@bump1010 said:
@micah said:
It was in New Avengers #24.
Black Swan was shown killing Doctor Spectrum in combat who is their Green Lantern analogue. Proxima Midnight was also practically unscathed after Luke's best shots. She was also distracted before he really got offense rolling and even told Thanos she slipped up and would kill him quick. During Infinity she was knocked down by a powered up shot from Mrs. Marvel but even then she withstood it. and we have her spear Her spear when thrown transforms into three tracers of black light that never miss, that can pin opponents down with the weight of a star. Something that would put anyone out of action short of Wonder Woman if she deflects them. Corvus spear was strong enough to pierce the skin of Hyperion (who has proven himself to be a powerful Superman analogue if we compare powers.) and was durable enough that Hyperion had to unleash his heat vision at full power to bring him down, even before this he was pretty fast in combat being able to dance around the Hulk and Hyperion in combat.
These are alternate versions and don't have the same feats as there 616 selves. Likewise we don't really know the context. Plus being analogues doesn't make one comparable to the original. Namor was holding his own against a martian manhunter analogue when the new avengers encountered sun god and his friends, but we all know the real martian manhunter would rip namor in two.
I don't recall Proxima being unscratched from luke cage. She cheap shotted him with a KO, civillians distracted her, and he got up and they went blow for blow. One blow from binary is not really comparable to what the JLA can do. Regardless I will retract my statement about her not being a threat since she did block heat vision from hyperion so she might be a threat if she is capable of reacting to the JLA (I still doubt this but we will have to agree to disagree).
Dancing around hulk is something most people on the JLA can do easily. Whether they can beat him is a different debate I wont go into, but its pretty obvious superman and wonder woman are way faster than hulk. Corvus never danced around hyperion though. He cheap shotted hyperion who was engaging proxima midnight. And I don't recall hyperion saying he needed to unleash his heat vision on Covus. He was having a badass moment killing him, we don't know if that was hyperions best, not to mention hyperion was injured and bleeding energy when he killed Corvus.
I won't go into the debate over alternate reality vs mainstream I'll simply say the Supreme Power Versions have high-end feats showing them to be a powerful team. And as for the other reality versions, we can't assume all of them were weaker than their original versions despite a lack of feats. Also Namor did stab Manhunter with his Trident, so we never saw Namor engaging purely in a physical fight, so holding his own isn't surprising. And remember when the analogue started to use his shape-shifting Namor was clearly worried in combat. So it's not like he walked all over him.
After Luke got in a good combo she stood up and didn't give the impression she was phased at all. She was more concerned with looking bad in front of Thanos. One blow from an amped up Binary is comparable to what the JLA can do in terms of energy projection. And as I said Proxima's spear will be a major obstacle for the League. Another thing worth noting is Proxima was shown killing Power Princess (Wonder Woman analogue) with her bare hands and was smiling the whole time.
Excusing my colorful vocabulary, Hyperion did not hold back with his final heat vision shot. That was the last thing he did in the fight before he went down I believe, and as I said this was after Corvus had survived being speared by Proxima's tracers after a deflection from Cap's shield. Even if we assume it wasn't his best shot even at his technical weakest Hyperion's heat vision sliced off the High Evolutionary's arm like butter. My statement about Corvus lance piercing Hyperion's skin still stands, the chances of him doing the same to Superman or Wonder Woman are likely.
If Thanos is removed the Cabal's chances of winning decrease but as I said no one on that team is being one-shotted or going down without killing members of the League.
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