This i think would be a close fight. I am leaning towards Namor in the fight but I am sure a lot will choose wonderwoman what are your thoughts?
Namor Vs Wonder Woman
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Nice, something new. I'm going Wonder Woman, I think she's stronger or at least strong enough to keep Namor out of water long enough for him to power down.
Post Edited:2007-09-23 23:49:24
King of Kings says:
"Nice, something new. I'm going Wonder Woman, I think she's stronger or at least strong enough to keep Namor out of water long enough for him to power down.Thanks. I figure its a closer battle then most post and probably hasnt been talked about beforeAs for the power down part he has to be out for a while for that to happen plus he can fly pretty fast kinda harder to keep him from water plus if hes even near a swimming pool or small body of water then he can be at 100 percent i dont know dianas strenght but i know Namor can lift 100 tons and he has telekenetic control over water making huge tidal waves so the world is mostly made of water (i think Namor has a better shot of keeping wonder woman fighting in water then she does having him fight on land)So lets make it a fair fighton the shore so Diana doesnt have to fight 100 percent of the battle in the ocean beacuase i think Namor would win too easily in the water
Post Edited:2007-09-23 23:49:24"
Post Edited:2007-09-24 00:16:16
All she's gotta do is tie him up with her lasso and then how would he get back to water? She's almost as strong as Superman.
From what I know of Namor can only lift 100 tons while in contact with water, outside of that its only 85 tons.
So we shall do a power list
Namor:
Super Strenght
Super Speed
Agility
Flight
Water Telekenisis (tidal wave big enough to destroy manhatan)
Electric Shock (simular to electric eels)
Impervious to many attacks- Iron mans attacks do not hurt him. He also single handedly beat the fantastic 4
Weakness- out of water for a long period of time
Diana
Super Strenght
Super Speed
Agility
Magic Resistantce
Power Bracelets- Deflects most projectiles and energy beams
Magic Lasso
Weakneses: Projectiles
Post Edited:2007-09-24 00:51:33
Heart of Infinity says:
"something tells me Diana's bracelets cant stop a Tidal Wave the size of Manhattan"
She's just gonna float and wait for a giant tidal wave to drowned her? I doubt that. Super speed homeboy, she could outrun it no problem.
Thats a huge wave to out run and it would be hard to run away if shes fighting Namor at the same time
Heart of Infinity says:
"yeah since he makes the tidal waves which namor is stronger though?"I don't know. I would say the Normal one because I think the Ultimate universe is weaker in general then the Main Universe. So Namor appears stronger compared to those around him the the main Namor but if you compared the two I think the main one would be stronger.
i read the ultimate fantastic 4 which featured Namor and he seemed just as powerful but thats seemed so I am not sure
yeah most of the ultimate seems a power down
like Galactus to ...... Gah lak tus (god i hated that version of him) nothing can replace the big guy for me
I dont think its all a power down i think they just did it to even things out
like Cap America able to go toe to toe with Gah lak tus Silver Surfer drones (yes they are drones but still)
All though SS comes later is much stronger then the drones that were modeled off of him
if you go by the marvel universe profiles there stats are the same but Ultimate Namor isnt said to have a weakness from being out of water for a period of time where regular namor is
Wonder Woman wins this easily.
She has superstrength (almost rivalling that of Superman) that is massively greater than Namors (in or out of the water), she is more durable to punches and she has the ability to move at super speed.
The_Creator says:
"Wonder Woman wins this easily. She has superstrength (almost rivalling that of Superman) that is massively greater than Namors (in or out of the water), she is more durable to punches and she has the ability to move at super speed."
I still want to know wonders official life rating if what King of Kings said is correct and its 100 plus then Namor is still in the range to fight her
and Namor is pretty good in the durability and speed department in and out of the water
Heart of Infinity says:
"The_Creator says:"Wonder Woman wins this easily. She has superstrength (almost rivalling that of Superman) that is massively greater than Namors (in or out of the water), she is more durable to punches and she has the ability to move at super speed."I still want to know wonders official life rating if what King of Kings said is correct and its 100 plus then Namor is still in the range to fight her and Namor is pretty good in the durability and speed department in and out of the water "
If Namors as strong as Thor (which I doubt), that puts him in around the 70,000 tonne range (at best in the Water).
WW on the other hand can lift around 2,000,000 tonnes (minimum). That's a big difference.
Namor's durability is such that he can resist blows from people of his strength.
Imagine him being hit by somone 30+ times stronger. That would do a lot of damage.
Namor, although possessing a reaction time perhaps 3 - 4 times that of a normal man is not in WW's reaction time and movement speed league. She has reactions that are more like the Flashes that Namor's. She can accelerate in to bullet time and move dozens to hundreds of times faster than a normal man.
WW's durability enables her to resist blows from beings of similar strength to her.
This is why WW should win this battle.
The_Creator says:
"Heart of Infinity says:"The_Creator says:If Namors as strong as Thor (which I doubt), that puts him in around the 70,000 tonne range (at best in the Water). WW on the other hand can lift around 2,000,000 tonnes (minimum). That's a big difference. Namor's durability is such that he can resist blows from people of his strength. Imagine him being hit by somone 30+ times stronger. That would do a lot of damage. Namor, although possessing a reaction time perhaps 3 - 4 times that of a normal man is not in WW's reaction time and movement speed league. She has reactions that are more like the Flashes that Namor's. She can accelerate in to bullet time and move dozens to hundreds of times faster than a normal man. WW's durability enables her to resist blows from beings of similar strength to her. This is why WW should win this battle. ""Wonder Woman wins this easily. She has superstrength (almost rivalling that of Superman) that is massively greater than Namors (in or out of the water), she is more durable to punches and she has the ability to move at super speed."I still want to know wonders official life rating if what King of Kings said is correct and its 100 plus then Namor is still in the range to fight her and Namor is pretty good in the durability and speed department in and out of the water "
Ok i keep hearing the quoates where Superman or Wonder woman can lift millions of tons. Where i dont doubt that it probably is true do you know where i can research that info. Is it officially stated somewhere. I mean if superman can lift entire islands then I am sure its right but I want to know where to find info like that
Heart of Infinity says:
"Ok i keep hearing the quoates where Superman or Wonder woman can lift millions of tons. Where i dont doubt that it probably is true do you know where i can research that info. Is it officially stated somewhere. I mean if superman can lift entire islands then I am sure its right but I want to know where to find info like that"
It's all in the comics.
Heart of Infinity says:
"The_Creator says:"Heart of Infinity says:Ok i keep hearing the quoates where Superman or Wonder woman can lift millions of tons. Where i dont doubt that it probably is true do you know where i can research that info. Is it officially stated somewhere. I mean if superman can lift entire islands then I am sure its right but I want to know where to find info like that""The_Creator says:If Namors as strong as Thor (which I doubt), that puts him in around the 70,000 tonne range (at best in the Water). WW on the other hand can lift around 2,000,000 tonnes (minimum). That's a big difference. Namor's durability is such that he can resist blows from people of his strength. Imagine him being hit by somone 30+ times stronger. That would do a lot of damage. Namor, although possessing a reaction time perhaps 3 - 4 times that of a normal man is not in WW's reaction time and movement speed league. She has reactions that are more like the Flashes that Namor's. She can accelerate in to bullet time and move dozens to hundreds of times faster than a normal man. WW's durability enables her to resist blows from beings of similar strength to her. This is why WW should win this battle. ""Wonder Woman wins this easily. She has superstrength (almost rivalling that of Superman) that is massively greater than Namors (in or out of the water), she is more durable to punches and she has the ability to move at super speed."I still want to know wonders official life rating if what King of Kings said is correct and its 100 plus then Namor is still in the range to fight her and Namor is pretty good in the durability and speed department in and out of the water "
Who's Who in the DC Universe and like others have already said, various other published/recorded sources.
thanks for showing me where to actually finds some of this info
so why doesnt Flash beat everone on this list then?
Heart of Infinity says:
"thanks for showing me where to actually finds some of this info so why doesnt Flash beat everone on this list then?"
Well in theory he could.
He can react faster than Superman or Capt Marvel (at least initially for Cap) and this could be a big advantage.
However don't forget that Flash does still tire out.
The other 2 certainly don't - at least not for a few months.
Supermans ability to fly, long range senses and ability to attack Flash from a huge distance could be a significant threat (like attacking from low orbit).
Valkaad says:
"When did Namor acquire water telekenisis???????????"
Ultimate Namor.
And just on general principle the DC heavy hitters are way more powerful than most of the Marvel heavy hitters. If I had my way I would even the power disparity between Namor and Dianan, ut this ain't Burgerking I think WW's strength is up into 1000's of tons at least 10 times stronger than Namor her durability is euivalent to greater and her speed is about like her durability. Her fighting is supposed to be great I believe Namors would be too, naturally, but Marvel has let me down with their depiction of Namor.
WW wins, (I write begrudgingly). Buuuuut,Namor till the casket drops.
Valkaad says:
"When did Namor acquire water telekenisis???????????"
Ultimate Namor.
And just on general principle the DC heavy hitters are way more powerful than most of the Marvel heavy hitters. If I had my way I would even the power disparity between Namor and Dianan, ut this ain't Burgerking I think WW's strength is up into 1000's of tons at least 10 times stronger than Namor her durability is euivalent to greater and her speed is about like her durability. Her fighting is supposed to be great I believe Namors would be too, naturally, but Marvel has let me down with their depiction of Namor.
WW wins, (I write begrudgingly). Buuuuut,Namor till the casket drops.
Sling Shot says:
"Valkaad says:"When did Namor acquire water telekenisis???????????"Ultimate Namor. And just on general principle the DC heavy hitters are way more powerful than most of the Marvel heavy hitters. If I had my way I would even the power disparity between Namor and Dianan, ut this ain't Burgerking I think WW's strength is up into 1000's of tons at least 10 times stronger than Namor her durability is euivalent to greater and her speed is about like her durability. Her fighting is supposed to be great I believe Namors would be too, naturally, but Marvel has let me down with their depiction of Namor. WW wins, (I write begrudgingly). Buuuuut,Namor till the casket drops."
I agree with you.
Copy says:
"well he can lift over 100 tons i think and he can fly and if he gets wonder woman in the water its over"
i guess you didnt read any of the posts before yours...
than if you know that wonder woman is probably 30 times stronger than namor, why are you picking namor?
Copy says:
"Apparition says:"than if you know that wonder woman is probably 30 times stronger than namor, why are you picking namor?"wonder woman is not 30 times stronger then namor and this fight is on land close but ww in water namor all the way"
so you dont believe it when dc says that wonder woman is almost as strong as superman?
Apparition says:
"Copy says:i'd never said ww was not stronger the namor i said she is not like 30 times stronger and for the superman thing i'm not sure of i never heard of her being that strong"Apparition says:so you dont believe it when dc says that wonder woman is almost as strong as superman?""than if you know that wonder woman is probably 30 times stronger than namor, why are you picking namor?"wonder woman is not 30 times stronger then namor and this fight is on land close but ww in water namor all the way"
Post Edited:2007-09-24 18:29:25
Copy says:
"Apparition says:"Copy says:i'd never said ww was not stronger the namor i said she is not like 30 times stronger and for the superman thing i'm not sure of i never heard of her being that strong"Apparition says:so you dont believe it when dc says that wonder woman is almost as strong as superman?""than if you know that wonder woman is probably 30 times stronger than namor, why are you picking namor?"wonder woman is not 30 times stronger then namor and this fight is on land close but ww in water namor all the way"
Post Edited:2007-09-24 18:29:25"
then look her up. almost anything written about her strength tells you that she is almost as strong as superman. that's dc's official position. and that means she's easily 30 times stronger than namor.
Copy says:
"okay my bad your right but i still think if they are in the water the fight goes to namor"
Sadly enough, still won't work...
no way. namor couldnt ever beat her in the water or out. she would be slower in the water than on land but on land she's so fast that she can almost react to things like flash can. so in water she doesnt suddenly become a statue! she'd be way faster and way stronger no matter where the fight took place.
Eternal Chaos says:
"Copy says:"okay my bad your right but i still think if they are in the water the fight goes to namor"Sadly enough, still won't work..."
seriously how namor is fast as a dolphin and in water his strenght dosen't go away and ww is slower and strenght isn't everything he can use the enviroment to
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