#1 Posted by spekqj (566 posts) - - Show Bio

If nate grey handle his full power, can he win against dark phoenix?

#2 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

this is one hell of a match but id say dark phoenix

#3 Edited by spekqj (566 posts) - - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"this is one hell of a match but id say dark phoenix"

Can you explain why dark phoenix win?
#4 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

She's more powerful as an avitar of the Phoenix Force. Nate Grey would not have the power he has if not for her.

#5 Posted by spekqj (566 posts) - - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"She's more powerful as an avitar of the Phoenix Force. Nate Grey would not have the power he has if not for her."

It’s the scan that compares identical reading of Nates power to the Dark Phoenix.

He is as powerful as the dark phoenix.


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#6 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

X-Man at the height of his understanding and mastery of his powers would take this. He would just unplug Jean.

#7 Posted by Perfect Cell (3470 posts) - - Show Bio
Korg said:
"X-Man at the height of his understanding and mastery of his powers would take this. He would just unplug Jean."

Jean but not the Pheonix Force itself.
#8 Posted by Perfect Cell (3470 posts) - - Show Bio

Who's stronger? X-Man at full power or Stryfe at full power??

#9 Posted by King Saturn (223745 posts) - - Show Bio
I think X-Man at full power should win here
#10 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio
Perfect Cell said:
"Who's stronger? X-Man at full power or Stryfe at full power??"
They are essentially the same person with the same power set. I'd say X-Man because Stryfe's body must be wearing out from using his powers. This is something that Cable mentions as happening to him at full power, as well as X-Man. Stryfe never seemed the worse for wear to me, but that might just be because they didn't figure they had to put a cap on his abilities yet. X-Man probably has more raw power, but Stryfe has more experience and finesse with said powers.
#11 Edited by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio
Perfect Cell said: 
"Who's stronger? X-Man at full power or Stryfe at full power??"
Xman is more powerful than Stryfe
X man anit stronger than Dark Phoenix even at his most powerful level, he never came close to feats she achieved and he still lost to the Surfer, Surfer toyed with him at first but when he got serious Surfer beat him.
#12 Edited by extrastupidsupersnitch (130 posts) - - Show Bio

I remember that Nate give all his energy to everyone on the planet so that they'd be safe from Aliens. I'd trust Nate with that much power more then Dark Phoenix. Phoenix would probably drain everything, to heck with us little mortals…

#13 Posted by Erik (31480 posts) - - Show Bio

I would think that Dark Phoenix could just drain X-Man's energy right?

#14 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

More likely the Phoenix would body-hop into X-Man. Either way, he wins, IMO.

#15 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

You remember it was Dark Phoenix that challenged Galactus don't you.

#16 Posted by Perfect Cell (3470 posts) - - Show Bio
SeSAW said:
"You remember it was Dark Phoenix that challenged Galactus don't you."

Dark Phoenix is alot more powerful than Galactus. (Fully Fed)

It's Jean Grey that keeps the entity from using it's potentiel to the fullest.
#17 Posted by Perfect Cell (3470 posts) - - Show Bio
Korg said:
"More likely the Phoenix would body-hop into X-Man. Either way, he wins, IMO."

IMO, he wins over Jean Grey; He would probably be a better host for the Phoenix anyway, But X-Man could not beat the Phoenix as an Entity (no Jean Grey Allowed)
#18 Posted by Korg (11931 posts) - - Show Bio

Obviously not. But that wasn't the battle. The Phoenix requires a host to be "Dark".

#19 Posted by Perfect Cell (3470 posts) - - Show Bio

Then it's probably a 50/50 or 40/60.

#20 Edited by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe Dark Phoenix. Close battle though.

#21 Posted by WeaponX510 (1020 posts) - - Show Bio

X-Man is capable of wining but i gotta say tie this is tough

#22 Posted by cracks (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
@WeaponX510: I think that Dark Phoenix has more skill and experience than X-Man. I don't know how their raw power compare. 
#23 Posted by MKF30 (11635 posts) - - Show Bio

Dark Phoenix

#24 Posted by Edamame (27903 posts) - - Show Bio
@Korg said:
" More likely the Phoenix would body-hop into X-Man. Either way, he wins, IMO. "
How would Nate win if the Phoenix body-hops into X-Man? Would X-Man be the one who is being "used?"
#25 Posted by Red_Blade (2441 posts) - - Show Bio

Nate

#26 Posted by spekqj (566 posts) - - Show Bio

Dark Phoenix
#27 Posted by lord_oraculous016 (9282 posts) - - Show Bio

i think mama's gonna give her son some good old spanking.. lol
#28 Posted by BMEZY (1205 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks
when did X Man have the virtually limitless power of unborn souls in the entire multiverse?? i'd say she trumps him in raw power... question though. how can he defeat the very source of all his power?? or his very existence for that matter?? 
 
i just had to bump it tehehehe
#29 Posted by BarelyAverage (941 posts) - - Show Bio

Dark Phoenix but I can see X-man winning.
 
Oh and Stryfe beats X-man because he is coolder.

#30 Edited by PhoenixoftheTides (3443 posts) - - Show Bio

The Phoenix would win. That scan is flawed. Jean at the height of her power as the Dark Phoenix was weaker than her appearance during New X-Men because she had incomplete control and understanding of her powers at the point of time in which she wore that costume. She has the ability to push past this limit to achieve new levels of power, which is why even during her initial run her power levels were constantly increasing whereas Nate's potential is set at a lower level.

#31 Posted by sa5m (2112 posts) - - Show Bio

The Dark Phoenix =)

#32 Posted by progenitor (7532 posts) - - Show Bio

Close call, but I gotta go with a full powered X-Man.
#33 Posted by karrob (4274 posts) - - Show Bio

Im with Nate

#34 Posted by BMEZY (1205 posts) - - Show Bio

are you all calling it a tie because of that one scan?? has x man ever shown to be on the power output that any phoenix avatar has shown?? no can he tap into virtually limitless power, no; hell dark phoenix was said by the watcher to be only second to the creator "the living tribunal", and she would live to be god, does that make it true?? heck no.. i don't think they are equal, which nothing but that one scan, which is probably flawed for the simple fact that nate has never been shown to be able to do anyting that any pheonix user could do.. so if DP was is only second to that of the creator (which isn't true) and nate is supposedly equal to her, then i guess he is too.. you guys are getting to hype of this one scan, which his actual feats don't even back up
#35 Posted by doomsummers (761 posts) - - Show Bio
@BMEZY: what issue was that?
#36 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio
@SeSAW said:
this is one hell of a match but id say dark phoenix
#37 Posted by BMEZY (1205 posts) - - Show Bio


 

this is what i'm talking about... just because something is mentioned one time in one scan ppl want to go and run with it.. prime example.. DP was said to be second to the creator, and could easily destroy destroy the universe... does it make it true NOO because her feats don't exactly back up this statement it's hyperbole... same thing as x man being equal to DP i say it's hyperbole... he hasn't even shown things that even rachel with a fraction of the phoenix force is shown to do...

#38 Posted by njones5 (234 posts) - - Show Bio

@korg: yeah im sure not i dont care what the writers say he cant consume a star

#40 Posted by DaredevilDD78 (809 posts) - - Show Bio

Dark Phoenix