@jedisupermaster said:
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@what_diick said:
@jedisupermaster: the current naruto is faster dodging space time portals from kayuga that happen instantaneous.
Current naruto is too powerful for guy even in 8 gates.
How is he faster when he had problems with 10 tails Madara who was clearly speedblitzed by 8 gate Guy? No way is he faster than 8 gate Guy who, as i mentioned before, was so fast he distored a space itself. He is faster than both Sasuke and Naruto. And with 8 hours non-stop 8 gates he slaughters, easily.
Lmao what? What are you reading? Guy was fighting a Madara WITHOUT the full Juubi power, with 1 rinnegan and without the holyfruits power, Naruto speedblitz that same Madara just as fast as Guy did the first second with his new powers with just normal tajitsu PLUS he cut down the Juubi three with one attack, plus Guy got help from Minato, Kakashi and Gaara.
Naruto was casually fighting the Madara with both Rinnegans, ALL of Juubi's power and holy fruit, speedblitzing, tanking black spears and rods which would have annihilated Guy if he got hit, tanking and fighting 4 Limbo Madara's at the same time, and casually destroying mountain size meteors.
And now Naruto is not only reacting and dodging instant teleporting atacks, he is speedblitzing so fast the target can't even teleport away.
Sorry but Guy is fodder compared to Naruto, Naruto is faster more durable more powerful in every single way, he would rape Guy in less then 10 seconds.
Naruto and Sasuke were unable to speedblitz that Madara. At the beginning Naruto used his new Rasensuriken technique, yes. But after? Madara, also not with full Juubi power at that moment, was able to use his techniques against them and even react to them. And he was unable to react to 8 gate Guy at all. Guy was speedblitzing him the whole time. So what are YOU reading?
And what 1 rinnegan is gonna do with Madaras reaction times and durability? Even with 2 rinnegans, he would be unable to react to 8 gate Guy techniques, or absorb them.
Guy got help from Minato and others only with his last Evening Elephant punch, thats all.
Casually? Madara, without full Juubis power, gave them some trouble. Even when he had only 1 rinnegan. ANd with 2 rinnegans? Oh, that fight wasnt casually for Naruto and Sasuke.
Plus, Guy was fast enough to distort space itself. Nobody in Naruto showed that kind of speed. And i want to see speed feats from Kaguya and her teleporting portal technques.
No that's just wrong, Naruto speedblitz the same Madara Guy was fighting, this happened the moment Naruto got back, and Naruto didn't need Minato to tank the black spears, Naruto was casually kicking them back, he used the Rasenshuriken AFTER he speedblitz Madara and it cut the hole three down, I didn't say Madara was at full Juubi power at that moment, he absorb the three afterwards, and yes not only was Naruto speedblitzing him at full Juubi power, so was Sasuke, Madara was lucky enough to have his Limbo Madara to tank most of the damage, Sasuke even cut him in half and Naruto sure as hell is faster then Sasuke as he proven versus Kaguya.
Madara without full Juubi did absolutly not give them any trouble, even with full Juubi Madara was being outpowered by Naruto and Sasuke, Guy was fighting a Madara without that insane regenation, without full Juubi, without both Rinnegans, without Limbo, that Madara would have been fodderized in mere seconds against Naruto.
Again, Naruto is faster then instant teleportation both in reactionspeed and movementspeed, he is faster then Guy.
Current Naruto versus max gate-Guy is a complete missmatch, Naruto stomps.
Madara dodged their attacks, used his shadows against them, moved away from them etc. With Guy he was unable to do anything except for 1 black sphere and few black spears. And that was when Guy used an Evening Elephant. When he used Night Guy the space itself was distort around him - so fast he was. And he blitzed Madara, easily. Madara was unable to react to Night Guy attack at all. So i think 8 gate Guy is faster than both Naruto and Sasuke. Do you have any proof Kaguya is faster than 10 tails Madara?
Naruto and Sasuke also fought not full Juubi Madara. Madara just had only 1 Rinnegan. And again - he fought both Naruto and Sasuke in that state and he was able to dodge their attacks, change a distance, use limbos against them etc. Plus, in a fight with Guy, he had regeneration because he had Hashirama Senjus cells fused with his body + his Sage Mode.Madara was able to react to Naruto and Sasuke but was unable to react to Guy, ecpesially when he used Night Guy. According to OP, Guy can use that attack for 8 hours. The attack Naruto, just as Madara, wont be able to react to. Guy slaughters.
Again, and again, go read the chapter where Naruto first enters the frame with his new powers, he instantly blitz Madara (without full Juubi) and previously KICKS the blacks spheres back.
Madara wasn't even using Limbo versus Guy, stop saying he was unable to react, he doesn't have to do anything to move the Limbo, it moves by itself, but the plot decided it wasn't needed, stop making up bullshit like he was "unable" to.
Madara never dodged any attacks, he wasn't fast enough, just like versus Guy, he had Limbo Madara tank the damage at the very last second because he was unable to dodge it, again stop spreading false information.
And again, after Naruto speedblitz Madara the first time, Madara absorbed the Juubi three, which means he had the full Juubi power after that, absorbing the three= Full Juubi power, period, he had the full power.
Because Naruto reacts AND moves against instant teleportation attacks, and has proven he is able to blitz the same Madara Guy was fighting, he is faster.
Madara with full Juubi could regenate his body being split in half in mere seconds, he didn't have that kind of reg versus Guy without the full Juubi.
Not to mention Naruto doesn't even HAVE to be faster to beat Guy, how will Guy deal with Naruto having 40 clones around him all sitting on a rasenshuriken? Blitz through all of them and kill himself in the process? How will Guy fight Bijuumode attacking him from range with rasenshurikens all over the place? He can't.
Naruto stomps.
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