#1 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3448 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto isn't allowed to use Kyuubi

There is no limit to Sage Mode

Luffy isn't allowed to use gears 3rd or haki

There is no limit to to how long he can stay in gears 2nd

Both are bloodlusted

Who wins?

#2 Posted by Nefarious (19806 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy.

#3 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

I know nothing of this Luf guy, so I'm saying Naruto until someone convinces me otherwise.

#4 Edited by Mr_Ingenuity (7425 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman: Way out of Naruto's speed range. He can deliver hundreds of punches in a minute.

#5 Posted by RudeBomberBoy01 (1812 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy should take this.

#6 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy takes it.

@ImTheDamnBatman:

#7 Posted by ComocYahweh (661 posts) - - Show Bio

Sage mode easily, much faster, stronger and more durable, not to mention his increase chakra.

#8 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComocYahweh: Luffy's durability >>> Naruto's durability

#9 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4527 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy!

#10 Edited by ComocYahweh (661 posts) - - Show Bio

@PlasticBag said:

@ComocYahweh: Luffy's durability >>> Naruto's durability

Yeah I don't think so, in Sage mode one nearly completely invulnerable, and Naruto has never gotten hurt while in it.

#11 Posted by ComocYahweh (661 posts) - - Show Bio

And not to mention how much more badass he is.

#12 Posted by Simon_the_digger (2919 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy

#13 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComocYahweh: Naruto has been hurt in Sage Mode. He also hasn't fought anyone on Luffys level before. And you have your own opinion.

#14 Posted by ComocYahweh (661 posts) - - Show Bio

@PlasticBag said:

@ComocYahweh: Naruto has been hurt in Sage Mode. He also hasn't fought anyone on Luffys level before. And you have your own opinion.

He has never been hurt in Sage Mode, he has fought enemies much stronger than Luffy and won, and yes, but there is a difference between opinion and fact.

#15 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComocYahweh: Who has he fought that is stronger than Luffy? And yes opinion and fact are different like how you said Naruto is much more badass is an opinion.

#16 Posted by ComocYahweh (661 posts) - - Show Bio

@PlasticBag said:

@ComocYahweh: Who has he fought that is stronger than Luffy? And yes opinion and fact are different like how you said Naruto is much more badass is an opinion.

Pein for one is much more powerful than Luffy.

#17 Posted by PlasticBag (1222 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComocYahweh: No Pein would get blitzed by Luffy since Luffys speed is greater than Narutos.

#18 Posted by uberhikari (2474 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy is stronger, faster and more durable. Plus, no version of the rasengan is going to hurt Luffy, with him being rubber and all. The only thing that can really hurt Luffy is the rasenshuriken, since that can cut Luffy.

#19 Edited by ComocYahweh (661 posts) - - Show Bio

@uberhikari said:

Luffy is stronger, faster and more durable. Plus, no version of the rasengan is going to hurt Luffy, with him being rubber and all. The only thing that can really hurt Luffy is the rasenshuriken, since that can cut Luffy.

You have no idea what you are talking about. As kid naruto was faster than the eye can see, as older he is even faster, and in Sage mode he's much much faster. Also Naruto has NEVER been hurt in Sage mode so there is no reason to believe Luffys durability is higher and sage mode naruto is easily 200+ tonner.

#20 Posted by Skit (2516 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComocYahweh said:

@uberhikari said:

Luffy is stronger, faster and more durable. Plus, no version of the rasengan is going to hurt Luffy, with him being rubber and all. The only thing that can really hurt Luffy is the rasenshuriken, since that can cut Luffy.

You have no idea what you are talking about. As kid naruto was faster than the eye can see, as older he is even faster, and in Sage mode he's much much faster. Also Naruto has NEVER been hurt in Sage mode so there is no reason to believe Luffys durability is higher and sage mode naruto is easily 200+ tonner.

I'm guessing your basing that 200+ ton thing off summons,well luffy picked this up and spun it.This is also way early on in the series.

You say Sage Mode Naruto's never been hurt,then explain in the fight with Pain him having 10+ rods in his body and not being able to move.About the whole not being able to see thing,thats not that impressive(you can see him running a lot of the time anyways).

#21 Edited by uberhikari (2474 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComocYahweh said:

@uberhikari said:

Luffy is stronger, faster and more durable. Plus, no version of the rasengan is going to hurt Luffy, with him being rubber and all. The only thing that can really hurt Luffy is the rasenshuriken, since that can cut Luffy.

You have no idea what you are talking about. As kid naruto was faster than the eye can see, as older he is even faster, and in Sage mode he's much much faster. Also Naruto has NEVER been hurt in Sage mode so there is no reason to believe Luffys durability is higher and sage mode naruto is easily 200+ tonner.

First, Naruto is fast but in Gear 2nd Luffy is hypersonic. As the guy above me showed, Luffy absolutely wrecked Blueno by speed blitzing him. And earlier in the video we see Blueno make 4 or 5 sonic booms in quick succession.

Second, you said Naruto has never been hurt in Sage Mode? LOL! Either you're lying or wanking. In any event, here is Naruto getting the sage chakura sucked out of him and then getting shit stomped by Pain. Plus, your argument is fallacious anyway: even if Naruto has never been injured in Sage Mode (which isn't true), that doesn't mean he can't be injured while in Sage Mode.

Third, I hope you're not one of those people who are going to argue that Naruto in Sage Mode is stronger than Luffy. Please, don't try it. Luffy has a ridiculous amount of strength feats like this and this. He's pushing over buildings while sandwiched in between them and punching through bedrock and knocking over buildings. In terms of strength Luffy shits all over Naruto.

Fourth, if all Naruto tries to do is spam the rasengan, which he does 99.99% of the time, he's going to lose. Why? Because Luffy is made out of rubber so he can't be hurt physically by attacks like that. The only thing that will really work against Luffy is the rasenshuriken because that uses wind manipulation chakura that can cut Luffy.

So, all in all, Luffy is faster, stronger and his durability, enhanced by the fact that his body is made out of rubber, makes him impervious to any Frog Fu or rasengan techniques. Luffy takes this fairly easily.

Edit: Since the video above doesn't actually show the part where Luffy speed blitzing Blueno, here it is.

#22 Posted by The Stegman (24017 posts) - - Show Bio
Luffy wins pretty easily.
#23 Posted by morgrim (1028 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy FTW

#24 Edited by sharingan_eyes (90 posts) - - Show Bio
#25 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3984 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy

#26 Posted by N0tS0An0nym0us (907 posts) - - Show Bio

Strawhat Pirate stomps

gomu-gomu no-Knock you the F*CK OUT

Luffy is faster than Naruto, possibly stronger and none of Naruto's physical attacks have meaning

just gonna leave this here

#27 Posted by Ms. Omega (4450 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy always and forever.

#28 Edited by terry2012 (5099 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy does wins here.

#29 Posted by KingofComix (211 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComocYahweh said:

@PlasticBag said:

@ComocYahweh: Luffy's durability >>> Naruto's durability

Yeah I don't think so, in Sage mode one nearly completely invulnerable, and Naruto has never gotten hurt while in it.

Naruto has speed advantage over Luffy? What manga are you reading? Base form luffy has better speed feats than Sage mode naruto dude.

#30 Posted by KingofComix (211 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComocYahweh said:

@uberhikari said:

Luffy is stronger, faster and more durable. Plus, no version of the rasengan is going to hurt Luffy, with him being rubber and all. The only thing that can really hurt Luffy is the rasenshuriken, since that can cut Luffy.

You have no idea what you are talking about. As kid naruto was faster than the eye can see, as older he is even faster, and in Sage mode he's much much faster. Also Naruto has NEVER been hurt in Sage mode so there is no reason to believe Luffys durability is higher and sage mode naruto is easily 200+ tonner.

Luffy is more durable, he's damn near completely Invulnerable to blunt force attacks, and naruto is nearly quick enough to tag him anyway, speed blitz is a very possible win for Luffy.

#31 Posted by RudeBomberBoy01 (1812 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto vs Luffy will never be a fair fight/debate, it's always gonna be a mismatch in one another's favour.

If the kyuubi get's involved, it's a mismatch, if not, it's still a mismatch.. One character gets nerfed to make things fair, it's a mismatch, the other gets nerfed to make things fair and it's still a mismatch lol

#32 Posted by ComocYahweh (661 posts) - - Show Bio

@Skit said:

@ComocYahweh said:

@uberhikari said:

Luffy is stronger, faster and more durable. Plus, no version of the rasengan is going to hurt Luffy, with him being rubber and all. The only thing that can really hurt Luffy is the rasenshuriken, since that can cut Luffy.

You have no idea what you are talking about. As kid naruto was faster than the eye can see, as older he is even faster, and in Sage mode he's much much faster. Also Naruto has NEVER been hurt in Sage mode so there is no reason to believe Luffys durability is higher and sage mode naruto is easily 200+ tonner.

You say Sage Mode Naruto's never been hurt,then explain in the fight with Pain him having 10+ rods in his body and not being able to move.About the whole not being able to see thing,thats not that impressive(you can see him running a lot of the time anyways).

That was after his sage mode had been absorbed, so he was no longer in sage mode.

#33 Posted by Skit (2516 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComocYahweh: I just rewatched that fight and you are correct,so I appologise for that.By watching that fight I did notice that Naruto in Sage mode did show pain a few times.When the Deva path used the small green/black sphere version of the almighty push on Naruto and his clone.Hes sent flying back and you see his face and hes wincing in pain grunting(i'll provide a scan/video if you want).When Jiraiya went into Sage mode he got injured and even killed.He had far better control of Sage mode,yet he was deinatley not invincible.

#34 Posted by ComocYahweh (661 posts) - - Show Bio

@Skit said:

@ComocYahweh: I just rewatched that fight and you are correct,so I appologise for that.By watching that fight I did notice that Naruto in Sage mode did show pain a few times.When the Deva path used the small green/black sphere version of the almighty push on Naruto and his clone.Hes sent flying back and you see his face and hes wincing in pain grunting(i'll provide a scan/video if you want).When Jiraiya went into Sage mode he got injured and even killed.He had far better control of Sage mode,yet he was deinatley not invincible.

Naruto has far better control of sage mode.

#35 Posted by D3athstroke (3911 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy oneshots

#36 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16805 posts) - - Show Bio

Considering Naruto's speed and durability boosts in sage mode, they're pretty even, with an edge to luffy. But Going with Naruto due to his versatility, specially with sage mode. If luffy gets hit with a rasenshurikern, I doubt even he will be allright..

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#37 Edited by Skit (2516 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComocYahweh: Jiraiya was able to incorperate more into hs fight with Pain(lasted longer and used more justus iiirc),looked far more frog like and has a lot more experience with it.Naruto was just had better stats(since he was better at base).You also havn't addressed any of my other points like strangth,speed and the fact that Sage Mode Naruto(he difinatley was) got injured from Deva Paths almighty push.

#38 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16805 posts) - - Show Bio

@Skit: Actually, his sage mode was considered better because he didn't have a single frog-like transformation..

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