#1 Edited by Superparody (2011 posts) - - Show Bio





DC's death VS the lover of marvels Death how wins? 
1)with prep 3 days 
2)no prep
 

 
#2 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

Why don't we go with Nekron for the curbstomp....

#3 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio

Not enough is known about Nekron.  I do believe CA has defeated him in the past.  But obviously alot has changed since then. Can't really comment till BN finish's!
#4 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
@Push said:
" Not enough is known about Nekron.  I do believe CA has defeated him in the past.  But obviously alot has changed since then. Can't really comment till BN finish's! "
Captain Atom was creating universes at the time. Besides, the sole fact he was able to manipulate the Anti-Monitor would put him well above Thanos.
#5 Posted by Dreadmaster (16778 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:
" @Push said:
" Not enough is known about Nekron.  I do believe CA has defeated him in the past.  But obviously alot has changed since then. Can't really comment till BN finish's! "
Captain Atom was creating universes at the time. Besides, the sole fact he was able to manipulate the Anti-Monitor would put him well above Thanos. "

If we are talking about the near-dead SCW Anti-Moniter that Nekron manipulated then yeah that puts him way ahead of Thanos. xP 
 
I can't call this one since i haven't seen Nekron really do anything yet.
#6 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:
" @Push said:
" Not enough is known about Nekron.  I do believe CA has defeated him in the past.  But obviously alot has changed since then. Can't really comment till BN finish's! "
Captain Atom was creating universes at the time. Besides, the sole fact he was able to manipulate the Anti-Monitor would put him well above Thanos. "
Thanos lobotomized Kosmos. Beat that. :P
 
 
But seriously, I haven't read Blackest Night at all to judge.
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#7 Posted by Dreadmaster (16778 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
"But seriously, I haven't read Blackest Night at all to judge. "
Nekron only appeared in BN: 4 on the last page. xP
#8 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
" Thanos lobotomized Kosmos. Beat that. :P "
Kosmos took Thanos out with a city block wide blast. I just did :P
#9 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:
" @Push said:
" Not enough is known about Nekron.  I do believe CA has defeated him in the past.  But obviously alot has changed since then. Can't really comment till BN finish's! "
Captain Atom was creating universes at the time. Besides, the sole fact he was able to manipulate the Anti-Monitor would put him well above Thanos. "

He was creating universes in the quantam field, I believe, in himself, not in the DCU! That's been misconstrewed! And the AM just had his ass handed to him by SBP and all the rest, after Prime tossed his almost carcass into space, Nekron didn't do anything to the AM outside of encasing his very weakend essence into the BL powerbattery! Again, we really need to see the next few issues and the ending to this story before we can get a real gauge on him.
#10 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" Thanos lobotomized Kosmos. Beat that. :P "
Kosmos took Thanos out with a city block wide blast. I just did :P "
LOL.  

 @dreadmaster said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

"But seriously, I haven't read Blackest Night at all to judge. "
Nekron only appeared in BN: 4 on the last page. xP "
All the better reason for us not to give an estimation.
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#11 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
@Push said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" @Push said:
" Not enough is known about Nekron.  I do believe CA has defeated him in the past.  But obviously alot has changed since then. Can't really comment till BN finish's! "
Captain Atom was creating universes at the time. Besides, the sole fact he was able to manipulate the Anti-Monitor would put him well above Thanos. "
He was creating universes in the quantam field, I believe, in himself, not in the DCU! That's been misconstrewed! And the AM just had his ass handed to him by SBP and all the rest, after Prime tossed his almost carcass into space, Nekron didn't do anything to the AM outside of encasing his very weakend essence into the BL powerbattery! Again, we really need to see the next few issues and the ending to this story before we can get a real gauge on him. "
You want another misconception? AM was not beaten by Prime.
 
Captain Atom was forced to tap into the entirety of the quantum field to beat Nekron. In that same issue Nekron was portrayed as equal to Black Racer and Death of the Endless. Nekron was capable of channeling enough force through a ring to override the Spectre force. Nekron was capable of empowering Scar to overpower all the other guardians. He has appeared for only one page, and he still has enough feats to make him a Monitor level entity.
#12 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:
"  In that same issue Nekron was portrayed as equal to Black Racer and Death of the Endless."
Really..? 
 

 
I hate Johns now.
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#13 Posted by Dreadmaster (16778 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
" @AtPhantom said:
"  In that same issue Nekron was portrayed as equal to Black Racer and Death of the Endless."
Really..? 
 

 
I hate Johns now. "

I don't think Johns wrote the issue he's talking about. >.>
#14 Posted by Kael (63 posts) - - Show Bio

Even Beyond a Monitos Level Entity...
Nekron Would Kick Thanos Ass...
He´s stronge enought to do that.
He´s responsable for the blackest night.
The Black Ring, The dead superheroes revived.
Besides, there were other issues where he was strong enough to control and make Crona his bitch...

#15 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
" @AtPhantom said:
"  In that same issue Nekron was portrayed as equal to Black Racer and Death of the Endless."
Really..? "
LMFAO That was fifteen years ago in Captain Atom Morph. Johns wasn't writing it.
#16 Edited by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @AtPhantom said:
"  In that same issue Nekron was portrayed as equal to Black Racer and Death of the Endless."
Really..? "
LMFAO That was fifteen years ago in Captain Atom Morph. Johns wasn't writing it. "
Ah, I misread it. I thought Nekron in his current power set was a newer conception. Didn't know he had feats of that magnitude in the past.
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#17 Posted by Dreadmaster (16778 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
"@AtPhantom said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @AtPhantom said:
"  In that same issue Nekron was portrayed as equal to Black Racer and Death of the Endless."
Really..? "
LMFAO That was fifteen years ago in Captain Atom Morph. Johns wasn't writing it. "
Ah, I misread it. I thought Nekron in his current power set was a newer conception. Didn't know he had feats of that magnitude in the past. "

Same here. >_>
#18 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
" Ah, I misread it. I thought Nekron in his current power set was a newer conception. Didn't know he had feats in that magnitude in the past. "
He was like that from inception. in his first appearance he supposedly was lord of all the dead. Kinda like Death in Marvel
 
The issue of Captain atom was controversial. The writer put all three death entities together claiming each on is an aspect of Death. Black Racer was death as inevitability, Endless was death as a merciful release, while Nekron was death as the ultimate opponent. Neil Gaiman disputed that claiming that his Death is the ultimate embodiment of Death.
#19 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" Ah, I misread it. I thought Nekron in his current power set was a newer conception. Didn't know he had feats in that magnitude in the past. "
He was like that from inception. in his first appearance he supposedly was lord of all the dead. Kinda like Death in Marvel The issue of Captain atom was controversial. The writer put all three death entities together claiming each on is an aspect of Death. Black Racer was death as inevitability, Endless was death as a merciful release, while Nekron was death as the ultimate opponent. Neil Gaiman disputed that claiming that his Death is the ultimate embodiment of Death. "
And that is how it should be.
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#20 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:
" @Push said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" @Push said:
" Not enough is known about Nekron.  I do believe CA has defeated him in the past.  But obviously alot has changed since then. Can't really comment till BN finish's! "
Captain Atom was creating universes at the time. Besides, the sole fact he was able to manipulate the Anti-Monitor would put him well above Thanos. "
He was creating universes in the quantam field, I believe, in himself, not in the DCU! That's been misconstrewed! And the AM just had his ass handed to him by SBP and all the rest, after Prime tossed his almost carcass into space, Nekron didn't do anything to the AM outside of encasing his very weakend essence into the BL powerbattery! Again, we really need to see the next few issues and the ending to this story before we can get a real gauge on him. "
You want another misconception? AM was not beaten by Prime.  Captain Atom was forced to tap into the entirety of the quantum field to beat Nekron. In that same issue Nekron was portrayed as equal to Black Racer and Death of the Endless. Nekron was capable of channeling enough force through a ring to override the Spectre force. Nekron was capable of empowering Scar to overpower all the other guardians. He has appeared for only one page, and he still has enough feats to make him a Monitor level entity. "
That I know, and I don't believe I said he was! Not sure I ever recall him being portrayed on par with Death of the Endless? Not dissagreeing with you on how powerfull Nekron is, just need to see how he fairs by the end of the series and what his feats will be in BN.
#21 Posted by Johnny_Nemesis (2170 posts) - - Show Bio

Nekron blinks
Thanos dies

#22 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
@Johnny_Nemesis said:
"Nekron blinks Thanos dies "


you really believe that?
#23 Posted by Johnny_Nemesis (2170 posts) - - Show Bio
@Push said:
" @Johnny_Nemesis said:
"Nekron blinks Thanos dies "
you really believe that? "
Maaaaaybee...really though we need to see how powerful Nek is in Blackest Night
#24 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
@Johnny_Nemesis said:
" @Push said:
" @Johnny_Nemesis said:
"Nekron blinks Thanos dies "
you really believe that? "
Maaaaaybee...really though we need to see how powerful Nek is in Blackest Night "


Wholeheartedly agreed!
#25 Posted by King Saturn (224210 posts) - - Show Bio

I am interested to see how powerful Nekron is in current years... though back in the day... he did give the Classic Captain Atom ( aka Mr. Universe Buster ) a good run

BTW - Do Any of You Guys Know if your Local Comic Book Store is having Massive Sales on Black Friday ?

#26 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio
@Push said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" @Push said:
" Not enough is known about Nekron.  I do believe CA has defeated him in the past.  But obviously alot has changed since then. Can't really comment till BN finish's! "
Captain Atom was creating universes at the time. Besides, the sole fact he was able to manipulate the Anti-Monitor would put him well above Thanos. "
He was creating universes in the quantam field, I believe, in himself, not in the DCU! That's been misconstrewed! And the AM just had his ass handed to him by SBP and all the rest, after Prime tossed his almost carcass into space, Nekron didn't do anything to the AM outside of encasing his very weakend essence into the BL powerbattery! Again, we really need to see the next few issues and the ending to this story before we can get a real gauge on him. "
AM was near dead, Nekron was dead. Died in Reign of Hell. Depowered and decapitated by Lord Satanus. So pretty good for a dead guy. Nekron also seems more powerful in underworld unleased
#27 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper said:
" AM was near dead, Nekron was dead. Died in Reign of Hell. Depowered and decapitated by Lord Satanus. So pretty good for a dead guy. Nekron also seems more powerful in underworld unleased "
Um, V, Nekron and Neron are not the same guy...
#28 Edited by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:

" @vuviper said:

" AM was near dead, Nekron was dead. Died in Reign of Hell. Depowered and decapitated by Lord Satanus. So pretty good for a dead guy. Nekron also seems more powerful in underworld unleased "
Um, V, Nekron and Neron are not the same guy... "
LOL I'm confused Thanks Phantom
#29 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

No prob : )
 
I remember debating an entire thread for Elongated man before figuring out I was thinking of Plastic man instead :P

#30 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:
" No prob : )  I remember debating an entire thread for Elongated man before figuring out I was thinking of Plastic man instead :P "
Hm.. I wonder if Neron will be a black lantern...
#31 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think he's really dead. Satanus depowered and decapitated him, and he was still capable of some rudimentary speech. I don't think Neron actually can die.

#32 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" No prob : )  I remember debating an entire thread for Elongated man before figuring out I was thinking of Plastic man instead :P "
Hm.. I wonder if Neron will be a black lantern... "
 
I seriously doubt it! He's a lord of hell and doubt he's dead for long.  I don't see him being a BL and I don't think he really needs a body?? 

@AtPhantom said:
" @vuviper said:
" AM was near dead, Nekron was dead. Died in Reign of Hell. Depowered and decapitated by Lord Satanus. So pretty good for a dead guy. Nekron also seems more powerful in underworld unleased "
Um, V, Nekron and Neron are not the same guy... "
Wow, thanx for cleaing that up, was about to get my back issues lol Was thinking, since when was Nekron in Underworld Unleased and Regn in Hell??
#33 Posted by vuviper (5531 posts) - - Show Bio
@Push: Yeah sorry for the confusion, that was my bad
#34 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn said:
"

I am interested to see how powerful Nekron is in current years... though back in the day... he did give the Classic Captain Atom ( aka Mr. Universe Buster ) a good run

BTW - Do Any of You Guys Know if your Local Comic Book Store is having Massive Sales on Black Friday ?

"

Never known CA to bust up any universes in my time!  Outside of Wildstorm CA who merged with Voids powers, I believe?
#35 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper said:
" @Push: Yeah sorry for the confusion, that was my bad "


All good :-) Happens to all of us from time to time ;-)  I'm not immune to getting mixed up myself!
#36 Posted by King Saturn (224210 posts) - - Show Bio
@Push said:
" @King Saturn said:
"

I am interested to see how powerful Nekron is in current years... though back in the day... he did give the Classic Captain Atom ( aka Mr. Universe Buster ) a good run

BTW - Do Any of You Guys Know if your Local Comic Book Store is having Massive Sales on Black Friday ?

"
Never known CA to bust up any universes in my time!  Outside of Wildstorm CA who merged with Voids powers, I believe? "
Classic Captain Atom created and devoured a Universe into himself... 
#37 Posted by reaper2923 (2778 posts) - - Show Bio

Who is Nekron, I mean I read Blackest Night, also did Indigo kill a Black Lantern?

#38 Posted by Klandicar (2471 posts) - - Show Bio
@reaper2923 said:
" Who is Nekron, I mean I read Blackest Night, also did Indigo kill a Black Lantern? "
Someone who isn't on Thanos's level.  That is for sure.
#39 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn said:
"@Push said:
" @King Saturn said:
"

I am interested to see how powerful Nekron is in current years... though back in the day... he did give the Classic Captain Atom ( aka Mr. Universe Buster ) a good run

BTW - Do Any of You Guys Know if your Local Comic Book Store is having Massive Sales on Black Friday ?

"
Never known CA to bust up any universes in my time!  Outside of Wildstorm CA who merged with Voids powers, I believe? "
Classic Captain Atom created and devoured a Universe into himself...  "

It was something he made up inside himself, he didn't actually create anything in the DCU, and that bears no relevance on his firepower!
#40 Edited by Superparody (2011 posts) - - Show Bio
@Klandicar said:

" @reaper2923 said:

" Who is Nekron, I mean I read Blackest Night, also did Indigo kill a Black Lantern? "
Someone who isn't on Thanos's level.  That is for sure. "
whoa whoa whoa...Nekron is death for the DC realm...what level do you think... Thanos is at 
TOAA < Thanos ?
Seriously Thanos is over-hyped like hell
#41 Posted by King Saturn (224210 posts) - - Show Bio
@Push said:
" @King Saturn said:
"@Push said:
" @King Saturn said:
"

I am interested to see how powerful Nekron is in current years... though back in the day... he did give the Classic Captain Atom ( aka Mr. Universe Buster ) a good run

BTW - Do Any of You Guys Know if your Local Comic Book Store is having Massive Sales on Black Friday ?

"
Never known CA to bust up any universes in my time!  Outside of Wildstorm CA who merged with Voids powers, I believe? "
Classic Captain Atom created and devoured a Universe into himself...  "
It was something he made up inside himself, he didn't actually create anything in the DCU, and that bears no relevance on his firepower! "
if it was made up inside himself... why did it fire out of his chest and into the stream of the DC Multiverse ? 
#42 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn said:
" @Push said:
" @King Saturn said:
"@Push said:
" @King Saturn said:
"

I am interested to see how powerful Nekron is in current years... though back in the day... he did give the Classic Captain Atom ( aka Mr. Universe Buster ) a good run

BTW - Do Any of You Guys Know if your Local Comic Book Store is having Massive Sales on Black Friday ?

"
Never known CA to bust up any universes in my time!  Outside of Wildstorm CA who merged with Voids powers, I believe? "
Classic Captain Atom created and devoured a Universe into himself...  "
It was something he made up inside himself, he didn't actually create anything in the DCU, and that bears no relevance on his firepower! "
if it was made up inside himself... why did it fire out of his chest and into the stream of the DC Multiverse ?  "


I'll have to re-check the issue and pull it back out, but if I remember correctly, it was the dark firestorm who touched CA and corrupted him and his body went camatose, for want of a better word, so he wasn't even actuall in his physical body when that hapend, if I recall correctly? Again, will have to get back and possibly post the scans if and when I find those issues, it was a four issue story that was around the time just before it led into Armegeddon when they were planning to make CA the original Monarch, which is why his series stopped after this storyline, which was somewhere around issues 58 or 59??
#43 Posted by Emerald_General_Jai (2306 posts) - - Show Bio

Hasn't Geoff stated he views Nekron as the opposite number to the Presence?? Shouldn't that give us a good ball-park to work in?

#44 Posted by Th3 FlAsH 123 (616 posts) - - Show Bio
@Emerald_General_Jai said:
"Hasn't Geoff stated he views Nekron as the opposite number to the Presence?? Shouldn't that give us a good ball-park to work in? "

Wow. I didn't imagine he would ever be that strong.
#45 Posted by GamorasBigDaddy (2818 posts) - - Show Bio
@vuviper said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" No prob : )  I remember debating an entire thread for Elongated man before figuring out I was thinking of Plastic man instead :P "
Hm.. I wonder if Neron will be a black lantern... "

Or even Ares maybe?
#46 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio
@GamorasBigDaddy: Ares came back.
#47 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
@Emerald_General_Jai said:
" Hasn't Geoff stated he views Nekron as the opposite number to the Presence?? Shouldn't that give us a good ball-park to work in? "
He stated he considers Nekron to be one of the most powerful dark forces in DCU. Being equal to the presence is a bit of a jump from there....
#48 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
@GamorasBigDaddy said:
"@vuviper said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" No prob : )  I remember debating an entire thread for Elongated man before figuring out I was thinking of Plastic man instead :P "
Hm.. I wonder if Neron will be a black lantern... "
Or even Ares maybe? "

Is DC Ares dead??
#49 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
@Push said:
" @GamorasBigDaddy said:
"@vuviper said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" No prob : )  I remember debating an entire thread for Elongated man before figuring out I was thinking of Plastic man instead :P "
Hm.. I wonder if Neron will be a black lantern... "
Or even Ares maybe? "
Is DC Ares dead?? "
WW killed him a few issues ago.
#50 Posted by Push (1552 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom said:
" @Push said:
" @GamorasBigDaddy said:
"@vuviper said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" No prob : )  I remember debating an entire thread for Elongated man before figuring out I was thinking of Plastic man instead :P "
Hm.. I wonder if Neron will be a black lantern... "
Or even Ares maybe? "
Is DC Ares dead?? "
WW killed him a few issues ago. "

Really? Wow, that's crazy! DC seem to like throwing there villains away!!