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Round 1

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Might Guy 8th Gate

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Rules

  • Current versions
  • Guy has 8 hours of non restricted gates
  • All in character
  • Win by death/sealing ONLY

Round 2

Guy gets Sage of Six Paths Madara on his team

Same rules apply

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Location

Naruto and Sasuke start where Goku is standing & Guy starts where Cell is for round 2 Madara is standing next to Guy.

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Who wins?

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round 1 im thinking team

round 2 im thinking madara

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round 1 im thinking team

round 2 im thinking madara

Madara MVP on team 2 you think?

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Team 1

Team 2

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Naruto and Sasuke. then Guy and Madara

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Go either way

Guy and Marada

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I have to agree with everyone else.

Team1 then team 2

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everyone coulda just quted me

no needa cop-e

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Naruto and Sasuke

Guy and Madara

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everyone coulda just quted me

no needa cop-e

Lol weird I didn't see it panning out the majority of people would say Team 2 wins Round 2.

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Team 1 both rounds

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@thitiki: They NEVER actually defeated Madara...

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Round 1 goes to the team.

Round 2 looked like a tough fight with just madara there, guy should tip the scales.

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Round 1 I think Naruto and Sasuke could pull out a win and then with round 2 they'd lose

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Guy slaughters both rounds solo. After he opened 8 gates he was able to brake through black sphere that is durable enough to withstand multiple 10 tails beast bombs. He also was so fast he distorted a space around him. Plus, he speedblitzed and almost killed 10 tails Madara. And he would have killed him if he hit him in the head. He is too fast for both Sasuke and Naruto and his punches are too powerful.

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8 hours is a long time but if Naruto could make enough clones to distract Guy for Sasuke to get away and come up with a plan then they'd probably win.

Team 2 stomps round 2

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Sorry I don't know what Manga you are reading but, Naruto solo's Guy in round 1, Sasuke isn't even needed, both at the sametime and they murderstomp Guy.

Round 2 is a close call, but I'd give it to Guy and Madara.

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@jedisupermaster: the current naruto is faster dodging space time portals from kayuga that happen instantaneous.

Current naruto is too powerful for guy even in 8 gates.

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  1. Team 1
  2. Team 1
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Round 1: Team 1

Round 2: Team 2

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@jedisupermaster: the current naruto is faster dodging space time portals from kayuga that happen instantaneous.

Current naruto is too powerful for guy even in 8 gates.

How is he faster when he had problems with 10 tails Madara who was clearly speedblitzed by 8 gate Guy? No way is he faster than 8 gate Guy who, as i mentioned before, was so fast he distored a space itself. He is faster than both Sasuke and Naruto. And with 8 hours non-stop 8 gates he slaughters, easily.

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#25  Edited By Jedisupermaster

Also, theoretically, 8 gate Guy can kill Sage of 6 Paths. Sage cant react to 8 gate Guy, Sage cant protect himself from his Evening Elephant and Night Guy attacks and the most important thing - Sage cant regenerate like Madara. Madara had Hashiramas cells and thats why he survived. But even if Sage can regenerate, Guy can just hit him with his Night Guy attack in the head.

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Round 1: Naruto would have been enough to beat Guy. So Team 1.

Round 2: is a toss up but maybe Team 2 could bring a win.

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@jedisupermaster: the current naruto is faster dodging space time portals from kayuga that happen instantaneous.

Current naruto is too powerful for guy even in 8 gates.

How is he faster when he had problems with 10 tails Madara who was clearly speedblitzed by 8 gate Guy? No way is he faster than 8 gate Guy who, as i mentioned before, was so fast he distored a space itself. He is faster than both Sasuke and Naruto. And with 8 hours non-stop 8 gates he slaughters, easily.

Lmao what? What are you reading? Guy was fighting a Madara WITHOUT the full Juubi power, with 1 rinnegan and without the holyfruits power, Naruto speedblitz that same Madara just as fast as Guy did the first second with his new powers with just normal tajitsu PLUS he cut down the Juubi three with one attack, plus Guy got help from Minato, Kakashi and Gaara.

Naruto was casually fighting the Madara with both Rinnegans, ALL of Juubi's power and holy fruit, speedblitzing, tanking black spears and rods which would have annihilated Guy if he got hit, tanking and fighting 4 Limbo Madara's at the same time, and casually destroying mountain size meteors.

And now Naruto is not only reacting and dodging instant teleporting atacks, he is speedblitzing so fast the target can't even teleport away.

Sorry but Guy is fodder compared to Naruto, Naruto is faster more durable more powerful in every single way, he would rape Guy in less then 10 seconds.

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#28  Edited By Jedisupermaster

@whiteportion said:
@jedisupermaster said:

@what_diick said:

@jedisupermaster: the current naruto is faster dodging space time portals from kayuga that happen instantaneous.

Current naruto is too powerful for guy even in 8 gates.

How is he faster when he had problems with 10 tails Madara who was clearly speedblitzed by 8 gate Guy? No way is he faster than 8 gate Guy who, as i mentioned before, was so fast he distored a space itself. He is faster than both Sasuke and Naruto. And with 8 hours non-stop 8 gates he slaughters, easily.

Lmao what? What are you reading? Guy was fighting a Madara WITHOUT the full Juubi power, with 1 rinnegan and without the holyfruits power, Naruto speedblitz that same Madara just as fast as Guy did the first second with his new powers with just normal tajitsu PLUS he cut down the Juubi three with one attack, plus Guy got help from Minato, Kakashi and Gaara.

Naruto was casually fighting the Madara with both Rinnegans, ALL of Juubi's power and holy fruit, speedblitzing, tanking black spears and rods which would have annihilated Guy if he got hit, tanking and fighting 4 Limbo Madara's at the same time, and casually destroying mountain size meteors.

And now Naruto is not only reacting and dodging instant teleporting atacks, he is speedblitzing so fast the target can't even teleport away.

Sorry but Guy is fodder compared to Naruto, Naruto is faster more durable more powerful in every single way, he would rape Guy in less then 10 seconds.

Naruto and Sasuke were unable to speedblitz that Madara. At the beginning Naruto used his new Rasensuriken technique, yes. But after? Madara, also not with full Juubi power at that moment, was able to use his techniques against them and even react to them. And he was unable to react to 8 gate Guy at all. Guy was speedblitzing him the whole time. So what are YOU reading?

And what 1 rinnegan is gonna do with Madaras reaction times and durability? Even with 2 rinnegans, he would be unable to react to 8 gate Guy techniques, or absorb them.

Guy got help from Minato and others only with his last Evening Elephant punch, thats all.

Casually? Madara, without full Juubis power, gave them some trouble. Even when he had only 1 rinnegan. ANd with 2 rinnegans? Oh, that fight wasnt casually for Naruto and Sasuke.

Plus, Guy was fast enough to distort space itself. Nobody in Naruto showed that kind of speed. And i want to see speed feats from Kaguya and her teleporting portal technques.

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@jedisupermaster: Susuke's rinnegan teleportation also happens instantaneous but he couldn't dodge kayuga's portals

He's so fast he can blitz her while catching her off guard and she's a sensor capable of feeling the earth pain as it's being damaged in the war.

Her speed is proven fast too catching naruto and sasuke off guard Portal speed feat

I also wonder how fast naruto will be with the 8 gates lol just a thought.

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naruto alone would be too much for guy to handle cause unlike madara who foolishly joined all the bijuu together to form one bijuu(ten tails) naruto left then as they were and can utilize their diffrent abilities to his advantage. Guy may have been able to speedblitz madara in the 8th gate but he had help until he used the "night moth"(which distorts space allowing him to move at warp speed) to attack but naruto speed blitzed madara as well and without a chakra mode mind you. Not to mention that after gai's attack madara with half of the juubis chakra (Note: the other half was in naruto) was able to regenerate.im guessing naruto will be able to regenerate like madara and apart from that naruto has the ninshu which allows him to do instant regeneration. Adding sasuke (rinnegan and perfect susano'o) is overkill.

Madara may be able to help guy in round 2 but naruto can destroy gai in a matter of minutes and then go help sasuke (who i'm sure can hold his own against madara until naruto gets there) with madara.

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@whiteportion said:
@jedisupermaster said:

@what_diick said:

@jedisupermaster: the current naruto is faster dodging space time portals from kayuga that happen instantaneous.

Current naruto is too powerful for guy even in 8 gates.

How is he faster when he had problems with 10 tails Madara who was clearly speedblitzed by 8 gate Guy? No way is he faster than 8 gate Guy who, as i mentioned before, was so fast he distored a space itself. He is faster than both Sasuke and Naruto. And with 8 hours non-stop 8 gates he slaughters, easily.

Lmao what? What are you reading? Guy was fighting a Madara WITHOUT the full Juubi power, with 1 rinnegan and without the holyfruits power, Naruto speedblitz that same Madara just as fast as Guy did the first second with his new powers with just normal tajitsu PLUS he cut down the Juubi three with one attack, plus Guy got help from Minato, Kakashi and Gaara.

Naruto was casually fighting the Madara with both Rinnegans, ALL of Juubi's power and holy fruit, speedblitzing, tanking black spears and rods which would have annihilated Guy if he got hit, tanking and fighting 4 Limbo Madara's at the same time, and casually destroying mountain size meteors.

And now Naruto is not only reacting and dodging instant teleporting atacks, he is speedblitzing so fast the target can't even teleport away.

Sorry but Guy is fodder compared to Naruto, Naruto is faster more durable more powerful in every single way, he would rape Guy in less then 10 seconds.

Naruto and Sasuke were unable to speedblitz that Madara. At the beginning Naruto used his new Rasensuriken technique, yes. But after? Madara, also not with full Juubi power at that moment, was able to use his techniques against them and even react to them. And he was unable to react to 8 gate Guy at all. Guy was speedblitzing him the whole time. So what are YOU reading?

And what 1 rinnegan is gonna do with Madaras reaction times and durability? Even with 2 rinnegans, he would be unable to react to 8 gate Guy techniques, or absorb them.

Guy got help from Minato and others only with his last Evening Elephant punch, thats all.

Casually? Madara, without full Juubis power, gave them some trouble. Even when he had only 1 rinnegan. ANd with 2 rinnegans? Oh, that fight wasnt casually for Naruto and Sasuke.

Plus, Guy was fast enough to distort space itself. Nobody in Naruto showed that kind of speed. And i want to see speed feats from Kaguya and her teleporting portal technques.

No that's just wrong, Naruto speedblitz the same Madara Guy was fighting, this happened the moment Naruto got back, and Naruto didn't need Minato to tank the black spears, Naruto was casually kicking them back, he used the Rasenshuriken AFTER he speedblitz Madara and it cut the hole three down, I didn't say Madara was at full Juubi power at that moment, he absorb the three afterwards, and yes not only was Naruto speedblitzing him at full Juubi power, so was Sasuke, Madara was lucky enough to have his Limbo Madara to tank most of the damage, Sasuke even cut him in half and Naruto sure as hell is faster then Sasuke as he proven versus Kaguya.

Madara without full Juubi did absolutly not give them any trouble, even with full Juubi Madara was being outpowered by Naruto and Sasuke, Guy was fighting a Madara without that insane regenation, without full Juubi, without both Rinnegans, without Limbo, that Madara would have been fodderized in mere seconds against Naruto.

Again, Naruto is faster then instant teleportation both in reactionspeed and movementspeed, he is faster then Guy.

Current Naruto versus max gate-Guy is a complete missmatch, Naruto stomps.

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@whiteportion said:

@jedisupermaster said:

@whiteportion said:
@jedisupermaster said:

@what_diick said:

@jedisupermaster: the current naruto is faster dodging space time portals from kayuga that happen instantaneous.

Current naruto is too powerful for guy even in 8 gates.

How is he faster when he had problems with 10 tails Madara who was clearly speedblitzed by 8 gate Guy? No way is he faster than 8 gate Guy who, as i mentioned before, was so fast he distored a space itself. He is faster than both Sasuke and Naruto. And with 8 hours non-stop 8 gates he slaughters, easily.

Lmao what? What are you reading? Guy was fighting a Madara WITHOUT the full Juubi power, with 1 rinnegan and without the holyfruits power, Naruto speedblitz that same Madara just as fast as Guy did the first second with his new powers with just normal tajitsu PLUS he cut down the Juubi three with one attack, plus Guy got help from Minato, Kakashi and Gaara.

Naruto was casually fighting the Madara with both Rinnegans, ALL of Juubi's power and holy fruit, speedblitzing, tanking black spears and rods which would have annihilated Guy if he got hit, tanking and fighting 4 Limbo Madara's at the same time, and casually destroying mountain size meteors.

And now Naruto is not only reacting and dodging instant teleporting atacks, he is speedblitzing so fast the target can't even teleport away.

Sorry but Guy is fodder compared to Naruto, Naruto is faster more durable more powerful in every single way, he would rape Guy in less then 10 seconds.

Naruto and Sasuke were unable to speedblitz that Madara. At the beginning Naruto used his new Rasensuriken technique, yes. But after? Madara, also not with full Juubi power at that moment, was able to use his techniques against them and even react to them. And he was unable to react to 8 gate Guy at all. Guy was speedblitzing him the whole time. So what are YOU reading?

And what 1 rinnegan is gonna do with Madaras reaction times and durability? Even with 2 rinnegans, he would be unable to react to 8 gate Guy techniques, or absorb them.

Guy got help from Minato and others only with his last Evening Elephant punch, thats all.

Casually? Madara, without full Juubis power, gave them some trouble. Even when he had only 1 rinnegan. ANd with 2 rinnegans? Oh, that fight wasnt casually for Naruto and Sasuke.

Plus, Guy was fast enough to distort space itself. Nobody in Naruto showed that kind of speed. And i want to see speed feats from Kaguya and her teleporting portal technques.

No that's just wrong, Naruto speedblitz the same Madara Guy was fighting, this happened the moment Naruto got back, and Naruto didn't need Minato to tank the black spears, Naruto was casually kicking them back, he used the Rasenshuriken AFTER he speedblitz Madara and it cut the hole three down, I didn't say Madara was at full Juubi power at that moment, he absorb the three afterwards, and yes not only was Naruto speedblitzing him at full Juubi power, so was Sasuke, Madara was lucky enough to have his Limbo Madara to tank most of the damage, Sasuke even cut him in half and Naruto sure as hell is faster then Sasuke as he proven versus Kaguya.

Madara without full Juubi did absolutly not give them any trouble, even with full Juubi Madara was being outpowered by Naruto and Sasuke, Guy was fighting a Madara without that insane regenation, without full Juubi, without both Rinnegans, without Limbo, that Madara would have been fodderized in mere seconds against Naruto.

Again, Naruto is faster then instant teleportation both in reactionspeed and movementspeed, he is faster then Guy.

Current Naruto versus max gate-Guy is a complete missmatch, Naruto stomps.

Madara dodged their attacks, used his shadows against them, moved away from them etc. With Guy he was unable to do anything except for 1 black sphere and few black spears. And that was when Guy used an Evening Elephant. When he used Night Guy the space itself was distort around him - so fast he was. And he blitzed Madara, easily. Madara was unable to react to Night Guy attack at all. So i think 8 gate Guy is faster than both Naruto and Sasuke. Do you have any proof Kaguya is faster than 10 tails Madara?

Naruto and Sasuke also fought not full Juubi Madara. Madara just had only 1 Rinnegan. And again - he fought both Naruto and Sasuke in that state and he was able to dodge their attacks, change a distance, use limbos against them etc. Plus, in a fight with Guy, he had regeneration because he had Hashirama Senjus cells fused with his body + his Sage Mode.Madara was able to react to Naruto and Sasuke but was unable to react to Guy, ecpesially when he used Night Guy. According to OP, Guy can use that attack for 8 hours. The attack Naruto, just as Madara, wont be able to react to. Guy slaughters.

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@jedisupermaster: Naruto speed surpasses A.... he's by far the fastest shinobi living.

When guy can catch a PLANETARY sensor off guard with his speed then he'll be faster in my eyes.

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@jedisupermaster: Naruto speed surpasses A.... he's by far the fastest shinobi living.

When guy can catch a PLANETARY sensor off guard with his speed then he'll be faster in my eyes.

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@jedisupermaster: Naruto speed surpasses A.... he's by far the fastest shinobi living.

When guy can catch a PLANETARY sensor off guard with his speed then he'll be faster in my eyes.

No, he is not. Guy in 8 gates mode is the fastest shinobi in the world. Because no one has shown such speed. No one was able to distort space by movement. No one was able to speedblitz Madara in such manner Guy did. Night Guy attack is faster than both Naruto and Sasuke. And according to OP, he can use that attack for 8 hours. Plus, i think he can beat them with Evening Elephant. In a fight with Naruto and Sasuke Madara used limbos, changed a distance and dodged their attacks. When Guy used Evening Elephant he was forced to make a protective black sphere because he wasnt fast enough to got out of attacking line. Evening Elephant will already give them trouble. Night Guy is just too much. One Night Guy punch to take Narutos head off before he can make any clone of himself and another punch to tear Sasuke to peaces.

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@jedisupermaster: Naruto speed surpasses A.... he's by far the fastest shinobi living.

When guy can catch a PLANETARY sensor off guard with his speed then he'll be faster in my eyes.

And when a sensor ability = speed?

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@jedisupermaster: Naruto's speed surpasses the flying thunder god technique, sasuke's rinnegan teleportation, kaguya's space time portals, and A's speed.

All those moves not including A's happen instantly and for being faster then instantaneous is amazing feat by itself.

Yeah we understand guy is crazeamazeomg fast but like I said earlier kaguya could sense the whole planet being damaged in the war soo she could most likely could sense guy coming 5 countries away.

My point is that naruto CAUGHT HER OFF GUARD so either she was dead which she wasn't or naruto speed defies the laws of animated physics.

Guy couldn't even touch naruto with speed naruto possesses and if naruto could catch kaguya off guard he must be going mach 3578e10^2wtfspeed lol.

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@jedisupermaster: like cosmic awareness she could sense a planet was us stopping her from sensing guy...

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@whiteportion said:

@jedisupermaster said:

@whiteportion said:
@jedisupermaster said:

@what_diick said:

@jedisupermaster: the current naruto is faster dodging space time portals from kayuga that happen instantaneous.

Current naruto is too powerful for guy even in 8 gates.

How is he faster when he had problems with 10 tails Madara who was clearly speedblitzed by 8 gate Guy? No way is he faster than 8 gate Guy who, as i mentioned before, was so fast he distored a space itself. He is faster than both Sasuke and Naruto. And with 8 hours non-stop 8 gates he slaughters, easily.

Lmao what? What are you reading? Guy was fighting a Madara WITHOUT the full Juubi power, with 1 rinnegan and without the holyfruits power, Naruto speedblitz that same Madara just as fast as Guy did the first second with his new powers with just normal tajitsu PLUS he cut down the Juubi three with one attack, plus Guy got help from Minato, Kakashi and Gaara.

Naruto was casually fighting the Madara with both Rinnegans, ALL of Juubi's power and holy fruit, speedblitzing, tanking black spears and rods which would have annihilated Guy if he got hit, tanking and fighting 4 Limbo Madara's at the same time, and casually destroying mountain size meteors.

And now Naruto is not only reacting and dodging instant teleporting atacks, he is speedblitzing so fast the target can't even teleport away.

Sorry but Guy is fodder compared to Naruto, Naruto is faster more durable more powerful in every single way, he would rape Guy in less then 10 seconds.

Naruto and Sasuke were unable to speedblitz that Madara. At the beginning Naruto used his new Rasensuriken technique, yes. But after? Madara, also not with full Juubi power at that moment, was able to use his techniques against them and even react to them. And he was unable to react to 8 gate Guy at all. Guy was speedblitzing him the whole time. So what are YOU reading?

And what 1 rinnegan is gonna do with Madaras reaction times and durability? Even with 2 rinnegans, he would be unable to react to 8 gate Guy techniques, or absorb them.

Guy got help from Minato and others only with his last Evening Elephant punch, thats all.

Casually? Madara, without full Juubis power, gave them some trouble. Even when he had only 1 rinnegan. ANd with 2 rinnegans? Oh, that fight wasnt casually for Naruto and Sasuke.

Plus, Guy was fast enough to distort space itself. Nobody in Naruto showed that kind of speed. And i want to see speed feats from Kaguya and her teleporting portal technques.

No that's just wrong, Naruto speedblitz the same Madara Guy was fighting, this happened the moment Naruto got back, and Naruto didn't need Minato to tank the black spears, Naruto was casually kicking them back, he used the Rasenshuriken AFTER he speedblitz Madara and it cut the hole three down, I didn't say Madara was at full Juubi power at that moment, he absorb the three afterwards, and yes not only was Naruto speedblitzing him at full Juubi power, so was Sasuke, Madara was lucky enough to have his Limbo Madara to tank most of the damage, Sasuke even cut him in half and Naruto sure as hell is faster then Sasuke as he proven versus Kaguya.

Madara without full Juubi did absolutly not give them any trouble, even with full Juubi Madara was being outpowered by Naruto and Sasuke, Guy was fighting a Madara without that insane regenation, without full Juubi, without both Rinnegans, without Limbo, that Madara would have been fodderized in mere seconds against Naruto.

Again, Naruto is faster then instant teleportation both in reactionspeed and movementspeed, he is faster then Guy.

Current Naruto versus max gate-Guy is a complete missmatch, Naruto stomps.

Madara dodged their attacks, used his shadows against them, moved away from them etc. With Guy he was unable to do anything except for 1 black sphere and few black spears. And that was when Guy used an Evening Elephant. When he used Night Guy the space itself was distort around him - so fast he was. And he blitzed Madara, easily. Madara was unable to react to Night Guy attack at all. So i think 8 gate Guy is faster than both Naruto and Sasuke. Do you have any proof Kaguya is faster than 10 tails Madara?

Naruto and Sasuke also fought not full Juubi Madara. Madara just had only 1 Rinnegan. And again - he fought both Naruto and Sasuke in that state and he was able to dodge their attacks, change a distance, use limbos against them etc. Plus, in a fight with Guy, he had regeneration because he had Hashirama Senjus cells fused with his body + his Sage Mode.Madara was able to react to Naruto and Sasuke but was unable to react to Guy, ecpesially when he used Night Guy. According to OP, Guy can use that attack for 8 hours. The attack Naruto, just as Madara, wont be able to react to. Guy slaughters.

Again, and again, go read the chapter where Naruto first enters the frame with his new powers, he instantly blitz Madara (without full Juubi) and previously KICKS the blacks spheres back.

Madara wasn't even using Limbo versus Guy, stop saying he was unable to react, he doesn't have to do anything to move the Limbo, it moves by itself, but the plot decided it wasn't needed, stop making up bullshit like he was "unable" to.

Madara never dodged any attacks, he wasn't fast enough, just like versus Guy, he had Limbo Madara tank the damage at the very last second because he was unable to dodge it, again stop spreading false information.

And again, after Naruto speedblitz Madara the first time, Madara absorbed the Juubi three, which means he had the full Juubi power after that, absorbing the three= Full Juubi power, period, he had the full power.

Because Naruto reacts AND moves against instant teleportation attacks, and has proven he is able to blitz the same Madara Guy was fighting, he is faster.

Madara with full Juubi could regenate his body being split in half in mere seconds, he didn't have that kind of reg versus Guy without the full Juubi.

Not to mention Naruto doesn't even HAVE to be faster to beat Guy, how will Guy deal with Naruto having 40 clones around him all sitting on a rasenshuriken? Blitz through all of them and kill himself in the process? How will Guy fight Bijuumode attacking him from range with rasenshurikens all over the place? He can't.

Naruto stomps.

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Round 1: Naruto and Sasuke easily.

Round 2: Naruto and Sasuke if Madara only has 1 rinnegan. If he has two then it would be close, but I am not sure who would win at this point.

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@jedisupermaster: the current naruto is faster dodging space time portals from kayuga that happen instantaneous.

Current naruto is too powerful for guy even in 8 gates.

How is he faster when he had problems with 10 tails Madara who was clearly speedblitzed by 8 gate Guy? No way is he faster than 8 gate Guy who, as i mentioned before, was so fast he distored a space itself. He is faster than both Sasuke and Naruto. And with 8 hours non-stop 8 gates he slaughters, easily.

Lmao what? What are you reading? Guy was fighting a Madara WITHOUT the full Juubi power, with 1 rinnegan and without the holyfruits power, Naruto speedblitz that same Madara just as fast as Guy did the first second with his new powers with just normal tajitsu PLUS he cut down the Juubi three with one attack, plus Guy got help from Minato, Kakashi and Gaara.

Naruto was casually fighting the Madara with both Rinnegans, ALL of Juubi's power and holy fruit, speedblitzing, tanking black spears and rods which would have annihilated Guy if he got hit, tanking and fighting 4 Limbo Madara's at the same time, and casually destroying mountain size meteors.

And now Naruto is not only reacting and dodging instant teleporting atacks, he is speedblitzing so fast the target can't even teleport away.

Sorry but Guy is fodder compared to Naruto, Naruto is faster more durable more powerful in every single way, he would rape Guy in less then 10 seconds.

Naruto and Sasuke were unable to speedblitz that Madara. At the beginning Naruto used his new Rasensuriken technique, yes. But after? Madara, also not with full Juubi power at that moment, was able to use his techniques against them and even react to them. And he was unable to react to 8 gate Guy at all. Guy was speedblitzing him the whole time. So what are YOU reading?

And what 1 rinnegan is gonna do with Madaras reaction times and durability? Even with 2 rinnegans, he would be unable to react to 8 gate Guy techniques, or absorb them.

Guy got help from Minato and others only with his last Evening Elephant punch, thats all.

Casually? Madara, without full Juubis power, gave them some trouble. Even when he had only 1 rinnegan. ANd with 2 rinnegans? Oh, that fight wasnt casually for Naruto and Sasuke.

Plus, Guy was fast enough to distort space itself. Nobody in Naruto showed that kind of speed. And i want to see speed feats from Kaguya and her teleporting portal technques.

No that's just wrong, Naruto speedblitz the same Madara Guy was fighting, this happened the moment Naruto got back, and Naruto didn't need Minato to tank the black spears, Naruto was casually kicking them back, he used the Rasenshuriken AFTER he speedblitz Madara and it cut the hole three down, I didn't say Madara was at full Juubi power at that moment, he absorb the three afterwards, and yes not only was Naruto speedblitzing him at full Juubi power, so was Sasuke, Madara was lucky enough to have his Limbo Madara to tank most of the damage, Sasuke even cut him in half and Naruto sure as hell is faster then Sasuke as he proven versus Kaguya.

Madara without full Juubi did absolutly not give them any trouble, even with full Juubi Madara was being outpowered by Naruto and Sasuke, Guy was fighting a Madara without that insane regenation, without full Juubi, without both Rinnegans, without Limbo, that Madara would have been fodderized in mere seconds against Naruto.

Again, Naruto is faster then instant teleportation both in reactionspeed and movementspeed, he is faster then Guy.

Current Naruto versus max gate-Guy is a complete missmatch, Naruto stomps.

Madara dodged their attacks, used his shadows against them, moved away from them etc. With Guy he was unable to do anything except for 1 black sphere and few black spears. And that was when Guy used an Evening Elephant. When he used Night Guy the space itself was distort around him - so fast he was. And he blitzed Madara, easily. Madara was unable to react to Night Guy attack at all. So i think 8 gate Guy is faster than both Naruto and Sasuke. Do you have any proof Kaguya is faster than 10 tails Madara?

Naruto and Sasuke also fought not full Juubi Madara. Madara just had only 1 Rinnegan. And again - he fought both Naruto and Sasuke in that state and he was able to dodge their attacks, change a distance, use limbos against them etc. Plus, in a fight with Guy, he had regeneration because he had Hashirama Senjus cells fused with his body + his Sage Mode.Madara was able to react to Naruto and Sasuke but was unable to react to Guy, ecpesially when he used Night Guy. According to OP, Guy can use that attack for 8 hours. The attack Naruto, just as Madara, wont be able to react to. Guy slaughters.

Again, and again, go read the chapter where Naruto first enters the frame with his new powers, he instantly blitz Madara (without full Juubi) and previously KICKS the blacks spheres back.

Madara wasn't even using Limbo versus Guy, stop saying he was unable to react, he doesn't have to do anything to move the Limbo, it moves by itself, but the plot decided it wasn't needed, stop making up bullshit like he was "unable" to.

Madara never dodged any attacks, he wasn't fast enough, just like versus Guy, he had Limbo Madara tank the damage at the very last second because he was unable to dodge it, again stop spreading false information.

And again, after Naruto speedblitz Madara the first time, Madara absorbed the Juubi three, which means he had the full Juubi power after that, absorbing the three= Full Juubi power, period, he had the full power.

Because Naruto reacts AND moves against instant teleportation attacks, and has proven he is able to blitz the same Madara Guy was fighting, he is faster.

Madara with full Juubi could regenate his body being split in half in mere seconds, he didn't have that kind of reg versus Guy without the full Juubi.

Not to mention Naruto doesn't even HAVE to be faster to beat Guy, how will Guy deal with Naruto having 40 clones around him all sitting on a rasenshuriken? Blitz through all of them and kill himself in the process? How will Guy fight Bijuumode attacking him from range with rasenshurikens all over the place? He can't.

Naruto stomps.

I think its better for you to read it by yourself. Yeah, Naruto hit him with that lava rasensuriken. But what was after? After that, Madara was able to fight them, change a distance, use his techniques, limbos etc. Maybe Naruto "blitzed" him because Madara was very surprised by what Naruto did before.

He used limbo against them and got away. He was fast enough for that. Against Guy, when he used Night Guy, he didnt do anything because he wasnt fast enough for that. After that punch he told that he fought he was done. That means before Night Guy made contact he would do anything to protect against it. But he did nothing. Thatmeans he was unable to. And he was surprised by Guys speed and by his space distortion. By OP, he can use Night Guy attack all the time. And when did he absorbed the Juubi tree? I dont remember that. I remember that he heared a voice saying to him "absorb me" or something. But did he eraly absorbed Juubi tree?

Madara was able to react to them. he used limbos and changed the distance. Against Guy, he wasnt able to do anything when he used Night Guy attack. And his body wasnt split in half. It was when Sasuke cut him in half and he needed some time to get new legs.

Naruto can be not fast enough to make clones. Plus, Guy can use Night Guy for 8 hours.

Naruto doesnt stomp by any means.

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Yall say guy is faster but naruto dodged things that happen instantly against kaguya guy was fighting madara who had attacks that were less faster.

Minato once got caught in portal technique but he escaped with his flying thunder god technique even when he partially got sucked in.

But naurto completely dodged a immensely faster version.

Catching a powerful sensor ofg guard

Dodging attacks from raikages

Kakashi got saved but naruto and he thought it was the 4th hokage

Does guy have any other speed feats besides disorienting space when he attacked.

And 8 gates puts your body in soooo much pain that even being touched will hurt... Naruto lava rasengan will obliterate guy.

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@whiteportion said:

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@jedisupermaster: the current naruto is faster dodging space time portals from kayuga that happen instantaneous.

Current naruto is too powerful for guy even in 8 gates.

How is he faster when he had problems with 10 tails Madara who was clearly speedblitzed by 8 gate Guy? No way is he faster than 8 gate Guy who, as i mentioned before, was so fast he distored a space itself. He is faster than both Sasuke and Naruto. And with 8 hours non-stop 8 gates he slaughters, easily.

Lmao what? What are you reading? Guy was fighting a Madara WITHOUT the full Juubi power, with 1 rinnegan and without the holyfruits power, Naruto speedblitz that same Madara just as fast as Guy did the first second with his new powers with just normal tajitsu PLUS he cut down the Juubi three with one attack, plus Guy got help from Minato, Kakashi and Gaara.

Naruto was casually fighting the Madara with both Rinnegans, ALL of Juubi's power and holy fruit, speedblitzing, tanking black spears and rods which would have annihilated Guy if he got hit, tanking and fighting 4 Limbo Madara's at the same time, and casually destroying mountain size meteors.

And now Naruto is not only reacting and dodging instant teleporting atacks, he is speedblitzing so fast the target can't even teleport away.

Sorry but Guy is fodder compared to Naruto, Naruto is faster more durable more powerful in every single way, he would rape Guy in less then 10 seconds.

Naruto and Sasuke were unable to speedblitz that Madara. At the beginning Naruto used his new Rasensuriken technique, yes. But after? Madara, also not with full Juubi power at that moment, was able to use his techniques against them and even react to them. And he was unable to react to 8 gate Guy at all. Guy was speedblitzing him the whole time. So what are YOU reading?

And what 1 rinnegan is gonna do with Madaras reaction times and durability? Even with 2 rinnegans, he would be unable to react to 8 gate Guy techniques, or absorb them.

Guy got help from Minato and others only with his last Evening Elephant punch, thats all.

Casually? Madara, without full Juubis power, gave them some trouble. Even when he had only 1 rinnegan. ANd with 2 rinnegans? Oh, that fight wasnt casually for Naruto and Sasuke.

Plus, Guy was fast enough to distort space itself. Nobody in Naruto showed that kind of speed. And i want to see speed feats from Kaguya and her teleporting portal technques.

No that's just wrong, Naruto speedblitz the same Madara Guy was fighting, this happened the moment Naruto got back, and Naruto didn't need Minato to tank the black spears, Naruto was casually kicking them back, he used the Rasenshuriken AFTER he speedblitz Madara and it cut the hole three down, I didn't say Madara was at full Juubi power at that moment, he absorb the three afterwards, and yes not only was Naruto speedblitzing him at full Juubi power, so was Sasuke, Madara was lucky enough to have his Limbo Madara to tank most of the damage, Sasuke even cut him in half and Naruto sure as hell is faster then Sasuke as he proven versus Kaguya.

Madara without full Juubi did absolutly not give them any trouble, even with full Juubi Madara was being outpowered by Naruto and Sasuke, Guy was fighting a Madara without that insane regenation, without full Juubi, without both Rinnegans, without Limbo, that Madara would have been fodderized in mere seconds against Naruto.

Again, Naruto is faster then instant teleportation both in reactionspeed and movementspeed, he is faster then Guy.

Current Naruto versus max gate-Guy is a complete missmatch, Naruto stomps.

Madara dodged their attacks, used his shadows against them, moved away from them etc. With Guy he was unable to do anything except for 1 black sphere and few black spears. And that was when Guy used an Evening Elephant. When he used Night Guy the space itself was distort around him - so fast he was. And he blitzed Madara, easily. Madara was unable to react to Night Guy attack at all. So i think 8 gate Guy is faster than both Naruto and Sasuke. Do you have any proof Kaguya is faster than 10 tails Madara?

Naruto and Sasuke also fought not full Juubi Madara. Madara just had only 1 Rinnegan. And again - he fought both Naruto and Sasuke in that state and he was able to dodge their attacks, change a distance, use limbos against them etc. Plus, in a fight with Guy, he had regeneration because he had Hashirama Senjus cells fused with his body + his Sage Mode.Madara was able to react to Naruto and Sasuke but was unable to react to Guy, ecpesially when he used Night Guy. According to OP, Guy can use that attack for 8 hours. The attack Naruto, just as Madara, wont be able to react to. Guy slaughters.

Again, and again, go read the chapter where Naruto first enters the frame with his new powers, he instantly blitz Madara (without full Juubi) and previously KICKS the blacks spheres back.

Madara wasn't even using Limbo versus Guy, stop saying he was unable to react, he doesn't have to do anything to move the Limbo, it moves by itself, but the plot decided it wasn't needed, stop making up bullshit like he was "unable" to.

Madara never dodged any attacks, he wasn't fast enough, just like versus Guy, he had Limbo Madara tank the damage at the very last second because he was unable to dodge it, again stop spreading false information.

And again, after Naruto speedblitz Madara the first time, Madara absorbed the Juubi three, which means he had the full Juubi power after that, absorbing the three= Full Juubi power, period, he had the full power.

Because Naruto reacts AND moves against instant teleportation attacks, and has proven he is able to blitz the same Madara Guy was fighting, he is faster.

Madara with full Juubi could regenate his body being split in half in mere seconds, he didn't have that kind of reg versus Guy without the full Juubi.

Not to mention Naruto doesn't even HAVE to be faster to beat Guy, how will Guy deal with Naruto having 40 clones around him all sitting on a rasenshuriken? Blitz through all of them and kill himself in the process? How will Guy fight Bijuumode attacking him from range with rasenshurikens all over the place? He can't.

Naruto stomps.

I think its better for you to read it by yourself. Yeah, Naruto hit him with that lava rasensuriken. But what was after? After that, Madara was able to fight them, change a distance, use his techniques, limbos etc. Maybe Naruto "blitzed" him because Madara was very surprised by what Naruto did before.

He used limbo against them and got away. He was fast enough for that. Against Guy, when he used Night Guy, he didnt do anything because he wasnt fast enough for that. After that punch he told that he fought he was done. That means before Night Guy made contact he would do anything to protect against it. But he did nothing. Thatmeans he was unable to. And he was surprised by Guys speed and by his space distortion. By OP, he can use Night Guy attack all the time. And when did he absorbed the Juubi tree? I dont remember that. I remember that he heared a voice saying to him "absorb me" or something. But did he eraly absorbed Juubi tree?

Madara was able to react to them. he used limbos and changed the distance. Against Guy, he wasnt able to do anything when he used Night Guy attack. And his body wasnt split in half. It was when Sasuke cut him in half and he needed some time to get new legs.

Naruto can be not fast enough to make clones. Plus, Guy can use Night Guy for 8 hours.

Naruto doesnt stomp by any means.

Because that was full Juubi powered Madara which had absorbed the Juubi three, and yes he DID absorb the three, you don't even remember what happened in the chapters but you're having this argument with me, he doesn't have to react to use limbo, it moves by itself, like a clone does.

Naruto blitz'd him because he is much faster then him, Madara had to have the Limbo Madara tank the damage to save himself, and Limbo Madara wasn't used against Guy, guess why? Because of plot, it was Guy's time to shine so they made Madara basicly do nothing against him, the only offensive he used was tanked by MINATO, why did he need Minato to tank the black sphere's? I mean he shouldn't have to if he can defeat Naruto right?

And this is all a much weaker PIS Madara without full Juubi, 2 Rasengans and Limbo's, Guy would get annihilated in seconds against the Madara that Naruto and Sasuke fought, Might guy has no durable feats, he would vanish against multiple meteor attacks that Naruto and Sasuke had no trouble against.

"He wasn't split in half" "Sasuke cut him in half" Logic, there's none here, I was obviously reffering to Sasuke cutting him in half when I said he regenated from being cut in half.

And you assume that Might Guy can keep spaming his attacks, but he can't, even if his body can survive it for 8 hours, Might guy still needed time to breath between his attacks (Oh I wonder why Madara didn't use this time to do anything offensive, how convinenient for Might guy, I guess plot demanded it, to make fanboys like yourself believe Guy could dance with the likes of Naruto and Full Juubi Madara)

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With the techniques madara has it would've took 3 sec to kill guy but he wasn't in control of himself.

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@jedisupermaster said:

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@jedisupermaster: the current naruto is faster dodging space time portals from kayuga that happen instantaneous.

Current naruto is too powerful for guy even in 8 gates.

How is he faster when he had problems with 10 tails Madara who was clearly speedblitzed by 8 gate Guy? No way is he faster than 8 gate Guy who, as i mentioned before, was so fast he distored a space itself. He is faster than both Sasuke and Naruto. And with 8 hours non-stop 8 gates he slaughters, easily.

Lmao what? What are you reading? Guy was fighting a Madara WITHOUT the full Juubi power, with 1 rinnegan and without the holyfruits power, Naruto speedblitz that same Madara just as fast as Guy did the first second with his new powers with just normal tajitsu PLUS he cut down the Juubi three with one attack, plus Guy got help from Minato, Kakashi and Gaara.

Naruto was casually fighting the Madara with both Rinnegans, ALL of Juubi's power and holy fruit, speedblitzing, tanking black spears and rods which would have annihilated Guy if he got hit, tanking and fighting 4 Limbo Madara's at the same time, and casually destroying mountain size meteors.

And now Naruto is not only reacting and dodging instant teleporting atacks, he is speedblitzing so fast the target can't even teleport away.

Sorry but Guy is fodder compared to Naruto, Naruto is faster more durable more powerful in every single way, he would rape Guy in less then 10 seconds.

Naruto and Sasuke were unable to speedblitz that Madara. At the beginning Naruto used his new Rasensuriken technique, yes. But after? Madara, also not with full Juubi power at that moment, was able to use his techniques against them and even react to them. And he was unable to react to 8 gate Guy at all. Guy was speedblitzing him the whole time. So what are YOU reading?

And what 1 rinnegan is gonna do with Madaras reaction times and durability? Even with 2 rinnegans, he would be unable to react to 8 gate Guy techniques, or absorb them.

Guy got help from Minato and others only with his last Evening Elephant punch, thats all.

Casually? Madara, without full Juubis power, gave them some trouble. Even when he had only 1 rinnegan. ANd with 2 rinnegans? Oh, that fight wasnt casually for Naruto and Sasuke.

Plus, Guy was fast enough to distort space itself. Nobody in Naruto showed that kind of speed. And i want to see speed feats from Kaguya and her teleporting portal technques.

No that's just wrong, Naruto speedblitz the same Madara Guy was fighting, this happened the moment Naruto got back, and Naruto didn't need Minato to tank the black spears, Naruto was casually kicking them back, he used the Rasenshuriken AFTER he speedblitz Madara and it cut the hole three down, I didn't say Madara was at full Juubi power at that moment, he absorb the three afterwards, and yes not only was Naruto speedblitzing him at full Juubi power, so was Sasuke, Madara was lucky enough to have his Limbo Madara to tank most of the damage, Sasuke even cut him in half and Naruto sure as hell is faster then Sasuke as he proven versus Kaguya.

Madara without full Juubi did absolutly not give them any trouble, even with full Juubi Madara was being outpowered by Naruto and Sasuke, Guy was fighting a Madara without that insane regenation, without full Juubi, without both Rinnegans, without Limbo, that Madara would have been fodderized in mere seconds against Naruto.

Again, Naruto is faster then instant teleportation both in reactionspeed and movementspeed, he is faster then Guy.

Current Naruto versus max gate-Guy is a complete missmatch, Naruto stomps.

Madara dodged their attacks, used his shadows against them, moved away from them etc. With Guy he was unable to do anything except for 1 black sphere and few black spears. And that was when Guy used an Evening Elephant. When he used Night Guy the space itself was distort around him - so fast he was. And he blitzed Madara, easily. Madara was unable to react to Night Guy attack at all. So i think 8 gate Guy is faster than both Naruto and Sasuke. Do you have any proof Kaguya is faster than 10 tails Madara?

Naruto and Sasuke also fought not full Juubi Madara. Madara just had only 1 Rinnegan. And again - he fought both Naruto and Sasuke in that state and he was able to dodge their attacks, change a distance, use limbos against them etc. Plus, in a fight with Guy, he had regeneration because he had Hashirama Senjus cells fused with his body + his Sage Mode.Madara was able to react to Naruto and Sasuke but was unable to react to Guy, ecpesially when he used Night Guy. According to OP, Guy can use that attack for 8 hours. The attack Naruto, just as Madara, wont be able to react to. Guy slaughters.

Again, and again, go read the chapter where Naruto first enters the frame with his new powers, he instantly blitz Madara (without full Juubi) and previously KICKS the blacks spheres back.

Madara wasn't even using Limbo versus Guy, stop saying he was unable to react, he doesn't have to do anything to move the Limbo, it moves by itself, but the plot decided it wasn't needed, stop making up bullshit like he was "unable" to.

Madara never dodged any attacks, he wasn't fast enough, just like versus Guy, he had Limbo Madara tank the damage at the very last second because he was unable to dodge it, again stop spreading false information.

And again, after Naruto speedblitz Madara the first time, Madara absorbed the Juubi three, which means he had the full Juubi power after that, absorbing the three= Full Juubi power, period, he had the full power.

Because Naruto reacts AND moves against instant teleportation attacks, and has proven he is able to blitz the same Madara Guy was fighting, he is faster.

Madara with full Juubi could regenate his body being split in half in mere seconds, he didn't have that kind of reg versus Guy without the full Juubi.

Not to mention Naruto doesn't even HAVE to be faster to beat Guy, how will Guy deal with Naruto having 40 clones around him all sitting on a rasenshuriken? Blitz through all of them and kill himself in the process? How will Guy fight Bijuumode attacking him from range with rasenshurikens all over the place? He can't.

Naruto stomps.

I think its better for you to read it by yourself. Yeah, Naruto hit him with that lava rasensuriken. But what was after? After that, Madara was able to fight them, change a distance, use his techniques, limbos etc. Maybe Naruto "blitzed" him because Madara was very surprised by what Naruto did before.

He used limbo against them and got away. He was fast enough for that. Against Guy, when he used Night Guy, he didnt do anything because he wasnt fast enough for that. After that punch he told that he fought he was done. That means before Night Guy made contact he would do anything to protect against it. But he did nothing. Thatmeans he was unable to. And he was surprised by Guys speed and by his space distortion. By OP, he can use Night Guy attack all the time. And when did he absorbed the Juubi tree? I dont remember that. I remember that he heared a voice saying to him "absorb me" or something. But did he eraly absorbed Juubi tree?

Madara was able to react to them. he used limbos and changed the distance. Against Guy, he wasnt able to do anything when he used Night Guy attack. And his body wasnt split in half. It was when Sasuke cut him in half and he needed some time to get new legs.

Naruto can be not fast enough to make clones. Plus, Guy can use Night Guy for 8 hours.

Naruto doesnt stomp by any means.

Because that was full Juubi powered Madara which had absorbed the Juubi three, and yes he DID absorb the three, you don't even remember what happened in the chapters but you're having this argument with me, he doesn't have to react to use limbo, it moves by itself, like a clone does.

Naruto blitz'd him because he is much faster then him, Madara had to have the Limbo Madara tank the damage to save himself, and Limbo Madara wasn't used against Guy, guess why? Because of plot, it was Guy's time to shine so they made Madara basicly do nothing against him, the only offensive he used was tanked by MINATO, why did he need Minato to tank the black sphere's? I mean he shouldn't have to if he can defeat Naruto right?

And this is all a much weaker PIS Madara without full Juubi, 2 Rasengans and Limbo's, Guy would get annihilated in seconds against the Madara that Naruto and Sasuke fought, Might guy has no durable feats, he would vanish against multiple meteor attacks that Naruto and Sasuke had no trouble against.

"He wasn't split in half" "Sasuke cut him in half" Logic, there's none here, I was obviously reffering to Sasuke cutting him in half when I said he regenated from being cut in half.

And you assume that Might Guy can keep spaming his attacks, but he can't, even if his body can survive it for 8 hours, Might guy still needed time to breath between his attacks (Oh I wonder why Madara didn't use this time to do anything offensive, how convinenient for Might guy, I guess plot demanded it, to make fanboys like yourself believe Guy could dance with the likes of Naruto and Full Juubi Madara)

Give me a scan of Madara absorbing Juubi tree, please. Not that voice saying "absorb me", but the actual process.

Why do you think it was due to a plot? I think it was because Guy was just too fast for him to male limbos. And i am talking not about evening elephant, but about night guy attack. And due to OP he can use that attack for 8 hours non-stop.

Well, he didnt regenerate that fast after Sasuke cut him in half. So whats the point of mentioning that? And 2 rinnegans wont be affective against Guy because they cant absorb taijutsu. Som even with 2 rinnegans, Madara wouldnt be able to react to Guy, or protect himself from that attack.

Again, maybe they would have been inaffective against Guys attacks, or Madara was too slow to do anything. By the way, can you prove that after absorbing Juubi (if he realy absorbed it) he became faster?

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Sasuke uses his rennigan transporting technique to get behind gai and uses amaterasu and since madara of the six paths only has one rinnegan than naruto should be able to handle him

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@jedisupermaster: the current naruto is faster dodging space time portals from kayuga that happen instantaneous.

Current naruto is too powerful for guy even in 8 gates.

How is he faster when he had problems with 10 tails Madara who was clearly speedblitzed by 8 gate Guy? No way is he faster than 8 gate Guy who, as i mentioned before, was so fast he distored a space itself. He is faster than both Sasuke and Naruto. And with 8 hours non-stop 8 gates he slaughters, easily.

Lmao what? What are you reading? Guy was fighting a Madara WITHOUT the full Juubi power, with 1 rinnegan and without the holyfruits power, Naruto speedblitz that same Madara just as fast as Guy did the first second with his new powers with just normal tajitsu PLUS he cut down the Juubi three with one attack, plus Guy got help from Minato, Kakashi and Gaara.

Naruto was casually fighting the Madara with both Rinnegans, ALL of Juubi's power and holy fruit, speedblitzing, tanking black spears and rods which would have annihilated Guy if he got hit, tanking and fighting 4 Limbo Madara's at the same time, and casually destroying mountain size meteors.

And now Naruto is not only reacting and dodging instant teleporting atacks, he is speedblitzing so fast the target can't even teleport away.

Sorry but Guy is fodder compared to Naruto, Naruto is faster more durable more powerful in every single way, he would rape Guy in less then 10 seconds.

Naruto and Sasuke were unable to speedblitz that Madara. At the beginning Naruto used his new Rasensuriken technique, yes. But after? Madara, also not with full Juubi power at that moment, was able to use his techniques against them and even react to them. And he was unable to react to 8 gate Guy at all. Guy was speedblitzing him the whole time. So what are YOU reading?

And what 1 rinnegan is gonna do with Madaras reaction times and durability? Even with 2 rinnegans, he would be unable to react to 8 gate Guy techniques, or absorb them.

Guy got help from Minato and others only with his last Evening Elephant punch, thats all.

Casually? Madara, without full Juubis power, gave them some trouble. Even when he had only 1 rinnegan. ANd with 2 rinnegans? Oh, that fight wasnt casually for Naruto and Sasuke.

Plus, Guy was fast enough to distort space itself. Nobody in Naruto showed that kind of speed. And i want to see speed feats from Kaguya and her teleporting portal technques.

No that's just wrong, Naruto speedblitz the same Madara Guy was fighting, this happened the moment Naruto got back, and Naruto didn't need Minato to tank the black spears, Naruto was casually kicking them back, he used the Rasenshuriken AFTER he speedblitz Madara and it cut the hole three down, I didn't say Madara was at full Juubi power at that moment, he absorb the three afterwards, and yes not only was Naruto speedblitzing him at full Juubi power, so was Sasuke, Madara was lucky enough to have his Limbo Madara to tank most of the damage, Sasuke even cut him in half and Naruto sure as hell is faster then Sasuke as he proven versus Kaguya.

Madara without full Juubi did absolutly not give them any trouble, even with full Juubi Madara was being outpowered by Naruto and Sasuke, Guy was fighting a Madara without that insane regenation, without full Juubi, without both Rinnegans, without Limbo, that Madara would have been fodderized in mere seconds against Naruto.

Again, Naruto is faster then instant teleportation both in reactionspeed and movementspeed, he is faster then Guy.

Current Naruto versus max gate-Guy is a complete missmatch, Naruto stomps.

Madara dodged their attacks, used his shadows against them, moved away from them etc. With Guy he was unable to do anything except for 1 black sphere and few black spears. And that was when Guy used an Evening Elephant. When he used Night Guy the space itself was distort around him - so fast he was. And he blitzed Madara, easily. Madara was unable to react to Night Guy attack at all. So i think 8 gate Guy is faster than both Naruto and Sasuke. Do you have any proof Kaguya is faster than 10 tails Madara?

Naruto and Sasuke also fought not full Juubi Madara. Madara just had only 1 Rinnegan. And again - he fought both Naruto and Sasuke in that state and he was able to dodge their attacks, change a distance, use limbos against them etc. Plus, in a fight with Guy, he had regeneration because he had Hashirama Senjus cells fused with his body + his Sage Mode.Madara was able to react to Naruto and Sasuke but was unable to react to Guy, ecpesially when he used Night Guy. According to OP, Guy can use that attack for 8 hours. The attack Naruto, just as Madara, wont be able to react to. Guy slaughters.

Again, and again, go read the chapter where Naruto first enters the frame with his new powers, he instantly blitz Madara (without full Juubi) and previously KICKS the blacks spheres back.

Madara wasn't even using Limbo versus Guy, stop saying he was unable to react, he doesn't have to do anything to move the Limbo, it moves by itself, but the plot decided it wasn't needed, stop making up bullshit like he was "unable" to.

Madara never dodged any attacks, he wasn't fast enough, just like versus Guy, he had Limbo Madara tank the damage at the very last second because he was unable to dodge it, again stop spreading false information.

And again, after Naruto speedblitz Madara the first time, Madara absorbed the Juubi three, which means he had the full Juubi power after that, absorbing the three= Full Juubi power, period, he had the full power.

Because Naruto reacts AND moves against instant teleportation attacks, and has proven he is able to blitz the same Madara Guy was fighting, he is faster.

Madara with full Juubi could regenate his body being split in half in mere seconds, he didn't have that kind of reg versus Guy without the full Juubi.

Not to mention Naruto doesn't even HAVE to be faster to beat Guy, how will Guy deal with Naruto having 40 clones around him all sitting on a rasenshuriken? Blitz through all of them and kill himself in the process? How will Guy fight Bijuumode attacking him from range with rasenshurikens all over the place? He can't.

Naruto stomps.

I think its better for you to read it by yourself. Yeah, Naruto hit him with that lava rasensuriken. But what was after? After that, Madara was able to fight them, change a distance, use his techniques, limbos etc. Maybe Naruto "blitzed" him because Madara was very surprised by what Naruto did before.

He used limbo against them and got away. He was fast enough for that. Against Guy, when he used Night Guy, he didnt do anything because he wasnt fast enough for that. After that punch he told that he fought he was done. That means before Night Guy made contact he would do anything to protect against it. But he did nothing. Thatmeans he was unable to. And he was surprised by Guys speed and by his space distortion. By OP, he can use Night Guy attack all the time. And when did he absorbed the Juubi tree? I dont remember that. I remember that he heared a voice saying to him "absorb me" or something. But did he eraly absorbed Juubi tree?

Madara was able to react to them. he used limbos and changed the distance. Against Guy, he wasnt able to do anything when he used Night Guy attack. And his body wasnt split in half. It was when Sasuke cut him in half and he needed some time to get new legs.

Naruto can be not fast enough to make clones. Plus, Guy can use Night Guy for 8 hours.

Naruto doesnt stomp by any means.

Because that was full Juubi powered Madara which had absorbed the Juubi three, and yes he DID absorb the three, you don't even remember what happened in the chapters but you're having this argument with me, he doesn't have to react to use limbo, it moves by itself, like a clone does.

Naruto blitz'd him because he is much faster then him, Madara had to have the Limbo Madara tank the damage to save himself, and Limbo Madara wasn't used against Guy, guess why? Because of plot, it was Guy's time to shine so they made Madara basicly do nothing against him, the only offensive he used was tanked by MINATO, why did he need Minato to tank the black sphere's? I mean he shouldn't have to if he can defeat Naruto right?

And this is all a much weaker PIS Madara without full Juubi, 2 Rasengans and Limbo's, Guy would get annihilated in seconds against the Madara that Naruto and Sasuke fought, Might guy has no durable feats, he would vanish against multiple meteor attacks that Naruto and Sasuke had no trouble against.

"He wasn't split in half" "Sasuke cut him in half" Logic, there's none here, I was obviously reffering to Sasuke cutting him in half when I said he regenated from being cut in half.

And you assume that Might Guy can keep spaming his attacks, but he can't, even if his body can survive it for 8 hours, Might guy still needed time to breath between his attacks (Oh I wonder why Madara didn't use this time to do anything offensive, how convinenient for Might guy, I guess plot demanded it, to make fanboys like yourself believe Guy could dance with the likes of Naruto and Full Juubi Madara)

Ok, i found that chapter. Yeah, it looks like he realy absorbed it. But can you prove he became faster after absorbing Juubi tree? He became more powerfull, but faster?

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