If nate grey handle his full power, can he win against dark phoenix?
"Who's stronger? X-Man at full power or Stryfe at full power??"They are essentially the same person with the same power set. I'd say X-Man because Stryfe's body must be wearing out from using his powers. This is something that Cable mentions as happening to him at full power, as well as X-Man. Stryfe never seemed the worse for wear to me, but that might just be because they didn't figure they had to put a cap on his abilities yet. X-Man probably has more raw power, but Stryfe has more experience and finesse with said powers.
"Who's stronger? X-Man at full power or Stryfe at full power??"Xman is more powerful than Stryfe
X man anit stronger than Dark Phoenix even at his most powerful level, he never came close to feats she achieved and he still lost to the Surfer, Surfer toyed with him at first but when he got serious Surfer beat him.
"More likely the Phoenix would body-hop into X-Man. Either way, he wins, IMO."
IMO, he wins over Jean Grey; He would probably be a better host for the Phoenix anyway, But X-Man could not beat the Phoenix as an Entity (no Jean Grey Allowed)
when did X Man have the virtually limitless power of unborn souls in the entire multiverse?? i'd say she trumps him in raw power... question though. how can he defeat the very source of all his power?? or his very existence for that matter??
i just had to bump it tehehehe
The Phoenix would win. That scan is flawed. Jean at the height of her power as the Dark Phoenix was weaker than her appearance during New X-Men because she had incomplete control and understanding of her powers at the point of time in which she wore that costume. She has the ability to push past this limit to achieve new levels of power, which is why even during her initial run her power levels were constantly increasing whereas Nate's potential is set at a lower level.
are you all calling it a tie because of that one scan?? has x man ever shown to be on the power output that any phoenix avatar has shown?? no can he tap into virtually limitless power, no; hell dark phoenix was said by the watcher to be only second to the creator "the living tribunal", and she would live to be god, does that make it true?? heck no.. i don't think they are equal, which nothing but that one scan, which is probably flawed for the simple fact that nate has never been shown to be able to do anyting that any pheonix user could do.. so if DP was is only second to that of the creator (which isn't true) and nate is supposedly equal to her, then i guess he is too.. you guys are getting to hype of this one scan, which his actual feats don't even back up
this is what i'm talking about... just because something is mentioned one time in one scan ppl want to go and run with it.. prime example.. DP was said to be second to the creator, and could easily destroy destroy the universe... does it make it true NOO because her feats don't exactly back up this statement it's hyperbole... same thing as x man being equal to DP i say it's hyperbole... he hasn't even shown things that even rachel with a fraction of the phoenix force is shown to do...