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@mee09:

Then he's useless, he can't attack him as a consciousness, especially since Iceman is highly resistant to TP.

I can see why Comic vs Manga battles are banned now, because Manga characters are massively overrated. These guys are city levellers that you are saying can solo a planetary character o_O

I'm done here.

I know DB/Z/GT vs. anyone outside of their universe is banned, but as far as I know, Comic vs. Manga is currently allowed.

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@rulerofthevine: Well for some reason this guy believes that Iceman is going to freeze a spiritual entity. Although Izangi wouldn't need to be used here. And I doubt Madara could edo-revive an entire universe. I do not even think he can use Izangi.

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Well actually, iceman can exist in steam form, good look touching him then.

To use it he needs to think, not that it matters because iceman can keep on freezing him.

Steam is still touchable... it's bunch of molecules.

No he does not, do you read Naruto ? Izanagi is a power that brings the dead user back to life, since when can dead people think ?

Sosp has the power to control the borders between reality and illusion, he can turn his imagination into reality.

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#54  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@theking47: by what logic is sage of six paths, or any juubi jinchuriki just a city leveller exactly? Mind sharing your definition of 'city leveller'?

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@theking47: All you did was low-ball an entire universe so yeah be gone with you. The Sage of the 6 Paths is definitely not useless. He is still conscious and is chakra incarnate. If your saying he could solo the entire Naruto Universe. Then he has to deal with The Sage of the 6 Paths as well.

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#57  Edited By Rulerofthevine

@mee09 said:

@rulerofthevine: Well for some reason this guy believes that Iceman is going to freeze a spiritual entity. Although Izangi wouldn't need to be used here. And I doubt Madara could edo-revive an entire universe. I do not even think he can use Izangi.

He can :

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And he won't revive them as Edo, he will use Rinne tensei (like Nagato)

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No he does not, do you read Naruto ? Izanagi is a power that brings the dead user back to life, since when can dead people think ?

Sosp has the power to control the borders between reality and illusion, he can turn his imagination into reality.

This doesn't sound right.

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No he does not, do you read Naruto ? Izanagi is a power that brings the dead user back to life, since when can dead people think ?

Sosp has the power to control the borders between reality and illusion, he can turn his imagination into reality.

This doesn't sound right.

What doesn't ?

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@theking47: 'just a conscious' changes what, exactly? And even without him, how exactly is a juubi jinchuriki, and more so, kaguya, or rikudou mode duo, how are you classifying them as "city levellers"?

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#61  Edited By Rulerofthevine

@mee09:

Then he's useless, he can't attack him as a consciousness, especially since Iceman is highly resistant to TP.

I can see why Comic vs Manga battles are banned now, because Manga characters are massively overrated. These guys are city levellers that you are saying can solo a planetary character o_O

I'm done here.

Bro... Naruto and Sasuke just created a moon (literally) and you think they are just city leveler ? lol

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@mysticmedivh said:

No he does not, do you read Naruto ? Izanagi is a power that brings the dead user back to life, since when can dead people think ?

Sosp has the power to control the borders between reality and illusion, he can turn his imagination into reality.

This doesn't sound right.

What doesn't ?

My Naruto knowledge is a bit rusty, but I know Izanagi allows you to cheat death. From what I've seen, you can't use it to bring the dead back to life like the reanimation jutsu. If you can find scans though that would be great!

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@rulerofthevine: That is impressive. I had no idea Madara could do that. I guess Madara could very well use Rinne Tensei.

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#64  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@mysticmedivh: well, it is rusty, actually. :)

@mee09: Madara rewrote reality to resurrect himself after he died. That's how he survived VotE

And when itachi explained izanami origins, uchiha were shown using it to resurrect their comrades killed by senju

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My Naruto knowledge is a bit rusty, but I know Izanagi allows you to cheat death. From what I've seen, you can't use it to bring the dead back to life like the reanimation jutsu. If you can find scans though that would be great!

Yes Izanagi does revive the user (that's what I said), Rinne tensei revives whoever you want :

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@mysticmedivh: well, it is rusty, actually. :)

@mee09: Madara rewrote reality to resurrect himself after he died. That's how he survived VotE

And when itachi explained izanami origins, uchiha were shown using it to resurrect their comrades killed by senju

@mysticmedivh said:

My Naruto knowledge is a bit rusty, but I know Izanagi allows you to cheat death. From what I've seen, you can't use it to bring the dead back to life like the reanimation jutsu. If you can find scans though that would be great!

Yes Izanagi does revive the user (that's what I said), Rinne tensei revives whoever you want :

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Thanks for the info. Now my knowledge will be a little less rusty. :D

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@princearagorn1: He is probably not all that informed on Naruto so try and cut king some slack. The people he was referring too are definitely not "city levelers" though. And I don't see what is stopping Iceman from being even soul stealed. Guys in Naruto can summon intangible spirits that would forcibly take his consciousness away from him and anything else his consciousness is in. Iceman isn't solo'ing a universe with spiritual fighters in it.

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@rulerofthevine said:

@mysticmedivh said:

No he does not, do you read Naruto ? Izanagi is a power that brings the dead user back to life, since when can dead people think ?

Sosp has the power to control the borders between reality and illusion, he can turn his imagination into reality.

This doesn't sound right.

What doesn't ?

My Naruto knowledge is a bit rusty, but I know Izanagi allows you to cheat death. From what I've seen, you can't use it to bring the dead back to life like the reanimation jutsu. If you can find scans though that would be great!

Izanagi is personal scale reality warping. It can make missed attacks hit, hit attacks miss, enhance the efficacy of your attacks, decrease the efficacy of your opponent's attacks, etc. It really is just pure reality warping. Just on a very small scale.


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@deathhero61: guy owns ice man due. Have u seen him go all 8 gates? He didn even die after using it (thanx to naruto) I'll even go as far as saying just 7 gates guy would own him

Dragon sage kabuto would also murder magneto...he faced both (Edo) itachi and ems sasuke... With little effort.

Nope nope nope. Flash Freeze. GG.

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@deathhero61: why would you of all people bump to quote that pointless comment lol.

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#73  Edited By A1l_S2a3m4E5N

1) Naruto vs. Daredevil

2) Sasuke vs. Blade

3) Sakura vs. Electra

4) Kakashi vs. Carnage

5) Sai vs. Ghost Rider

6) Yamato vs. Invisible Woman

7) Shikamaru vs. Bullseye

8) Rock Lee vs. Gambit

9) Neji vs. Hawkeye

10) Guy vs. Iceman

11) Tsunade vs. Black Cat

12) Jiraiya vs. Deadpool

13) Gaara vs. Ironman

14) Deidara vs. Cyclops

15) Sasori vs. Mystique

16) Kisame vs. Lizard

17) Itachi vs. Apocalypse

18) Kabuto vs. Magneto

19) Orochimaru vs. Dr. Doom

Wow!....this is....uh, a... a beatdown in favour of the Narutoverse. Except maybe Iron man.

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@theking47: I must annoy you over the city level again.

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@mee09:

Then he's useless, he can't attack him as a consciousness, especially since Iceman is highly resistant to TP.

I can see why Comic vs Manga battles are banned now, because Manga characters are massively overrated. These guys are city levellers that you are saying can solo a planetary character o_O

I'm done here.

I agree with you to an extent. Its not impossible for a city buster to beat a planet buster. Hax/versatile abilities come into play which can give a character with low destructive out put a win against a character with higher destructive out put. Overall yae naruto characters get overrated a lot.

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@nyas: yea, I was wondering

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Gai beats ice-man via 6th gate (asakujaku) speedblitz before he can do anything. Or 8th gate beatdown like he did with Madara. Fire is the one thing that can be used against ice. Asakujaku is an attack in which Gai punches an opponent about 100 times in like 5 secs which causes a spontenous emmition of fire from his arms due to friction (viscosity) of punched air.

Sai could use fuin jutsu koshi tandan (sealing technique crouching tiger) to seal Ghost Rider.

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#81  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@those_eyes: carry on. How exactly do you classify naruto characters as 'city level'?

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Bolded win, Naruto Universe takes majority.

1) Naruto vs. Daredevil

2) Sasuke vs. Blade

3) Sakura vs. Electra

4) Kakashi vs. Carnage

5) Sai vs. Ghost Rider

6) Yamato vs. Invisible Woman

7) Shikamaru vs. Bullseye

8) Rock Lee vs. Gambit

9) Neji vs. Hawkeye

10) Guy vs. Iceman

11) Tsunade vs. Black Cat

12) Jiraiya vs. Deadpool

13) Gaara vs. Ironman

14) Deidara vs. Cyclops

15) Sasori vs. Mystique

16) Kisame vs. Lizard

17) Itachi vs. Apocalypse

18) Kabuto vs. Magneto

19) Orochimaru vs. Dr. Doom

tis pretty much it just change

Jiraiya vs. Deadpool

Gaara vs. Ironman

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@a1l_s2a3m4e5n: no Gai's Fire is no where near great enough to defeat iceman. What's to stop him from extinguishing them? You know Iceman controls heat energy which is why he can control ice

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#84  Edited By those_eyes

@those_eyes: carry on. How exactly do you classify naruto characters as 'city level'?

Meh i was actually kinda just going off of what others say a bout them being city bust. But i heard 9 tales can destroy mountain/cities with just his tail and saw some scans of them destroying a mountain in the manga.

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Anways what i was getting at is the hax aspect of versatility can overcome destructive output. Like sasukse's powers where if you look at him any attack you perform will be reversed back at you and you wont really notice.

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1) Naruto vs. Daredevil

2) Sasuke vs. Blade

3) Sakura vs. Electra

4) Kakashi vs. Carnage

5) Sai vs. Ghost Rider

6) Yamato vs. Invisible Woman Unless its Morals off

7) Shikamaru vs. Bullseye

8) Rock Lee vs. Gambit

9) Neji vs. Hawkeye

10) Guy vs. Iceman Iceman reaction speed?

11) Tsunade vs. Black Cat

12) Jiraiya vs. Deadpool

13) Gaara vs. Ironman

14) Deidara vs. Cyclops

15) Sasori vs. Mystique

16) Kisame vs. Lizard

17) Itachi vs. Apocalypse

18) Kabuto vs. Magneto

19) Orochimaru vs. Dr. Doom

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Ice man may be strong but the sage is living energy/chakra who can exist on the physical plane anytime he wishes to and give living individuals a enough power to create a new moon casually. Ice man can't freeze him because he's not physically there.

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I never said Gai would shoot fire balls at him i meant literally beating him to death at >mac-bullsh*t< the same way he beat Madara's ass into the ground.

In terms of durability

Madara>Naruto

And Naruto can tank 5 mountain busters without getting a scratch and that was kyubi chakra mode, Madara has the ten tails. And even with ten-tails chakra mode Gais 8 gate attacks nearly wrecked him. Ice man is no where near as durable or as fast as rikudou Madara. So with this analysis mr ice-boy dies.

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@a1l_s2a3m4e5n: doesn't matter he has no way of putting him down

1. His fire won't do jack diddly

2. Physical attacks on iceman are useless as he will just reform

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Dude Gai could literally destroy him with hirudara or NIGHT MOTH (recall: that Madara is immensely more durable than Iceman and nightmoth melted half his body and via "power scaling" Madara is a nuke level durability and a kick from Gai melted half his body, not that he broke him into bits he melted Madara's body into nothing...Ice man is only as durable as a huge huge block of ice, he can reform from being broken apart BUT can he regenerate from being disintegrated to nothing as in sublimated like Madara? i dont' think so...unless he can come back from being completely "disintegrated".

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@those_eyes: that was about mid way in the series lol. By now, their attacks have been observable on planetary curvature. In the latest chapter, naruto -sasuke's jutsu, literally, ripped out a moon sized structure from ground. Sage of six paths, arguably at the weakest point in his life, created the actual moon. Even Madara, with a fraction of sage's power, tp'd the entire planet, and his wood release reached across the planet. Kaguya is practically madara one level advanced. These guys hardly classify as city level..

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@those_eyes: that was about mid way in the series lol. By now, their attacks have been observable on planetary curvature. In the latest chapter, naruto -sasuke's jutsu, literally, ripped out a moon sized structure from ground. Sage of six paths, arguably at the weakest point in his life, created the actual moon. Even Madara, with a fraction of sage's power, tp'd the entire planet, and his wood release reached across the planet. Kaguya is practically madara one level advanced. These guys hardly classify as city level..

I was mainly referencing @theking47 who was saying naruto characters cant compare to planetary characters. He said naruto characters were city level. My point was just because someone has planetary level destructive output doesn't mean they can automatically beat someone with city to country level destructive output.

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Naruto characters win a majority.

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@jeanroygrant said:

Bolded win, Naruto Universe takes majority.

1) Naruto vs. Daredevil

2) Sasuke vs. Blade

3) Sakura vs. Electra

4) Kakashi vs. Carnage

5) Sai vs. Ghost Rider

6) Yamato vs. Invisible Woman

7) Shikamaru vs. Bullseye

8) Rock Lee vs. Gambit

9) Neji vs. Hawkeye

10) Guy vs. Iceman

11) Tsunade vs. Black Cat

12) Jiraiya vs. Deadpool

13) Gaara vs. Ironman

14) Deidara vs. Cyclops

15) Sasori vs. Mystique

16) Kisame vs. Lizard

17) Itachi vs. Apocalypse

18) Kabuto vs. Magneto

19) Orochimaru vs. Dr. Doom

tis pretty much it just change

Jiraiya vs. Deadpool

Gaara vs. Ironman

Yeah... no. Jiraya is on a whole nother' level than deadpool. He can also seal him IIRC

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@those_eyes: okay. I keep changing from one side to other on the issue, generally of the thought that hax should not work when there's a difference of sheer class of power. It's just an opinion though. But we do have examples to the contrary, so it mainly depends on plot or op.

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Not from being turned into nothing he can't...

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@those_eyes: okay. I keep changing from one side to other on the issue, generally of the thought that hax should not work when there's a difference of sheer class of power. It's just an opinion though. But we do have examples to the contrary, so it mainly depends on plot or op.

True.

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@a1l_s2a3m4e5n: yea he can from taking the moisture out the air he can reform himself from nothing

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dude has he ever come back from nothing?

AND IF YES, POST SCANS.

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dude has he ever come back from nothing?

AND IF YES, POST SCANS.