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@highaccuser: He went up against the SWAT team with gadgets and constant intel from Morgan Freeman.
Memory's hazy but I'm pretty sure he also wrecked all of them quickly when he was fighting them individually.
Bane showed more skill than Matt because he beat up no name security guards? Matt owned armed police officers while handcuffed and beat down a warehouse full of armed mobsters in at most 15 secs IIRC.
Bane did that far quicker than Matt ever beat a group of foes and did it with quick and effective motions as opposed to minute long exchanges Matt usually has. I feel like the police officers were surprised and he had quite a hard time doing that. When did he beat down a warehouse of mobsters? Much less in 15 seconds?
His track record against named fighters consists of him beating every single person he went up against excluding his first encounter with Kingpin which should be disregarded as nothing but a good showing for his pain tolerance for obvious reasons.
He also had trouble with Melvin Potter and Kingpin was repeatedly tagging him despite no evidence of skill and only had a strength advantage. Nobu beat him convincingly.
Stick and Nobu are definitely more skilled than anyone in the Nolan films, and Matt proved to be their superior. Hell, Bruce's track record against notable individuals consists of getting stomped by Bane in their first encounter, keeping up with him in their second encounter, and having trouble with Joker who showed no h2h skill whatsoever.
Stick and Nobu did nothing to warrant being as skilled as Batman. Batman was hindered when he first fought Bane and he also fought Ra's who showed considerable skill. I don't remember the Joker fight but Melvin Potter is a similar low showing.
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