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#1 Posted by franklinrichards86 (400 posts) - - Show Bio

out of the new 52 justice league who would win?

Royal rumble style fight between:

Cyborg

Superman

Greenlantern

Flash

Wonder Woman

Aquaman

I didnt include batman because i feel he is to outclassed, but you can still pick him if you want.

Everyone is bloodlusted, fight to the death.

Takes place in metropolis

#2 Edited by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash= he has femtosecond reaction time and can vibrated whole plane ..

Cyborg is featless

#3 Edited by franklinrichards86 (400 posts) - - Show Bio

none have any good feats yet, and i only mean the characters from the justice league comic, not their own comics

#4 Posted by Illuminatus (9489 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh, it's difficult to quantify, but probably Superman. Flash could also defeat them..

#5 Posted by Afro_Warrior (1120 posts) - - Show Bio

Based on what we've seen in JL so far. I'd say Flash with Supes an obvious second.

The finger flick won't work a second time and i can't see Superman tagging him otherwise.

#6 Posted by franklinrichards86 (400 posts) - - Show Bio

i think wonder woman would win, i know they are all inexperienced, but she is a warrior and probably has experience going for her along with a good skill set.

#7 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

No one is touching flash here.

#8 Posted by Illuminatus (9489 posts) - - Show Bio
@franklinrichards86 said:

i think wonder woman would win, i know they are all inexperienced, but she is a warrior and probably has experience going for her along with a good skill set.

But can she tag Flash?
#9 Posted by ThexX (1559 posts) - - Show Bio

Agreed Flash wins

#10 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus said:

@franklinrichards86 said:

i think wonder woman would win, i know they are all inexperienced, but she is a warrior and probably has experience going for her along with a good skill set.

But can she tag Flash?

Based on what i have seen, she is statue..

#11 Posted by Illuminatus (9489 posts) - - Show Bio
@super_psycho said:

@Illuminatus said:

@franklinrichards86 said:

i think wonder woman would win, i know they are all inexperienced, but she is a warrior and probably has experience going for her along with a good skill set.

But can she tag Flash?

Based on what i have seen, she is statue..

What?
#12 Posted by franklinrichards86 (400 posts) - - Show Bio

im looking through the comics right now for some of her speed feats (if any) its hard this early for definite feats, but it is fun to speculate.

#13 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus said:

@super_psycho said:

@Illuminatus said:

@franklinrichards86 said:

i think wonder woman would win, i know they are all inexperienced, but she is a warrior and probably has experience going for her along with a good skill set.

But can she tag Flash?

Based on what i have seen, she is statue..

What?

compared to flash :)

#14 Posted by Illuminatus (9489 posts) - - Show Bio
@super_psycho said:

@Illuminatus said:

@super_psycho said:

@Illuminatus said:

@franklinrichards86 said:

i think wonder woman would win, i know they are all inexperienced, but she is a warrior and probably has experience going for her along with a good skill set.

But can she tag Flash?

Based on what i have seen, she is statue..

What?

compared to flash :)

That's a bit extreme, but she is definitely slower than Flash.
#15 Posted by The Stegman (23009 posts) - - Show Bio

as someone above said...Flash with Superman coming in at an extremely close second

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#16 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus said:

@super_psycho said:

@Illuminatus said:

@super_psycho said:

@Illuminatus said:

@franklinrichards86 said:

i think wonder woman would win, i know they are all inexperienced, but she is a warrior and probably has experience going for her along with a good skill set.

But can she tag Flash?

Based on what i have seen, she is statue..

What?

compared to flash :)

That's a bit extreme, but she is definitely slower than Flash.

Actually wonder woman has done nothing,

Killed centaurs in issue 1

in issue #3 she punched off bunch of trees

that's it..

No speed feats yet

#17 Posted by Illuminatus (9489 posts) - - Show Bio
@super_psycho said:

@Illuminatus said:

@super_psycho said:

@Illuminatus said:

@super_psycho said:

@Illuminatus said:

@franklinrichards86 said:

i think wonder woman would win, i know they are all inexperienced, but she is a warrior and probably has experience going for her along with a good skill set.

But can she tag Flash?

Based on what i have seen, she is statue..

What?

compared to flash :)

That's a bit extreme, but she is definitely slower than Flash.

Actually wonder woman has done nothing,

Killed centaurs in issue 1

in issue #3 she punched off bunch of trees

that's it..

No speed feats yet

I realize that she has no speed feats yet, but we're only just beginning to see what Barry is capable of. For the moment, I think we should wait before saying Diana is a statue in comparison.
#18 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9427 posts) - - Show Bio
@super_psycho:  
When did Flash show femtosecond reaction time?
#19 Posted by Erik (31595 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman.

#20 Posted by franklinrichards86 (400 posts) - - Show Bio

WW is out, its superman for sure, he tanks GL' s constructs and he was able to hit the flash. Flash is second. Superman is #1.

#21 Edited by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus: I know she still has her powers.. she might be more powerful than before because now she is daughter of zeus..

Telepathy and illusions still dont work on her, i can see her beating aquaman..

If we wait till issue #8 then i m pretty sure she can give superman run for his money..

For now Flash stomps everyone

#22 Posted by Erik (31595 posts) - - Show Bio

I am not sure Flash has displayed anything in the new 52 that would indicate he can even hurt Superman.

#23 Edited by franklinrichards86 (400 posts) - - Show Bio

@Erik said:

I am not sure Flash has displayed anything in the new 52 that would indicate he can even hurt Superman.

agreed, and all superman had to do was flick the Flash and look what happened. Imagine a full punch.

#24 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000 said:

@super_psycho: When did Flash show femtosecond reaction time?
#25 Posted by Illuminatus (9489 posts) - - Show Bio
@Erik said:

I am not sure Flash has displayed anything in the new 52 that would indicate he can even hurt Superman.

NO HE INFINITE MASS PUNCHES SUPERM-oh wait....
#26 Posted by Erik (31595 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus said:

@Erik said:

I am not sure Flash has displayed anything in the new 52 that would indicate he can even hurt Superman.

NO HE INFINITE MASS PUNCHES SUPERM-oh wait....

LOL

#27 Posted by franklinrichards86 (400 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_psycho said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@super_psycho: When did Flash show femtosecond reaction time?

this isnt from the new Justice league

#28 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@franklinrichards86 said:

@super_psycho said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@super_psycho: When did Flash show femtosecond reaction time?

this isnt from the new Justice league

so what? this is still canon.

#29 Posted by franklinrichards86 (400 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_psycho said:

@franklinrichards86 said:

@super_psycho said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@super_psycho: When did Flash show femtosecond reaction time?

this isnt from the new Justice league

so what? this is still canon.

No. I said in the OP only the new justice league

#30 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@franklinrichards86 said:

@super_psycho said:

@franklinrichards86 said:

@super_psycho said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@super_psycho: When did Flash show femtosecond reaction time?

this isnt from the new Justice league

so what? this is still canon.

No. I said in the OP only the new justice league

then Hal wins, He has power of fanboy(Geoff Johns)

#31 Posted by TheBatman586 (6316 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash.

#32 Posted by HolySerpent (12454 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman wins,

#33 Posted by HolySerpent (12454 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman already prove he can tag flash

#34 Posted by Erik (31595 posts) - - Show Bio

@franklinrichards86 said:

@super_psycho said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@super_psycho: When did Flash show femtosecond reaction time?

this isnt from the new Justice league

But it is New 52. Not that it really matters because Flash was still shot... by a gun... with regular bullets...

#35 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@Erik said:

@franklinrichards86 said:

@super_psycho said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@super_psycho: When did Flash show femtosecond reaction time?

this isnt from the new Justice league

But it is New 52. Not that it really matters because Flash was still shot... by a gun... with regular bullets...

Here is the full scan,

#36 Posted by Erik (31595 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_psycho:

I think that ALL New 52 material should be allowed. But we have to consider that even though Flash is faster than Superman, Superman can still hit Flash. So far, I see no way that Flash can hurt Superman though.

#37 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@Erik said:

@super_psycho:

I think that ALL New 52 material should be allowed. But we have to consider that even though Flash is faster than Superman, Superman can still hit Flash. So far, I see no way that Flash can hurt Superman though.

in issue 3 .. it was said that flash's mind wasn't using speedforce like his body.. Justice league takes place 5 years in past so i guess flash's mind wasn't using speedforce like his body.

In issue 3 flash's mind used speedforce for first time and he was able to see everything in slow motion(everything was slowed down)..

#38 Posted by Erik (31595 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_psycho said:

@Erik said:

@super_psycho:

I think that ALL New 52 material should be allowed. But we have to consider that even though Flash is faster than Superman, Superman can still hit Flash. So far, I see no way that Flash can hurt Superman though.

in issue 3 .. it was said that flash's mind wasn't using speedforce like his body.. Justice league takes place 5 years in past so i guess flash's mind wasn't using speedforce like his body.

In issue 3 flash's mind used speedforce for first time and he was able to see everything in slow motion(everything was slowed down)..

Should not really matter too much. He is still inexperienced in its use and even still, it does not really mean much for a character that is almost as fast as he is. Plus it does not give us reason to think he has a way to beat Superman.

#39 Edited by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@Erik said:

@super_psycho said:

@Erik said:

@super_psycho:

I think that ALL New 52 material should be allowed. But we have to consider that even though Flash is faster than Superman, Superman can still hit Flash. So far, I see no way that Flash can hurt Superman though.

in issue 3 .. it was said that flash's mind wasn't using speedforce like his body.. Justice league takes place 5 years in past so i guess flash's mind wasn't using speedforce like his body.

In issue 3 flash's mind used speedforce for first time and he was able to see everything in slow motion(everything was slowed down)..

Should not really matter too much. He is still inexperienced in its use and even still, it does not really mean much for a character that is almost as fast as he is. Plus it does not give us reason to think he has a way to beat Superman.

Superman's isn't as fast as flash, flash saved many people from explosion, He can still vibrate superman.

Flash was falling from building and vibrated through ground Karaaaka booOOOoom , no more ground, Flash can vibrate and pull out superman's heart or simply knock him out..

#40 Posted by franklinrichards86 (400 posts) - - Show Bio

for this discussion i meant only the heroes from the new justice league comic, being they are all new and inexperienced, superman in my opinion has displayed the best stuff, potentially flash could beat him, but i think supes has got them now.

#41 Posted by Erik (31595 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_psycho said:

Superman's isn't as fast as flash, flash saved many people from explosion, He can still vibrate superman.

Flash was falling from building and vibrated through ground Karaaaka booOOOoom , no more ground, Flash can vibrate and pull out superman's heart or simply knock him out..

  • Probably good that I did not say he is as fast as Flash then eh?
  • Superman can save people from explosions as well.
  • Where was vibration shown to be an effective tactic?
  • Concrete is not the same as Kryptonian.
#42 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@Erik said:

@super_psycho said:

Superman's isn't as fast as flash, flash saved many people from explosion, He can still vibrate superman.

Flash was falling from building and vibrated through ground Karaaaka booOOOoom , no more ground, Flash can vibrate and pull out superman's heart or simply knock him out..

  • Probably good that I did not say he is as fast as Flash then eh?
  • Superman can save people from explosions as well.
  • Where was vibration shown to be an effective tactic?
  • Concrete is not the same as Kryptonian.

My mistake

The blast went off in micro-second and before it could reach those people standing there flash moved them away while Cap-atom contained the blast..

It is out of the character but flash can vibrate through solid then why not superman?

Flash isn't even strong enough to destroy concrete but the problem is he can vibrate through solid and he can become intangible can mess up with solid things at molecular level..

#43 Posted by Erik (31595 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_psycho:

  • Does not really matter micro-second.... pico-second. Superman can come close enough to tag Flash after so many hits. The better your Flash feats get, the better Superman's do by extension.
  • Not any solid. And to answer your question, Superman is much more dense than most other matter on Earth. Part of the reason he is so super.
  • Irrelevant. Concrete is still not Superman.
#44 Posted by Deadcool (6809 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_psycho said:

Actually wonder woman has done nothing,

Killed centaurs in issue 1

in issue #3 she punched off bunch of trees

that's it..

No speed feats yet

She stopped a lot of bullets in the issue 4...

#45 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@Erik said:

@super_psycho:

  • Does not really matter micro-second.... pico-second. Superman can come close enough to tag Flash after so many hits. The better your Flash feats get, the better Superman's do by extension.
  • Not any solid. And to answer your question, Superman is much more dense than most other matter on Earth. Part of the reason he is so super.
  • Irrelevant. Concrete is still not Superman.
  1. How? Justice league flash who doesn't even think as fast Flash from his own comics can blitz superman and throw him around..
  2. Flash can't even destroy concrete, he is not strong enough but he did by vibrating.. Yes superman is more durable but flash isn't going to hit him with his fists.. Flash becomes intangible so superman's density isn't going to save him.
#46 Posted by difficlus (10679 posts) - - Show Bio

Based on what was shown flash wins

@franklinrichards86 said:

WW is out, its superman for sure, he tanks GL' s constructs and he was able to hit the flash. Flash is second. Superman is #1.

superman got a lucky tag, sure let's ignore the scans of flash toying with superman and humiliating him while joking around and superman was pretty serious and count superman's 1 lucky shot out of flashes 15 or so. -______-

#47 Posted by Supreme Cosmic (764 posts) - - Show Bio

aw! No captain atom

#48 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deadcool said:

@super_psycho said:

Actually wonder woman has done nothing,

Killed centaurs in issue 1

in issue #3 she punched off bunch of trees

that's it..

No speed feats yet

She stopped a lot of bullets in the issue 4...

I know :)

#49 Posted by super_psycho (2792 posts) - - Show Bio

@Supreme Cosmic said:

aw! No captain atom

he would destroy everyone

#50 Posted by Erik (31595 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_psycho said:

@Erik said:

@super_psycho:

  • Does not really matter micro-second.... pico-second. Superman can come close enough to tag Flash after so many hits. The better your Flash feats get, the better Superman's do by extension.
  • Not any solid. And to answer your question, Superman is much more dense than most other matter on Earth. Part of the reason he is so super.
  • Irrelevant. Concrete is still not Superman.
  1. How? Justice league flash who doesn't even think as fast Flash from his own comics can blitz superman and throw him around..
  2. Flash can't even destroy concrete, he is not strong enough but he did by vibrating.. Yes superman is more durable but flash isn't going to hit him with his fists.. Flash becomes intangible so superman's density isn't going to save him.
  • How what? They are the same character. Justice League Flash is the same character as Flash Flash. He can blitz Superman but he has yet to cause him even the slightest bit of pain. On the flip side of that, Superman eventually hit Flash and obviously that hurt Flash.
  • Still irrelevant. I am not sure where you came up with the idea that concrete is the fulcrum by which all matter must be measured but I will clue you in on something... concrete aint dat durable.
  • I would love for you to prove that Flash is just going to spend a fight being intangible. Maybe some scan showing this would be fantastic. Such a thing was not even in character for Pre-52 Flash.