

  • Punisher's equipment: 2 glocks (2 clips each), 3 grenades and 1 ak47 (2 clips).
  • Standard equipment for Batman.
  • They start 15 meters apart.
  • The fight takes place in a dark area in Gotham.

I mean..... really OP? Really?

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15 meters ?

Punisher kills Batman.

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Why would you limit Punisher like that against someone like Batman? Doesn't even make any sense at all.

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@i_like_swords: His jaw isn't. With the accuracy of the Punisher and his habit to tag speedsters it's a peace of cake.

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@darkhunter89: ..nice, you necro'd a ridiculous mismatch.

  • Punisher's equipment: 2 glocks (2 clips each), 3 grenades and 1 ak47 (2 clips).
  • Standard equipment for Batman.
  • They start 15 meters apart.
  • The fight takes place in a dark area in Gotham.

I mean..... really OP? Really?

lol

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Bruce every time handily

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@i_like_swords: His jaw isn't. With the accuracy of the Punisher and his habit to tag speedsters it's a peace of cake.

Batman still wins

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Punisher is no where on Batman level / Ubran, city, air, water or ground. tatical strength or durabily tech or even will or hope. Punishers loses .

I wont say a Stomp but its a bashing

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Batman stomps. I think Batman wins against Punisher in most cases, but don't give Punisher such ridiculously crappy equipment.

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I'd say Batman would win a fight, but what would really be interesting about the meeting of these two would be the talks they have about the ethics of killing.

Wayne: "If you kill them you're just as bad as they are."

Castle: "I know."

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Batman can probably make a dash towards Punisher while covering his face with his gloves and throwing a few distractions. As soon as he reaches his destination, Frank won't be able to hold Bruce off much longer.

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@realitywarper said:

@i_like_swords: His jaw isn't. With the accuracy of the Punisher and his habit to tag speedsters it's a peace of cake.

Batman still wins

The only thing that the Punisher wins is some visibility to make a clean shot.

With his actual gear it's easy.

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@realitywarper: Dark gotham and Batman the stealth expert? Oh, and wearing armor making him virtually immune to all of Punisher's armaments? Yeah, Punisher definitely wins here.

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@realitywarper: Dark gotham and Batman the stealth expert? Oh, and wearing armor making him virtually immune to all of Punisher's armaments? Yeah, Punisher definitely wins here.

A kevlar armor makes you virtually immune to anything.
His durability is finite and it's a volatile defense...

Even if he don't touch a vital point on the first shot Batman will be stun in the best case, then he just have to finish the job.

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@realitywarper: Yeah, Batman doesn't wear kevlar. Bullets bounce off his armor with literally no effect, and he can dodge them, or parry them with his gauntlets.

Anyways, he won't be planning to get shot, he'll be planning to vanish, get close, and kill Punisher. Or since it's no morals, throw an explosive batarang and smear him across the wall.

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#220  Edited By RealityWarper

@realitywarper: Yeah, Batman doesn't wear kevlar. Bullets bounce off his armor with literally no effect, and he can dodge them, or parry them with his gauntlets.

Anyways, he won't be planning to get shot, he'll be planning to vanish, get close, and kill Punisher. Or since it's no morals, throw an explosive batarang and smear him across the wall.

It has always been Kevlar and it does now too.

http://www.comicvine.com/bat-suit/4055-55745/

He will be shot in the face before he can run away :

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He tagged burnout who's a bullet timer AND a speedster

http://www.comicvine.com/burnout/4005-11587/

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Shot Spiderman

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And 2 times more.

If Franck wants to kill Bruce.
Bruce is dead.

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Batman still stomps.

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@realitywarper: That says that it started as kevlar, it is obviously not kevlar in the traditional sense, at least. Bullets bounce off with zero effect, meaning his mouth is his only target area. Plus, those scans are very impressive to be sure. But he simply won't shoot Batman in the mouth right away, some will get parried or dodged. Batman will disappear into the alleys and rooftops, ambush Frank, and kill him. In addition, his reflexes are better, meaning he can use batarangs to hit Punisher, stunning him, before being shot.

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I would love to see a recent scan of Punisher tagging Spiderman.

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#224  Edited By jashro44

@patrat18 said:

I would love to see a recent scan of Punisher tagging Spiderman.

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@realitywarper: That says that it started as kevlar, it is obviously not kevlar in the traditional sense, at least. Bullets bounce off with zero effect, meaning his mouth is his only target area. Plus, those scans are very impressive to be sure. But he simply won't shoot Batman in the mouth right away, some will get parried or dodged. Batman will disappear into the alleys and rooftops, ambush Frank, and kill him. In addition, his reflexes are better, meaning he can use batarangs to hit Punisher, stunning him, before being shot.

Actually not ^^

His reflexes are not better.

He is 15 meters away.

An AK-47 shoot through Kevlar like it's butter.

I picture you the scene with a video :

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The first to get a vital point wins the fight.

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@jashro44: Damn, lol.

@i_like_swords: His jaw isn't. With the accuracy of the Punisher and his habit to tag speedsters it's a peace of cake.

Frank has hit targets as small as Batman's exposed jaw before, and he has hit moving targets as fast or faster than Batman before - but he has never done both at the same time. Punisher shooting Batman's jaw while Batman is trying to avoid being shot would be an outlier compared to what Frank has shown in the past. Hitting a moving target that small is never going to happen for any kind of majority, if at all.

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@jashro44: This is not your war. Was Spidey trying to beat him or what?

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@realitywarper: Actually, they are. He can move before Frank gets a shot off. When has Frank ever bullettimed?

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@jashro44: Damn, lol.

@realitywarper said:

@i_like_swords: His jaw isn't. With the accuracy of the Punisher and his habit to tag speedsters it's a peace of cake.

Frank has hit targets as small as Batman's exposed jaw before, and he has hit moving targets as fast or faster than Batman before - but he has never done both at the same time. Punisher shooting Batman's jaw while Batman is trying to avoid being shot would be an outlier compared to what Frank has shown in the past. Hitting a moving target that small is never going to happen for any kind of majority, if at all.

I proved that I am right in the scans.
Look at them again.

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@realitywarper: Actually, they are. He can move before Frank gets a shot off. When has Frank ever bullettimed?

....
Look at the scans omfg.

Bulletimed....

Seriously.

I posted 3 scans.

Are you lazy ?

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@patrat18 said:

@jashro44: This is not your war. Was Spidey trying to beat him or what?

Yea he was trying to beat him. To be fair in issue one its made pretty clear that Peter could beat Frank pretty easily. Only reason he didn't was plot mostly.

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#233  Edited By patrat18

@jashro44: Sooo It was bad writing? Cuz...

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@realitywarper: Those are accuracy feats, very impressive ones at that. Not reflex feats. Batman can get out of line of sight using both his speed and stealth abilities before he gets shot at, and definitely before he gets shot in the mouth.

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#235  Edited By RealityWarper

@realitywarper: Those are accuracy feats, very impressive ones at that. Not reflex feats. Batman can get out of line of sight using both his speed and stealth abilities before he gets shot at, and definitely before he gets shot in the mouth.

They are at 15 meters from each others in plain sight.

Shooting bullets is faster than trowing Batrangs...

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@realitywarper: The Punishers rounds are doing nothing here..... This is New 52 Bats... The Punisher could pull all 3 grenade pins and literally hand em to bats-- all that does is minus the 3 grenades from The Punishers inventory.

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#237  Edited By RealityWarper

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@realitywarper: The Punishers rounds are doing nothing here..... This is New 52 Bats... The Punisher could pull all 3 grenade pins and literally hand em to bats-- all that does is minus the 3 grenades from The Punishers inventory.

It's a kevlar armor.

Batman dies.

EDIT :

In order to block AK-47 regular bullets, a ceramic plate must be insered to block them.
Batman use triple kevlar to keep some freedom in movements

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And Franck Castle is used to tag speedsters and other superhumans beings.

They are 15 meters away.

The Punisher can shoot faster and with more accuracy than Batman can throws his Batrangs.

Do the maths.

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@grim187 said:

@realitywarper: The Punishers rounds are doing nothing here..... This is New 52 Bats... The Punisher could pull all 3 grenade pins and literally hand em to bats-- all that does is minus the 3 grenades from The Punishers inventory.

It's a kevlar armor.

Batman dies.

@realitywarper Where do you get that the New 52 Bats is using Kevlar????????????

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#239  Edited By Grim187

@patrat18 said:
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Batman is bullet proof. The guy doesn't even try to dodge bullets in the new 52.

@realitywarper Since this is just your run of the mill Kevlar....

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@grim187: Yes.
There is only showings against 9 mm bullets. Except for the guy shooting his gloves, but the gloves are armored so it's different than shooting the suit....

The AK-47 is really more powerful than a regular gun.

I proved it in the video.

It goes through bulletproff vest like if it was butter.

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Look at the fifth panel, look at the small distance between batman and joker, obviously batman ran to him and got close. Now look on the sixth panel how close the explosion was to the joker.
Look at the fifth panel, look at the small distance between batman and joker, obviously batman ran to him and got close. Now look on the sixth panel how close the explosion was to the joker.

@realitywarper So you attempting to persuade me that Batman goes down to 7.62×39mm rounds but not this....

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@grim187: The Joker has no protection and is unharmed by the explosion so it not definitly a powerful one.

And yes Batman dies to 7.62×39mm rounds but not this....

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@grim187: The Joker has no protection and is unharmed by the explosion so it not definitly a powerful one.

And yes Batman dies to 7.62×39mm rounds but not this....

@realitywarper: You are being highly illogical... Them rounds aren't doing anything. You're trying to apply real life to comics, that's your rebuttals biggest flaw. There are multiple scans of heroes/villains using powerful attacks and not harming their surroundings. Your telling me that 7.62x39mm rounds are doing more dmg than a rocket launcher. If thats the case, why are they even using rocket launchers in comics? Aks do far more dmg.... You don't even acknowledge New 52 Batmans armor, you have repeatedly called it Kevlar lol.

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@grim187: Nope I am logical.
You are the one putting Batman in the podium pretending that nothing can pierce his suit.

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@realitywarper: I'm stating nothing that the OP gave him can pierce bats suit. You just told me that AK rounds put out more damage than a rocket launcher lmfao. This is a unbalanced stomp. I rather believe in the whole "acid pellets beat punisher" than your AK one, and that's only because its more logical lol.

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@grim187 said:

@realitywarper: I'm stating nothing that the OP gave him can pierce bats suit. You just told me that AK rounds put out more damage than a rocket launcher lmfao. This is a unbalanced stomp. I rather believe in the whole "acid pellets beat punisher" than your AK one, and that's only because its more logical lol.

I didn't say that. And a rocket launcher pierce tanks, you are the one saying that Batman's suit is more resistant thank a tank shell. ^^

Actually the scan you provided shows an explosion, if it was a rocket both the Joker and Batman would have died.

Nope.
The most logical issue is that Batman is shot by the Punisher and dies.

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@grim187 said:

@realitywarper: I'm stating nothing that the OP gave him can pierce bats suit. You just told me that AK rounds put out more damage than a rocket launcher lmfao. This is a unbalanced stomp. I rather believe in the whole "acid pellets beat punisher" than your AK one, and that's only because its more logical lol.

I didn't say that. And a rocket launcher pierce tanks, you are the one saying that Batman's suit is more resistant thank a tank shell. ^^

Actually the scan you provided shows an explosion, if it was a rocket both the Joker and Batman would have died.

Nope.

The most logical issue is that Batman is shot by the Punisher and dies.

@realitywarper: once again your applying real life to a comic lol. This is a 10/10 for bats, idk how you see that the punisher simply shoots batman and wins. I can't even tell if your being serious or just trolling. I refuse to debate with you anymore given that you don't even slightly show to acknowledge New 52 bats armor. Regardless of our debate, bats still wins by majority. You have completely failed to show otherwise.

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Batman WINS.

Batsuit capabilities:

Contact Lenses

  1. Computer Link (can acess remotely the Batcomputer)
  2. Computer analysis
  3. Transmitter/Receiver audio and video
  4. Zoom/Magnifying capabilities
  5. Facial recognition algorithms (including lipreading capabilities)
  6. Lie Detector
  7. Eletromagnetic spectrum vision (thermal,sonar,x-ray and night vision)

Cowl

  1. Special lock pick (Bruce is the only that can take it off)
  2. Extra Lenses (Eletromagnetic spectrum vision capabilities)
  3. Spectrum analysis
  4. Earpiece (which enhanced his auditory senses)
  5. Has recorded (and has stored) all of previous missions in Cowl Archives
  6. High Intensity Strobes in order to protect against Poison Ivy's pheromone control and reset the short term memory.
  7. Can connect and receive phones calls.

Gloves/Gauntlet

  1. Can take and run DNA/Chemical samples
  2. Can emit electric shocks (capable of frying nerves)
  3. Wrist laser
  4. High-velocity batrope
  5. Shoot out the forearm spikes
  6. Shoot out Bolas-like weapons
  7. Shoot out mini batrangs
  8. Shoot out micro smoke pellets,tranquilizer darts and anesthetic gas
  9. Can hack other computers

Body armor

  1. Bulletproof
  2. Fireproof
  3. Resistant to medium level shocks
  4. Resistant to concentrated acid
  5. Resistant to extreme pressures

Cape

  1. Fireproof
  2. Act as a glider

Utility Belt

  1. Stores gadgets
  2. EMP emitter
  3. Energy deflector
  4. Demagnetizer

Gadgets

  1. Batrangs (Sharp,Explosives,Acid,Cryogenic,Heat and Electric)
  2. Acid capsule
  3. Sonic disruptor
  4. Sonic grenades
  5. Micro propulsor
  6. Freeze grenades
  7. Absorbing capsules
  8. Magnets
  9. Speakers
  10. Pheromone Capsules
  11. Subsonic emitters
  12. Overheat device
  13. Laser cutter
  14. Heat based knuckles
  15. Tracking devices
  16. Grapplin gun
  17. Electrical sticks
  18. Sonic Gun
  19. Hard light gun
  20. Anti-fire/radiation foam gun
  21. Re-breather mask (automatically adjust to different oxygen levels to avoid toxicity)

Boots

  1. Enable to walk on walls
  2. Shoot out micro flashbangs
  3. Blades enable to walk on areas cover by ice.

See? Batman is bulletproof. He wins. And the all mighty Punisher loses.

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@darkhunter89:
The suit has a finite resistance against damage like every kevlar suit.
Even it is tripled it don't protect against an AK-47.

@grim187: You proved yourself that the batsuit only protects against 9 mm rounds.

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