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#1 Posted by #1ElderScrollsFan (1991 posts) - - Show Bio

First fight is in the DBZ universe 
 
The second fight is in the Matrix  
 
Who wins ? 
 
 
 

 

Vs. 
 
 
 

 
#2 Edited by Hellos (8914 posts) - - Show Bio

At best neo tosses some electricity at goku in the DBZU. Ofcourse Goku wrecks him there. 
 
Neo can rip apart Goku in the matrix, he won't be any stronger than any other muscle brute.
#3 Posted by DC_Marvel_1000 (12062 posts) - - Show Bio

first fight goku 
second fight neo
#4 Posted by Starrk (549 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku

#5 Posted by DC_Marvel_1000 (12062 posts) - - Show Bio
@Starrk said:
"Goku "


fight one yea fight two nope
#6 Posted by JThree47693 (2538 posts) - - Show Bio
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
"first fight goku second fight neo "

What he said
#7 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2225 posts) - - Show Bio

You know, Goku could probably recognize that he was in the Matrix.  He's demonstrated some crazy ass perceptive skills in the series, especially when it comes to recognizing that something is off in his environment.  He could probably warp the Matrix to get some of his abilities back while inside, or realize that he's jacked in the Matrix and power up like crazy to overload the systems by giving it more energy than it can process.
 
So Goku could win the second either through a hand to hand fight or a technical BFR.

#8 Posted by Sleuth (2664 posts) - - Show Bio
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" first fight goku second fight neo "
#9 Edited by DaMan (1283 posts) - - Show Bio

Neo loses both fights. Then again, I haven't watched every last bit of the 3rd movie so I wouldn't know.
#10 Posted by Man of Lengend (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

GOKU WINS
Goku vs Superman
#11 Posted by mrbobdobalina (1167 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku wins in DBZ verse 
Neo wins in the Matrix

#12 Posted by Warcry80 (2151 posts) - - Show Bio


Goku's body well his genetics, his body will remember how strong he is no matter what universe he's in. Muscle memory, is key. The problem you have is now your having this happen. 
 
You took Neo an average human who had to think himself powerful in the matrix, and he become near Godlike there, 
But now your taking Goku, a very powerful being in the real world and putting him in a place where his powers are only gonna be amped. You will basically make him a God. 
 
Goku stomps!

 
OMG! this is horrible!! Imagine what would happen if you hooked a fully aware Super Perfect Cell or Super Android 17 up to the matrix?

#13 Posted by Freefa11 (2420 posts) - - Show Bio

I was prepared to agree with everyone else that Goku would lose in the Matrix. However, something just occurred to me; when people are put into the Matrix, the idea is that they perceive themselves as normal humans, to make everything consistent and believable to them. However, "normal" for Goku is still planet-buster, so if it drops him in there and he still perceives himself as "normal," that still means SS planet-buster stuff. Alternately, if Goku were put into the matrix and he were only as powerful as any other human in the matrix, THAT would tip him off that something was seriously wrong, which may allow him to begin affecting it the way hackers do.

#14 Posted by Prince of Saiyans (2072 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku uses an expanding kiai wave that destroys the matrix in most convincing fashion. 

#15 Posted by mrbobdobalina (1167 posts) - - Show Bio
@Prince of Saiyans said:
" Goku uses an expanding kiai wave that destroys the matrix in most convincing fashion.  "
No. Goku wouldn't destroy anything. That's putting him out of character.
#16 Posted by Prince of Saiyans (2072 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrbobdobalina:  
Thats a pretty pathetic excuse.  
By your logic Neo wouldn't attack Goku because Goku is not a matrix agent, therefore Neo attacking him would be out of character.  
#17 Posted by mrbobdobalina (1167 posts) - - Show Bio
@Prince of Saiyans said:
" @mrbobdobalina:  Thats a pretty pathetic excuse.  By your logic Neo wouldn't attack Goku because Goku is not a matrix agent, therefore Neo attacking him would be out of character.   "
This is a fight. You seem to be forgetting that. It would be out of character, but why would Goku be in the Matrix Universe in the first place? He doesn't belong there. But, this is a fight. It doesn't matter if Goku isn't an agent. It's a fight, and so Neo will fight Goku and vice verse.  
 
What you said Goku would do is not in his character, and therefore he doesn't do it.
#18 Posted by Prince of Saiyans (2072 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrbobdobalina: Goku uses ki in his fights. A ki blast will kill neo, (and could destroy the matrix)  
Goku wins. 
Neo has speed less than of kid goku, he would not be able to get a hit on FTL Goku. 
#19 Edited by darkrein (353 posts) - - Show Bio
@Prince of Saiyans: I think what Mrbob was saying is that, it doesn't seem to be in goku's nature to unleash a ki wave that could effectively destroy the matrix, killing almost every last human being on planet earth.
#20 Posted by Prince of Saiyans (2072 posts) - - Show Bio
@darkrein: Ok, but a single punch would end Neo. 
 
And Goku's speed is to much: 
 

Able to escape paralyzing light explosion the instant it explodes. 
#21 Posted by mrbobdobalina (1167 posts) - - Show Bio
@darkrein said:
" @Prince of Saiyans: I think what Mrbob was saying is that, it doesn't seem to be in goku's nature to unleash a ki wave that could effectively destroy the matrix, killing almost every last human being on planet earth. "
Exactly. 
 
@Prince of Saiyans said:
" @mrbobdobalina: Goku uses ki in his fights. A ki blast will kill neo, (and could destroy the matrix)  Goku wins. Neo has speed less than of kid goku, he would not be able to get a hit on FTL Goku.  "
You saying Neo will not be able to hit Goku made me LOL.
#22 Posted by Prince of Saiyans (2072 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrbobdobalina: Then you must be a deranged fan boy or something because Neo can't hurt Kid Goku.  
 
Read DB.
#23 Posted by mrbobdobalina (1167 posts) - - Show Bio
@Prince of Saiyans said:
" @mrbobdobalina: Then you must be a deranged fan boy or something because Neo can't hurt Kid Goku.   Read DB. "
Funny how DB feats are a lot more impressive than DBZ feats. 
 
And speaking of fanboys..... DBZ in particular.....
#24 Posted by Prince of Saiyans (2072 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrbobdobalina: Neo can tag and hurt goku?
#25 Posted by mrbobdobalina (1167 posts) - - Show Bio
@Prince of Saiyans said:
" @mrbobdobalina: Neo can tag and hurt goku? "
In his Universe? In the Matrix? Of course. In the DBZ Universe? No.
#26 Edited by FLCL1 (9580 posts) - - Show Bio
@Prince of Saiyans said:

" @mrbobdobalina:  Thats a pretty pathetic excuse.  By your logic Neo wouldn't attack Goku because Goku is not a matrix agent, therefore Neo attacking him would be out of character.   "

neo has fought people that isnt an agent
#27 Edited by Prince of Saiyans (2072 posts) - - Show Bio
@FLCL1: He has never fought anyone with the power of Goku
#28 Edited by mrbobdobalina (1167 posts) - - Show Bio
@Prince of Saiyans said:

" @FLCL1: He has never fought anyone with the power of Goku..  "

Let's see...... 
 
The Matrix Universe. Agent Smith, the virus who was "destroying" the entire Matrix Universe. 
 
Goku, max canon power level a planet buster. 
 
Yeah, I believe he has.
#29 Edited by FLCL1 (9580 posts) - - Show Bio
@Prince of Saiyans said:

" @FLCL1: He has never fought anyone with the power of Goku.  "

yes he has he has fought agent smith in the matrix who has almost complete control of it aka god of the matrix
he destroys him in the matrix your the only one that cant get it through his head...
#30 Posted by Prince of Saiyans (2072 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrbobdobalina: Then you believe wrong on all counts. Agent smith is a joke and Goku could planet bust at the saiyan or namek saga. 
 
Neo can not take an island busting attack shoved down his face, never mind planet or beyond.  
Neo could not get a single hit in on goku, ever. Goku's speed is many orders greater than Neo's. 
#31 Posted by karrob (4280 posts) - - Show Bio
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" first fight goku second fight neo "
#32 Edited by Prince of Saiyans (2072 posts) - - Show Bio
@FLCL1 said:

" @Prince of Saiyans said:

" @FLCL1: He has never fought anyone with the power of Goku.  "
yes he has he has fought agent smith in the matrix who has almost complete control of it aka god of the matrix he destroys him in the matrix your the only one that cant get it through his head... "
Watch the language, we wouldn't want ND to ban you again would we? 
Agent smith took over a computer program, he cannot destroy planets or anything. 
#33 Posted by mrbobdobalina (1167 posts) - - Show Bio
@Prince of Saiyans said:
" @mrbobdobalina: Then you believe wrong on all counts. Agent smith is a joke and Goku could planet bust at the saiyan or namek saga.  Neo can not take an island busting attack shoved down his face, never mind planet or beyond.  Neo could not get a single hit in on goku, ever. Goku's speed is many orders greater than Neo's.  "
As I said before, and I will quote myself........
 
@mrbobdobalina said:
And speaking of fanboys..... DBZ in particular..... "
#34 Posted by Prince of Saiyans (2072 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrbobdobalina: Quote yourself all you want. 
 
Show Neo ever having speed near that of Goku's or stop going on about nothing. 
#35 Posted by mrbobdobalina (1167 posts) - - Show Bio
@Prince of Saiyans said:
" @mrbobdobalina: Quote yourself all you want.  Show Neo ever having speed near that of Goku's or stop going on about nothing.  "
Alright. Give me a sec. I'm still laughing about you saying Goku is FTL. He has less impressive speed feats in DBZ than he does in DB. Arguablly, he could be FTL in DB. In DBZ, based on one scan saying "super-speed", that doesn't mean he is FTL. LOL.
#36 Posted by Louisiana Bob (912 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrbobdobalina said:
" @Prince of Saiyans said:
" @mrbobdobalina: Then you must be a deranged fan boy or something because Neo can't hurt Kid Goku.   Read DB. "
Funny how DB feats are a lot more impressive than DBZ feats.  And speaking of fanboys..... DBZ in particular..... "
XD no they arent 
#37 Posted by Louisiana Bob (912 posts) - - Show Bio
@Freefa11 said:
" I was prepared to agree with everyone else that Goku would lose in the Matrix. However, something just occurred to me; when people are put into the Matrix, the idea is that they perceive themselves as normal humans, to make everything consistent and believable to them. However, "normal" for Goku is still planet-buster,  "
the only reason why i came into this thread was to say..basically all of that.
#38 Posted by mrbobdobalina (1167 posts) - - Show Bio
@Prince of Saiyans said:
" @mrbobdobalina: Quote yourself all you want.  Show Neo ever having speed near that of Goku's or stop going on about nothing.  "
Let's see. With Neo's speed, as shown here, he can easily tag Goku. 
 
  
#39 Edited by Prince of Saiyans (2072 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrbobdobalina said:

" @Prince of Saiyans said:

" @mrbobdobalina: Quote yourself all you want.  Show Neo ever having speed near that of Goku's or stop going on about nothing.  "

Let's see. With Neo's speed, as shown here, he can easily tag Goku. 
 
  
"


Able to escape paralyzing light explosion the instant it explode     
 
Neo is a statue to goku.
#40 Posted by mrbobdobalina (1167 posts) - - Show Bio
@Louisiana Bob said:
" @mrbobdobalina said:
" @Prince of Saiyans said:
" @mrbobdobalina: Then you must be a deranged fan boy or something because Neo can't hurt Kid Goku.   Read DB. "
Funny how DB feats are a lot more impressive than DBZ feats.  And speaking of fanboys..... DBZ in particular..... "
XD no they arent  "
Here comes the DBZ fanboy cavalry.
#41 Posted by mrbobdobalina (1167 posts) - - Show Bio
@Prince of Saiyans said:
" @mrbobdobalina said:

" @Prince of Saiyans said:

" @mrbobdobalina: Quote yourself all you want.  Show Neo ever having speed near that of Goku's or stop going on about nothing.  "

Let's see. With Neo's speed, as shown here, he can easily tag Goku. 
 
  
"

Able to escape paralyzing light explosion the instant it explode      Neo is a statue to goku. "
LOL! Man, you DBZ fanboys are funny.
#42 Posted by Prince of Saiyans (2072 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrbobdobalina said:
" @Louisiana Bob said:
" @mrbobdobalina said:
" @Prince of Saiyans said:
" @mrbobdobalina: Then you must be a deranged fan boy or something because Neo can't hurt Kid Goku.   Read DB. "
Funny how DB feats are a lot more impressive than DBZ feats.  And speaking of fanboys..... DBZ in particular..... "
XD no they arent  "
Here comes the DBZ fanboy cavalry. "
And what does that make you? 
The leader of the moron brigade?
#43 Posted by mrbobdobalina (1167 posts) - - Show Bio
@Prince of Saiyans said:
" @mrbobdobalina said:
" @Louisiana Bob said:
" @mrbobdobalina said:
" @Prince of Saiyans said:
" @mrbobdobalina: Then you must be a deranged fan boy or something because Neo can't hurt Kid Goku.   Read DB. "
Funny how DB feats are a lot more impressive than DBZ feats.  And speaking of fanboys..... DBZ in particular..... "
XD no they arent  "
Here comes the DBZ fanboy cavalry. "
And what does that make you? The leader of the moron brigade? "
Flagged. You are now just trying to start a flame war. This conversation has ended. Keep on ranting, you and Spike together, about "OMFG DBZ PWNS ALL!!!" and keep posting stupid demotivational pictures too each other. No one is going to see them other than you two.
#44 Posted by Prince of Saiyans (2072 posts) - - Show Bio
@Prince of Saiyans said:

" @mrbobdobalina said:

" @Prince of Saiyans said:

" @mrbobdobalina: Quote yourself all you want.  Show Neo ever having speed near that of Goku's or stop going on about nothing.  "

Let's see. With Neo's speed, as shown here, he can easily tag Goku. 
 
  
"

Able to escape paralyzing light explosion the instant it explode      Neo is a statue to goku. "
 Via speed uses 8 TANGIBLE ARMS



Goku creates multiple Zanzo-afterimages, with his speed.

Goku's vanishing speed



Goku dodges lasers


Uses Nyiobo to deflect bullets

Goku easily dodges bullets.
Goku learns to surpass lightning speed


 y  
 


 




#45 Posted by Prince of Saiyans (2072 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrbobdobalina said:
" @Prince of Saiyans said:
" @mrbobdobalina said:
" @Louisiana Bob said:
" @mrbobdobalina said:
" @Prince of Saiyans said:
" @mrbobdobalina: Then you must be a deranged fan boy or something because Neo can't hurt Kid Goku.   Read DB. "
Funny how DB feats are a lot more impressive than DBZ feats.  And speaking of fanboys..... DBZ in particular..... "
XD no they arent  "
Here comes the DBZ fanboy cavalry. "
And what does that make you? The leader of the moron brigade? "
Flagged. You are now just trying to start a flame war. This conversation has ended. Keep on ranting, you and Spike together, about "OMFG DBZ PWNS ALL!!!" and keep posting stupid demotivational pictures too each other. No one is going to see them other than you two. "
No, you started with the insulting. 
Goku's stats>>>>>>Neo's. 
Goku beats him in a fight. 
If Goku can keep his powers in the matrix then he wins. 
If your trying to say he becomes a normal human in the matrix then thats really not Goku now is it? Thats Goku with none of his attributes.  
And Goku would have the power to destroy the matrix, saying "ZOMG NOT IN TEH CHaracTer" is meaningless. 
#46 Posted by Louisiana Bob (912 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrbobdobalina: lol no neo does not have the speed to tag goku..i'm sorry posting a vid of cars flipping over as neo flies is suppose to show what...goku/vegetas kid loops the planet several times in a second, and it's literally child's play.. never mind pan doing it when she was 4. neo aint got the speed to touch goku..sorry
 
also goku has no power in the matrix because a certain someone says so..true story 
 
i don't even know why these matrix threads keep getting made..it always ends the same way....in the matrix neo wins..outside he loses..as if that was ever the point of the thread..it's always a cop out with neo fans trying to claim he's a god in the matrix when he has shown the complete and total opposite of that.
#47 Edited by Louisiana Bob (912 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrbobdobalina said:

" @Louisiana Bob said:

" @mrbobdobalina said:
" @Prince of Saiyans said:
" @mrbobdobalina: Then you must be a deranged fan boy or something because Neo can't hurt Kid Goku.   Read DB. "
Funny how DB feats are a lot more impressive than DBZ feats.  And speaking of fanboys..... DBZ in particular..... "
XD no they arent  "
Here comes the DBZ fanboy cavalry. "
i'm a fanboy because you dont know what you're talking about...awesome. I find it hilarious that you keep flaming people calling them trolls fanboys etc etc and then actually threaten to flag others...dont worry the mods will be here soon, i've flagged you enough times. When you're response to a scan of goku escaping an explosion after it already went off is omg dbz fanboys har har har..and then next 4 or 5 post after it is OMG DBZ sucks, omg dbz fans suck omg i like saying omg..then you really have no business telling anyone else they're starting a flame war...i'm gonna head out and let the mods take care of this mess...but you u have fun.
#48 Posted by difficlus (10679 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku both rounds, neo can be injured even in the matrix...

#49 Edited by Louisiana Bob (912 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus said:

" Goku both rounds, neo can be injured even in the matrix... "

beat nearly to death...cut by a sword...having to fly away from explosions...but hey don't let facts like those try and convince 2 certain users that neo is not a god. Also, saying neo fought agent smith (who kicked neos ass by the way) and saying that by Smiths taking over the matrix by spreading like a virus on planet earth = universal threat and thus he's on gokus level....XD good god..and these 2 keep throwing out the fanboy word..i'm ranting..ranting bad. I'm gonna go watch gilmore girls on dvd. Season 2 baby
#50 Posted by FLCL1 (9580 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus said:
" Goku both rounds, neo can be injured even in the matrix... "
goku can also be injured in the matrix...