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#1 Edited by SwordandShields (712 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto Shippuden

vs

One Piece

Battle Type: 10v10 You decide the fighters.(past or present)

Battle Rules:

Morals off

Standard Equipment

Standard Powers

win by KO or Death.

Location: Forest

No BFR.

#2 Posted by XImpossibruX (5174 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto is currently the strongest of the HST. That universe wins.

#3 Posted by SwordandShields (712 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX: nice, great to hear. but if you had to pick 10 from either side who would you pick?

#4 Posted by nickzambuto (13664 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Naruto is currently the strongest of the HST. That universe wins.

Naruto is the strongest Hubble Space Telescope? Who knew.

#5 Posted by SwordandShields (712 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: LOL really? ahaha

#6 Posted by XImpossibruX (5174 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

@XImpossibruX said:

Naruto is currently the strongest of the HST. That universe wins.

Naruto is the strongest Hubble Space Telescope? Who knew.

#7 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Naruto is currently the strongest of the HST. That universe wins.

  1. Bleach
  2. Naruto
  3. One Piece
#8 Posted by nickzambuto (13664 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

@nickzambuto said:

@XImpossibruX said:

Naruto is currently the strongest of the HST. That universe wins.

Naruto is the strongest Hubble Space Telescope? Who knew.

For real though... what's HST?

#9 Posted by sandiego008 (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@XImpossibruX said:

Naruto is currently the strongest of the HST. That universe wins.

  1. Bleach
  2. Naruto
  3. One Piece

I disagree.

#10 Posted by XImpossibruX (5174 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: Holy Shonen Trinity (Naruto, Luffy, Bleach)

@jeanroygrant said:

@XImpossibruX said:

Naruto is currently the strongest of the HST. That universe wins.

  1. Bleach
  2. Naruto
  3. One Piece

Eh... Bleach has fast characters but they lack in the durability department.

Sharingan can easily keep up with them and predict the movements before they happen.

#11 Posted by CerberusPrime3k (950 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: HolyShonenTrinity<------------->One Piece,Bleach,and Naruto the three most popular manga out at the moment or something like that

#12 Posted by sandiego008 (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy, Black Beard, Bartholomew kuma, Eneru, Smoke, Boa, crocodile, akainu, Aokiji, rayliegh

My 10 ... build your team from other universe to beat it ...

#13 Posted by nickzambuto (13664 posts) - - Show Bio

@CerberusPrime3k said:

@nickzambuto: HolyShonenTrinity<------------->One Piece,Bleach,and Naruto the three most popular manga out at the moment or something like that

Not to steer this thread off topic, but all three of those have been in publication for years now right? Are they still written by the original authors? I'm on volume 9 of One Piece and really enjoying it.

#14 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

My Naruto team: Current Madara. Jiraiya. Hashirama Senju. Killer Bee. A. Minato Namikaze. Pain*. Tsusnade. Sasuke Uchiha. Naruto Uzomaki.

@SwordandShields: For the record, a really simliar thread to this is already going. And I think your thread belongs in the Off-Topic because it doesn't have a comic character in it.

#15 Posted by CerberusPrime3k (950 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

@CerberusPrime3k said:

@nickzambuto: HolyShonenTrinity<------------->One Piece,Bleach,and Naruto the three most popular manga out at the moment or something like that

Not to steer this thread off topic, but all three of those have been in publication for years now right? Are they still written by the original authors? I'm on volume 9 of One Piece and really enjoying it.

Yes

#16 Posted by sandiego008 (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

@KnightRise: I have zero confidence in your team beating mine. I have basically sandman and ice dude, lighting dude and faster than light dude at my disposal as well as earthquake / black hole man, rubber man, king bfr man, smokeman, if you think women are hot you lose chick and if you have a power I can negate it guy on my team. Most of my team becomes intangible unless you have haki ... which no one on any other verse has.

Bleach and Naruto characters dont really go intangible ... but a ton of one piece characters do. This is the difference in powers IMO.

#17 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandiego008 said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@XImpossibruX said:

Naruto is currently the strongest of the HST. That universe wins.

  1. Bleach
  2. Naruto
  3. One Piece

I disagree.

With what part?

@XImpossibruX said:

@nickzambuto: Holy Shonen Trinity (Naruto, Luffy, Bleach)

@jeanroygrant said:

@XImpossibruX said:

Naruto is currently the strongest of the HST. That universe wins.

  1. Bleach
  2. Naruto
  3. One Piece

Eh... Bleach has fast characters but they lack in the durability department.

Sharingan can easily keep up with them and predict the movements before they happen.

Truuee

#18 Posted by sandiego008 (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: You put onepiece on bottom ... I made my team, if you think you can build a team to beat it using either naruto or bleach feel free. But I don't think you will be able to due to onepiece characters becoming intangible. Naruto and bleach characters manipulate elements, while one piece characters become them.

#19 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandiego008 said:

@jeanroygrant: You put onepiece on bottom ... I made my team, if you think you can build a team to beat it using either naruto or bleach feel free. But I don't think you will be able to due to onepiece characters becoming intangible. Naruto and bleach characters manipulate elements, while one piece characters become them.

Ohhh.

#20 Posted by CerberusPrime3k (950 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

@nickzambuto: Holy Shonen Trinity (Naruto, Luffy, Bleach)

@jeanroygrant said:

@XImpossibruX said:

Naruto is currently the strongest of the HST. That universe wins.

  1. Bleach
  2. Naruto
  3. One Piece

Eh... Bleach has fast characters but they lack in the durability department.

Sharingan can easily keep up with them and predict the movements before they happen.

Not really Most bleach characters are faster than Minato whom is and still is the fasted character in Naruto

secondly the Sharingan has difficulty tracking fast movement this has been gone over in another thread that happened around here not too long ago

think it was Itachi vs Minato and the general consensus agreed that Itachi would be incapable of tracking his movements via sharingan and He'd be more inclined to rely on his Susanoo because Minato is massively faster than himself.

#21 Edited by CerberusPrime3k (950 posts) - - Show Bio

My team

Nagato (Prime)

Madara Current(but not immortal for this fight)

Current Naruto

Hashirama Senju (Prime)

Orochimaru

3rd Raikage

Itachi (Prime)

Kazuku

Tobirama Senju

#22 Posted by sandiego008 (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

@CerberusPrime3k: How do they take care of all the intangibles?

#23 Posted by CerberusPrime3k (950 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandiego008: Soul attacks

#24 Posted by The Stegman (24384 posts) - - Show Bio
@sandiego008: It depends, if Genjutsu is allowed to affect them in this case (despite their lack of chakra) then Tsukoyomi could attack their minds
#25 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3499 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Stegman
@sandiego008: It depends, if Genjutsu is allowed to affect them in this case (despite their lack of chakra) then Tsukoyomi could attack their minds
I learned that genjutsu should work on any other anim even tho they dnt have chakra. My reasons for saying that is cuz the laws are the same. Chakra is the life force for naruto universe. Genjutsu affect the chakra of an opponent(aka life force of an opponent) so it should still work on anyone else. DBZ life force is KI, One Piece I believe is haki, Yu Yu Hakusho is spirit energy, and bleach is called spiritual pressure. Even tho they all have different names. The laws of it is still the same cuz its the life force of that anime. So whether theu have chakra or not. Genjutsu affect their life force so it will still work on any other anime.
#26 Posted by No_Trolling (653 posts) - - Show Bio

The creator of Ninjutsu. The God of Ninja. The Sage of Six Paths solos.

#27 Posted by solesamurai (591 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

@nickzambuto: Holy Shonen Trinity (Naruto, Luffy, Bleach)

@jeanroygrant said:

@XImpossibruX said:

Naruto is currently the strongest of the HST. That universe wins.

  1. Bleach
  2. Naruto
  3. One Piece

Eh... Bleach has fast characters but they lack in the durability department.

Sharingan can easily keep up with them and predict the movements before they happen.

They have more durability than Yama-jii seemingly impregnable defense while in Bankai?

#28 Posted by solesamurai (591 posts) - - Show Bio

@No_Trolling said:

The creator of Ninjutsu. The God of Ninja. The Sage of Six Paths solos.

No feats = No solo

#29 Posted by CerberusPrime3k (950 posts) - - Show Bio

@solesamurai said:

@No_Trolling said:

The creator of Ninjutsu. The God of Ninja. The Sage of Six Paths solos.

No feats = No solo

Would you say that for TOAA?

#30 Posted by solesamurai (591 posts) - - Show Bio

@CerberusPrime3k said:

@solesamurai said:

@No_Trolling said:

The creator of Ninjutsu. The God of Ninja. The Sage of Six Paths solos.

No feats = No solo

Would you say that for TOAA?

TOAA is an omnipotent being, he doesn't need feats in order to have his power scaled, since being Omnipotent nothing is more powerful than him. The Sage of the six Paths is completely different. Him being Mortal alone requires for him to have feats to be scaled.

#31 Posted by CerberusPrime3k (950 posts) - - Show Bio

@solesamurai said:

@CerberusPrime3k said:

@solesamurai said:

@No_Trolling said:

The creator of Ninjutsu. The God of Ninja. The Sage of Six Paths solos.

No feats = No solo

Would you say that for TOAA?

TOAA is an omnipotent being, he doesn't need feats in order to have his power scaled, since being Omnipotent nothing is more powerful than him. The Sage of the six Paths is completely different. Him being Mortal alone requires for him to have feats to be scaled.

Well these are the feats of Sosp

1. He created the moon

2. He suppressed the Jubi

3. He divided the Jubi into 9 extremely powerful beasts

4. He's the founder of ninjutsu

Nagato makes an imperfect chibaku tensei and comments that it's nothing compared to what the Sosp could do

Madara could effortlessly cast down 2 meteors another representation of the power of the Renningan whom the Sosp is the original owner of

even the Tailed beast confirm that the Sosp created them during their little moment with Naruto

#32 Posted by sandiego008 (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Stegman: I would give in and say that he could alter A mind ... but not all of theirs at once since they are intangable. I find it hard to believe that one could use Genjutsu to multiple minds of intangibles.

Not to mention morals off ... guys are going light speed and lighting speed speed blitz ... 2 people on team one piece could potentially solo .. unless you can show me people in naruto/bleach that react to faster than light/lighting speed.

#33 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3499 posts) - - Show Bio
@CerberusPrime3k

@XImpossibruX said:

@nickzambuto: Holy Shonen Trinity (Naruto, Luffy, Bleach)

@jeanroygrant said:

@XImpossibruX said:

Naruto is currently the strongest of the HST. That universe wins.

  1. Bleach
  2. Naruto
  3. One Piece

Eh... Bleach has fast characters but they lack in the durability department.

Sharingan can easily keep up with them and predict the movements before they happen.

Not really Most bleach characters are faster than Minato whom is and still is the fasted character in Naruto

secondly the Sharingan has difficulty tracking fast movement this has been gone over in another thread that happened around here not too long ago

think it was Itachi vs Minato and the general consensus agreed that Itachi would be incapable of tracking his movements via sharingan and He'd be more inclined to rely on his Susanoo because Minato is massively faster than himself.

Sharingan does specialize in predicting opponent movements and tracking fast objects. But ur right, the sharingan can't keep up with someone like minato
#34 Posted by SpeedForceSpider (902 posts) - - Show Bio

@CerberusPrime3k said:

My team

Nagato (Prime)

Madara Current(but not immortal for this fight)

Current Naruto

Hashirama Senju (Prime)

Orochimaru

3rd Raikage

Itachi (Prime)

Kazuku

Tobirama Senju

Nice team.

#35 Posted by The Stegman (24384 posts) - - Show Bio
@sandiego008:  
 
 Well, there's more than one person in the Naruto universe that can use Genjutsu, for instance a team of  
 
-Itachi  
-Danzo  
-Sasuke  
-Madara Uchiha  
-Tobi/ Obito   (who can also become intangible)
-Kakashi who can seal others away in a different dimension with Kamui
 
Could all be aiming Genjutsu at them, Danzo can use Izanagi to alter reality, reversing any damage he  receives, Itachi can uses Izanami to trap a person in an endless loop of  hallucinations  (which unlike Tsukoyomi, doesn't have to be maintained). And I don't see how being intangible (assuming you're meaning the Logia devil fruit users) will stop them from being affected by it.  
 
Lastly, as for the speed, only one character in OP that I know of, goes at Light speed, and that's Kizaru, and one moving at the speed of lightning, Enel, everyone else are hypersonic at best.  The OP states morals off, not bloodlusted, meaning that both teams will be willing to kill, if you keep in character, the One Piece team will at least look at the other team, which will already trap some of them in genjutsu
#36 Posted by nishi99 (385 posts) - - Show Bio

Team

Rikudou Sennin

Madara Uchiha

Nagato Uzumaki

Itachi Uchiha

Minato Namikaze

Obito Uchiha

Hashirama Senju

Orochimaru

Sasuke Uchiha

Shisui Uchiha

#37 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (17364 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandiego008 said:

@jeanroygrant: You put onepiece on bottom ... I made my team, if you think you can build a team to beat it using either naruto or bleach feel free. But I don't think you will be able to due to onepiece characters becoming intangible. Naruto and bleach characters manipulate elements, while one piece characters become them.

Luffy, Black Beard, Bartholomew kuma, Eneru, Smoke, Boa, crocodile, akainu, Aokiji, rayliegh

How About this:

NARUTO:

1.Sage of six Paths

2.First Hokage

3.Madara Uchiha

4.Minato Namikaze

5.Uchiha Sasuke

6.Uzumaki Naruto

7.Uchiha Itachi

8.Gaara

9.Tobi (Now try and hit him.)

10.Pain

BLEACH

1.Kurosaki Ichigo

2.Captain commander

3.Aizen

4.Urahara Kisuke

5.Kurosaki Isshin.

6.Byakuya Kuchiki

7.Barragan

8.ulquiorra

9.Stark

10.zaraki

#38 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

@sandiego008 said:

@jeanroygrant: You put onepiece on bottom ... I made my team, if you think you can build a team to beat it using either naruto or bleach feel free. But I don't think you will be able to due to onepiece characters becoming intangible. Naruto and bleach characters manipulate elements, while one piece characters become them.

Luffy, Black Beard, Bartholomew kuma, Eneru, Smoke, Boa, crocodile, akainu, Aokiji, rayliegh

How About this:

NARUTO:

1.Sage of six Paths

2.First Hokage

3.Madara Uchiha

4.Minato Namikaze

5.Uchiha Sasuke

6.Uzumaki Naruto

7.Uchiha Itachi

8.Gaara

9.Tobi (Now try and hit him.)

10.Pain

BLEACH

1.Kurosaki Ichigo

2.Captain commander

3.Aizen

4.Urahara Kisuke

5.Kurosaki Isshin.

6.Byakuya Kuchiki

7.Barragan

8.ulquiorra

9.Stark

10.zaraki

That's not even Naruto's strongest characters.

Where's the 2nd hokage hokage?

Where's the 3rd hokage?

#39 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (17364 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok. So6p is the strongest. Followed by first and madara. About second, He used space/time and water is all that I remember about him. (Though that tsunami was cool enough to put him on the list, its a list of 10 :( ) 3rd was good, but I thought I should use 4th, faster and also has the death seal.

Gaara, so he can use what none of the others can.

Tobi because he can be intangible. I was thinking of replacing him with Kakashi for his super eye technique, but remembered that the eye was actually Tobi's and he may be able to do it, if he can do it to his own body..

Naruto coz of Sage mode, Kyubi and what not.. and Sasuke cause he is supposedly as strong as naruto.. (Hoping so.)

Itachi: Sharingan, Tsukoyami, fire jutsus, normal genjutsus, and most imp, susano with permanant sealing. There is the answer.

Pein: giving life to numerous people, repelling and attracting everything, summoning, absorption of elements and chakra (wonder if it will work on haki..) and all the cool tricks he has in his bag. "we are pain. we are god."

there you have it..

#40 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

Ok. So6p is the strongest. Followed by first and madara. About second, He used space/time and water is all that I remember about him. (Though that tsunami was cool enough to put him on the list, its a list of 10 :( ) 3rd was good, but I thought I should use 4th, faster and also has the death seal.

Gaara, so he can use what none of the others can.

Tobi because he can be intangible. I was thinking of replacing him with Kakashi for his super eye technique, but remembered that the eye was actually Tobi's and he may be able to do it, if he can do it to his own body..

Naruto coz of Sage mode, Kyubi and what not.. and Sasuke cause he is supposedly as strong as naruto.. (Hoping so.)

Itachi: Sharingan, Tsukoyami, fire jutsus, normal genjutsus, and most imp, susano with permanant sealing. There is the answer.

Pein: giving life to numerous people, repelling and attracting everything, summoning, absorption of elements and chakra (wonder if it will work on haki..) and all the cool tricks he has in his bag. "we are pain. we are god."

there you have it..

I see, nice list (y)

#41 Posted by morgrim (1029 posts) - - Show Bio

MY one piece team

1} Rayliegh

2} White beard {prime}

3} Admiral akainu

4} Admiral kizaru

5} Admiral akoji

6} Blackbeard

7} Boa Hancock

8} Bartholomew kuma

9} Hawkeye

10} Gold roger{feel free to speculate his powerlevel on the basis that he was deemed even more powerfull than whitebeard}

#42 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (4039 posts) - - Show Bio

All you need is 10 Uchihas or 10 Edo characters

/thread

#43 Posted by SwordandShields (712 posts) - - Show Bio

one intense fight is 'bout to take place. can't wait.

#44 Posted by SwordandShields (712 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto:

1.Madara Uchiha,(Multiple Susano'o)

2.Hashirama Senju,(Medical Ninja)

3.Tobirama Senju,(Summoning Reincarnation)

4.Minato Namikaze,(Flying Thunder God Technique)

5.Itachi Uchiha,(Genjutsu)

6.Jariaya,(Sage Mode)

7.Naruto Uzumaki,(Kiyubi)

8.Nagato(Six Paths of Pain),

9.Mū,(Invisibility)

10.Tobi/Obito(Intangibility)

#45 Edited by ALMIGHTY (601 posts) - - Show Bio

1) Sage Of Six Paths (Whatever he wants)

2) The Ten Tails (Jubbi Bomb From Hell)

3) Current/Immortal Madara (100 Perfect Sussanoo Clones) ( Meteor Technique)

4) Kuramma Mode Naruto ( 100 Bijju Bombs from clones)

5) Tobi/Obito (Izanagi and Intangibility).

6) Sauske EMS (Izanami/Izanagi, Amaterasu, Susanoo WITH NO RESTRICTION)

7) Mu (Kekkei tota, Invisibility)

8) Harishima Senju (Wood Style Ninjutsu, Immense Chakra, Sealing techniques)

9) Minato Namikaze ( Flying Thunder God Technique, Reaper Death Seal)

10) Itachi ( Izanagi/Izanami, Shisui's eye, Tsykyomi, Totsuka Blade, Yata Mirror)

THIS is Naruto's strongest team...

#46 Posted by SwordandShields (712 posts) - - Show Bio

@ALMIGHTY: One Piece is going down. Although Nagato(Six Paths of Pain) is stronger than Kakashi.

#47 Posted by ALMIGHTY (601 posts) - - Show Bio

@SwordandShields said:

@ALMIGHTY: One Piece is going down. Although Nagato(Six Paths of Pain) is stronger than Kakashi.

True that but, Kamui is why I choose Kakashi...

Also because of his intelligence and tactics...

#48 Posted by sandiego008 (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

No one is making a case on how all of these guys are taking down intangible opponents w/o haki. Minus the few in naruto that can do it.

Not to mention 2 people on onepiece who are literally light speed and lighting speed.

#49 Posted by SwordandShields (712 posts) - - Show Bio

@ALMIGHTY: Thats true for Kakashi's skill and tactics but i also chose Jiraiya and Mu who is obviously stronger than Kakashi. So replace Kakashi with Nagato or Jiraiya. btw i think with the Sage of Six Paths, he should just control Ten Tails instead of having it as an entire being by it self.

#50 Posted by ALMIGHTY (601 posts) - - Show Bio

@SwordandShields: True that I'm editing my list now..