Natsu Dragneel vs The Lion's Sin of Pride, Escanor

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#1  Edited By kelvinator

This is Pre-skip Natsu

Natsu can't eat Escanor's flames.

Battle takes place at 12 noon

Who wins?

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Escanor whispers boom. Also, what flames would Natsu even be eating? It's not flames, it's pure light and heat.

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#4  Edited By stormshadow_x

The spite is real.

1. pre time skip? Really? When he had even less of a chance?

2. Escanor doesn't cause flames unless I'm mistaken just heat.

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Unfair fight

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Escanor power is not fire, but the suns energy itself.

His power burns hotter than Fire, and hotter than purgatory flames which burn hotter than real life flames.

Turning a castle into melted slush. Disintegrate mesa battlefields, nearly taking out two Commandements in the middle of night, not at Rscanor power peak of noon.

He is the most powerful physically, and most durable Sin, beating out even Meliodas.

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Natsu is able to eat heat and energy too, but since he can't do that in this battle and it's PTS he loses.

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#12  Edited By stormshadow_x

@sirfizzwhizz said:

Escanor power is not fire, but the suns energy itself.

His power burns hotter than Fire, and hotter than purgatory flames which burn hotter than real life flames.

Turning a castle into melted slush. Disintegrate mesa battlefields, nearly taking out two Commandements in the middle of night, not at Rscanor power peak of noon.

He is the most powerful physically, and most durable Sin, beating out even Meliodas.

Escanor Stomps natsu (And probably the entirety of the FT Verse) but heat as a whole doesn't effect Natsu. If it's hot he's usually shown to be unaffected by it.

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Why preskip? post skip natsu would still lose.

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#14  Edited By sirfizzwhizz

@sirfizzwhizz said:

Escanor power is not fire, but the suns energy itself.

His power burns hotter than Fire, and hotter than purgatory flames which burn hotter than real life flames.

Turning a castle into melted slush. Disintegrate mesa battlefields, nearly taking out two Commandements in the middle of night, not at Rscanor power peak of noon.

He is the most powerful physically, and most durable Sin, beating out even Meliodas.

Escanor Stomps natsu (And probably the entirety of the FT Verse) but heat as a whole doesn't effect Natsu. If it's hot he's usually shown to be unaffected by it.

I see, then Escanor strength and speed will have to win the day.

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Escanor stomps

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#16  Edited By stormshadow_x

@sirfizzwhizz: Speaking of the Sins. Who would you saying is "overall" the weakest? Diane maybe? I get different answers from everyone I ask.

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@sirfizzwhizz: Speaking of the Sins. Who would you saying is "overall" the weakest? Diane maybe? I get different answers from everyone I ask.

Meh, this is a hard question to answer, mainly because all the Sins have their strengths and weakness.

Ban is the weakest, but then he has Stat stealing powers and immortality.

Gowther is physically seen inferior, but like Ban he is immortal to physical harm, and has the most useful hax.

Diana is said by some haters as the weakest, but she is physically the strongest sin, shown to be as fast as say Ban, Gowther, or King. She also has the most destructive attacks overall besides Mel, King, and Escanor.

Merlin is seen as weak due to hardly any stats, but damn that hax!

Finally we have King, Escanor, and Mel who are all simply badasses. The real question is who is the strongest, and that list goes Escanor > Meliodas > King > and any of the four sins taking fourth place depending on situation.

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The Lion spitestomps the dragon

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Someone go remake this battle, putting current version of Natsu or limit Natsu if he's stronger than Escanor. This battle is spite, pre timeskip is dead

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#20  Edited By higherpower  Moderator

@errorofthedamned said:

Someone go remake this battle, putting current version of Natsu or limit Natsu if he's stronger than Escanor. This battle is spite, pre timeskip is dead

I'm waiting for the series to end to make that thread. EOS Natsu vs Escanor could be a fair fight, I think he's bound to get better feats. Both Natsu and Escanor have vaporized lakes with their heat, so they have similar DC which both places them at island lvl

Natsu could also eat escanor's strongest attack (cruel sun + pride flare) but I'd still give Escanor the win over FDK Natsu due to speed and durability. It should be getting closer though, especially now that Zeref has gained a new powerup it looks like FT characters might jump a tier

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@errorofthedamned said:

Someone go remake this battle, putting current version of Natsu or limit Natsu if he's stronger than Escanor. This battle is spite, pre timeskip is dead

I'm waiting for the series to end to make that thread. EOS Natsu vs Escanor could be a fair fight, I think he's bound to get better feats. Both Natsu and Escanor have vaporized lakes with their heat, so they have similar DC which both places them at island lvl???

Natsu could also eat escanor's strongest attack (cruel sun + pride flare) but I'd still give Escanor the win over FDK Natsu due to speed and durability. It should be getting closer though, especially now that Zeref has gained a new powerup it looks like FT characters might jump a tier

aaaaaaa........ just a question

when natsu vaporized a lake????

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@linglung said:

aaaaaaa........ just a question

when natsu vaporized a lake????

I thought you were like deep into fairy tail?? Is was when he fought Jacob

The lake begins to evaporate here
The lake begins to evaporate here
By the time he punches Jacob the lake bed is completely dried up
By the time he punches Jacob the lake bed is completely dried up

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#23  Edited By linglung

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@linglung said:

aaaaaaa........ just a question

when natsu vaporized a lake????

I thought you were like deep into fairy tail?? Is was when he fought Jacob

The lake begins to evaporate here
The lake begins to evaporate here
By the time he punches Jacob the lake bed is completely dried up
By the time he punches Jacob the lake bed is completely dried up

ahhhhhhhh.. this scan....

but before that,, sorry for my bad english

i remember this scan and already see this calc in vs wiki battle forums...

but vaporized a lake = island level????? for real???

and what about mirajane???

she drying up a sea water...

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for natsu case im sure,, natsu didn't vaporized all water in the lake..... but only a small portion or small part of the lake,, same like mirajane who only vaporized very very small portion of the sea....

so.. what is my proof to say natsu only vaporized small portion or small part of the lake???

here is the proof

can you see the lake??? this chapter is after natsu defeat jacob... or after Universe one canceled

and magnolia still has the lake... which mean natsu doesn't vaporized all water in that lake,, but only small portion or small part of that lake

and the latest chapter,, Christina Pegasus vs Acnologia happen on the lake...

natsu never vaporized a lake (the fact that lake still there),, and mirajane never vaporized a sea... they only vaporized small portion or small part of a lake or sea

tbh,, i believe there is no one in FT verse have large island level feat except acnologia (by power scaling).. and for speed FT char's is around hypersonic...

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@linglung: There actually many characters in FT verse that are island lvl. Like gildarts, the only character I actually like, was one-shotting mountains with no effort, indicating that heś far above mountain level. Both Acnologia and Igneel are island lvl, as well as Zeref (by scaling) and possibly Laxus

As for Natsu vaporizing the lake, he completely dried it up, and Lake Scilliora should be pretty large in size. I think why most people agree vaporizing a lake is island lvl is because the amount of energy required to do that, which is larger than that of a hydrogen bomb.

Natsu is city level normally when amped, possibly small island in FDK

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@god_vulcan: again, sorry for my bad english

1. Hmmm about gildart,, i'm sure he one shot a small mountain or TOP of the mountain (remember when igneel destroy top of the mountain too in Anime feat),,,

And that was not a casual attack... Gildart angry at that time (because a monster ate natsu LoL).. And gildart destroy a catedral or church (i forgot the name) with "casual attack".. or maybe multi city block level by feat

2. Acno, igneel and zeref yes,, "Maybe" have island level feat at the end... but laxus?? Hmmm....

3. From what i've see, natsu never Completely vaporized Scilliora lake (do you see a scan that i give it to you before),, because the fact that lake or scilliora lake still there,,

You can see in chapter after universe one canceled, or in chapter before erza, jellal and wendy vs Acnologia

scilliora lake still there and natsu "never completely varorized it",, he only vaporized small part of the lake... so for me,, by feat natsu never vaporized a lake.. only small, very small part of the lake (Due to the Fact that "we still can see scilliora lake after universe one cancelled,, or we still can see the lake in a chapter before Erza, jellal and wendy vs Acnologia or in chapter Pegasus vs Acnologia")

4. Wow... if vaporized a lake = island level..

then how powerful hachibi?? He vaporized a lake a large lake or maybe small part of the sea plus destroy multi mountain with one single Bijuu dama at the same time (Hachibi vs team taka)..

Just curious.. LoL

Again, sorry for my english

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#26 higherpower  Moderator

@linglung: I´m not going to argue that Natsu is stronger than Escanor, they´re no where near the same levels of power and Escanor would stomp him as of right now.

Hell, the only reason I brought up that feat was to show that as FT reaches EOS their feats are getting better. Escanor vaping Lake Paynes is more impressive that what Natsu, I was just saying that their feats are comparable now. When this thread was made it was a mismatch of ungodly proportions

That´s why I said I´m waiting for the fairy tail series to end before making this matchup, I think there´ll be a good fight by then. But you had some good points to

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@god_vulcan: ok then...

Let's wait till natsu get new feat

Nice debate man...

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Escanor blitzes even current Natsu's head off with one swing.

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Mismatch. Escanor blitz and oneshot.

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@flashingsabre said:

Escanor blitzes even current Natsu's head off with one swing.

Mismatch. Escanor blitz and oneshot.

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Completely unfair. PTS dies easily

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#33  Edited By SuperDragonfly9

@akronawol17: he probably could still eat the energy since he has been known to eat energies that are elemental outside of Fire. Escanor is superior tho and should be able to win.

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You really don't want Natsu to have a chance even tho he didn't even if he's in his Demon Form.

Escanor kicks Natsu's head off and wins.

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lol, even eos natsu would die

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Natsu would be praising the sun very soon.

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Fairytale wank is real escanor just needs to use pure strength to rip natsu apart

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@combatt: stop numbing dead threads to say a Characters Stomp, when it's unanimous that Escanor Stomps

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Spite

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Escanor wins

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Pre-skip Natsu doesn't stand a chance

Make it Alvarez Natsu and we have a fight