namor vs black panther

T'Challa stands 1% of chances of winning the fight,this 1% if Namor gets bored and leaves,the other 99% he gets his @ss kicked
 
@TheMaskedEidolon:
Panther doesnt stand a chance because Namor is much stronger,faster,can fly,can shoot eletricit and is durable to the point BP cant scratch him

" @Vance Astro: Well not a lot of people respect the character for a multitude of reasons that I hope we wont have to get into. He is a, Namor, Captain America, Ironman, Xavier, Blackbolt, Dr. Strange, Dr. Doom, etc level character yet few people seem to understand this simply because he hasn't had a decent modern day interpretation other than in Volume 3. He also doesn't directly involve himself with America in the comics which gives him few situations to use as comparison and he doesn't have nearly as many titles as most of the people I mentioned above.   If you can't see him as capable of defeating or stalemating or hell, even putting up a fight against an opponent like Namor he respects and sees him as a total equal, who has fought with him to a draw in cannon more than once, then your seeing it wrong in my opinion. I'm sorry if I don't follow the majority opinion when I think its wrong, however many people say "Namor" without giving a valid, reasonable reason as to why they feel that way don't matter.   I can also see how Namor can win this fight but I am currently arguing for T'Challa because unlike most apparently, I think he can win too. All i;m asking is that you get off your high horse and address the arguement as its been presented. If you don't think T'Challa stands a chance then at least give a sentence as to why you don't think so. Otherwise you just sound like your picking fights. "

"T'Challa stands 1% of chances of winning the fight,this 1% if Namor gets bored and leaves,the other 99% he gets his @ss kicked
 
@TheMaskedEidolon: Panther doesnt stand a chance because Namor is much stronger,faster,can fly,can shoot eletricit and is durable to the point BP cant scratch him "

I do believe he is on those characters levels. 

I love how theMaskedEidolon thinks Panther is on the same level as Captain America, Iron Man, Doctor Strange and Black Bolt, when they themselves are completely different tiers.

T'Challa loses the fight. The fact that he had dust to sap Namor dry was a one-time thing. He doesn't normally carry that. In their second encounter, Namor had been out of a water for a while. In any case, T'Challa would only win if he's prepped. I don't think energy daggers would work, since Namor has electrical currents running through his body, not to mention the fact that he was fast enough to deflect them.

" I love how theMaskedEidolon thinks Panther is on the same level as Captain America, Iron Man, Doctor Strange and Black Bolt, when they themselves are completely different tiers. "

"Or whatever other random vibration/sonics device hes carrying on him.

" 1. He can withstand a few hits from Namor.  2. He is arguably faster in a H2H fight - reflexes are on par or better, and dextery/agility is better. 3. He is capable of harming Namor - claws to the eyes, mouth, or throat and energy daggers set on kill. Or whatever other random vibration/sonics device hes carrying on him. 4. He is a lot smarter/tactical in both the science aspect as well as combat experience.  5. Doesn't always fight head on, is capable of hiding from Namors enhanced vision.   "

" I was talking about them all being conceptual equals. They are the best of the best the human race has to offer(I kinda count Black Bolt as human-like) They all have status power that goes beyond their immediate abilities. They all comand forces that are beyond the normal scope of their ability. Like Captain America's ability to inspire and become the symbol of good demanding the respect of the entire superhero community. Tony is similar and has(had) access to the entire american military/technology when he led SHIELD. T'Challa is the same in his ability to command an entire nation of Wakanda and has huge support in the superhero community in America.   My point is these are all Illuminati class characters, people who in some form actually control the world. I'm making the argument that T'Challa is among these people and as such he demands respect. He should be and has been written with the capability to accomplish feats that extend beyond his super powers. He has the potential to defeat every one of the people mentioned, as they all have the potential to defeat the other members as well, it all depends on whos writing and what the story will dictate. This is what I mean when I says hes on par with them. I'm not saying his superhuman body and vibranium suit means hes stronger than them.   "

" @Static Shock: He usually has something involving sonics in his modern interpretations. He never really uses any of his gadgets though since hes usually capable enough without them. I'ed imagine he was armed with similar things as Shuri and when she was getting ready to go out as BP they finally gave the reader a list of the actual gadgets she carries. I know they never really did anything like that for T'Challa but I don't think its a stretch to assume he had access to the same or similar gadgets.  Thats only one of two or three ways that I listed that he could damage Namor. "

I will go with Namor cause he was able to fight Sentry

This didn't have to go to 4 pages.Black Panther without prep doesn't stand a chance against Namor.In a random encounter Namor will let him have it every time.

Also its worth mentioning that Namor deflected the energy daggers with his wrist guards wonder woman style. He didn't really dodge them in that particular scan. Not to say he couldn't dodge them ever, but just that he needed to deflect them when they were on stun mode might be telling. If he was invulnerable to them why would he bother to dodge or deflect them? Just something to consider, it's probably not enough proof to make the claim that the daggers can hurt him.  
 
I'll concede the point about vibration tech and other gadgets, it was just an assumption I made. I'm probably wrong about him carrying anything other than his Komoyo Card and daggers regularly other than his suit/boots/anti-metal claws. If this is what he carries at a minimum I still see a lot of ways for T'Challa to win this fight. Namor can win of course but I dont think hes going to do it easily or as straight forward as some of you seem to think.
 
@Vance Astro:
I heard you the first 9 times. If your not going to add anything why post?
 

"Black Panther without prep doesn't stand a chance against Namor. In a random encounter Namor will let him have it every time. "

" @Static Shock:  
1. He can, but theres no guarentee that he always will. Just as theres no guarentee T'Challa stabs Namor's eyes out, though i'ed argue its easier for T'Challa to get Namor in the eyes than it is for Namor to bear hug T'Challa.
2. Right and he can take a few of those tags as well as tag Namor a few times too, theyre even here with a slight edge in favor of BP imo. 
3. The daggers might not work but again, we can't know for sure. I don't actually know what type of energy the daggers use (I assume photons) and Namor rarely absorbs things that arent electricity. 
4. Thanks 
5. Thanks
 
 Like I said, I can see Namor winning this theres no doubt in my mind that hes capable of it. However, a lot of people don't seem to think BP has a chance either and that I disagree with. I think he has a decent chance even without prep.

" @Vance Astro said:

"Black Panther without prep doesn't stand a chance against Namor. In a random encounter Namor will let him have it every time. "

This. "

" @Static Shock: 1. Chokehold is different from the bearhug he'll need to put on T'Challa. A Chokehold leaves T'Challa arms free and that just makes it easier for T'Challa to gouge out his eyes. Also Namor is going to have a harder time detecting T'Challa if he approaches this battle in stealth. Ironman can just use his scanners to detect body heat or something Namor has no such ability.

"3. That was a specific setting in the Hydro-man thing wasn't it? Maybe they use more than one kind of energy? "

" @Static Shock:  
True. The gorillas grabbing him is just one of those things that make sense for the story moments

Namor

Agreed

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           Now go away. "

Namor.

" And yet they are scans. You less you can post scan showing otherwise it doesn't matter. Insconsistent or not...on what ever level. Your opinion does not change what happend in the comics...note that during that issue I believe Tom Brevoort was the editor...   Tom Brevoort > then comicvine posters.    "

" And yet they are scans. You less you can post scan showing otherwise it doesn't matter. Insconsistent or not...on what ever level. Your opinion does not change what happend in the comics...note that during that issue I believe Tom Brevoort was the editor...   Tom Brevoort > then comicvine posters.    "

" I told myself that I was not going to post here...so this is the last.   But yes he can...just like Batman can hurt Superman...T'challa can hurt Namor...in the same manner...with his "Desert suns" and the Dust that can strip him dry of all water...which has been shown more then once...and the fact that he carries it with him, just like Bats does with Kryponite.    sorry we have different opinions...but that is all they are opinions...unless you get a job for Marvel...what they say and do goes.  So no amout of posting your opinion will change this fact.  Cheers.  "

But yes he can...just like Batman can hurt Superman...T'challa can hurt Namor...in the same manner...with his "Desert suns" and the Dust that can strip him dry of all water...which has been shown more then once...and the fact that he carries it with him, just like Bats does with Kryponite.  

t'challa, wakandans developed technology to take out atlanteans a while ago, and it's been shown on panel.

" @Trackz: T'Challa needs prep for all of that. He's not prepped here, so his technology is out of the question. "