Namor and Iron Man vs Ms Marvel and She Hulk

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Namor and Iron Man

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Ms Marvel and She Hulk

Morals on. Fight in Washington DC, next to the Potomac River. No people or animals are present.

No prep.

Round 1: Current characters (no Phoneix force for Namor though), Extremis Iron Man

Round 2: Classic characters.

EDIT: No nanites for Tony. No weapons for him that can automatically disable the powers of Ms Marvel or She Hulk.

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#2  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
Extremis Iron Man had developed nanites that enabled him to depower She-Hulk, so a small pinch and it's game over for her. Ms Marvel cannot defeat them both by herself, either. 
 
Classic versions, Iron Man also one-shotted Jen with a uni-beam in Contest of Champions. As for Carol, I have read very little of her from that era.
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#3  Edited By Saren

I'm not really sure why Carol is stronger than pre-Eon upgrade Mar-Vell (who was physically inferior to the classic red and gold Iron Man), since her powers come from his DNA being transcribed on top of hers......unless I haven't read something about that.

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@Morpheus_ said:

Extremis Iron Man had developed nanites that enabled him to depower She-Hulk, so a small pinch and it's game over for her. Ms Marvel cannot defeat them both by herself, either.

Classic versions, Iron Man also one-shotted Jen with a uni-beam in Contest of Champions. As for Carol, I have read very little of her from that era.

I'm going to take away nanites in the OP then. Carol absorbs energy though, in which case she will be tougher for Iron Man to take down without him giving her added power.

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#5  Edited By texasdeathmatch

Man, Namor looks absolutely absurd in that image.

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#6  Edited By ChaosBlazer

@texasdeathmatch said:

Man, Namor looks absolutely absurd in that image.

lol i know

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#7  Edited By nefarious

Team 1.

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#8  Edited By Tony_Shark

God, I hate Namor XD

Anyway, I'm going for team one on both rounds.

Even without the nanites, Extremis has all kinds of crazy counter-measures. Plus, all his stats. Namor is insanely strong too.

Both classic versions of Namor and Iron Man are pretty tough, but classic Ms. Marvel will be kind of hard to take down.

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#9  Edited By Bo88gdan

Team 1 

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#10  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@texasdeathmatch said:

Man, Namor looks absolutely absurd in that image.

It's the ankle wings right? They do look a bit off.

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#11  Edited By TDK_1997

Team 1 should win.

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#12  Edited By czarny_samael666

Namor currently pretty much one-shotted She-Hulk, just before his second fight with Thing. 
 
So I don't see why Namor can't solo this.

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#13  Edited By Super_SoldierXII

Team 2.

Cuz Namor's arrogance disturbs and, well, I like rooting for beautiful buxom babes ... even if they are just figments of an artist's inked imagination.

Thems be my reasons! And they're perfectly valid dammit! :P

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Team 1

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#15  Edited By lady_liberty

@texasdeathmatch said:

Man, Namor looks absolutely absurd in that image.

If by 'Absurd' you meant 'Absurdly hot' then I would agree!

But on to the battle. At first glance I would say Iron Man and Namor can take out Carol.

She Hulk isn't much of an issue, I don't think she can last long enough against Namor to matter.

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#16  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Lady_Liberty said:

She Hulk isn't much of an issue, I don't think she can last long enough against Namor to matter.

That's funny you should say that because even when She-Hulk was weaker..Namor has almost never faired well against her.
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@czarny_samael666 said:

Namor currently pretty much one-shotted She-Hulk, just before his second fight with Thing. So I don't see why Namor can't solo this.

This...

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hottest characters always win, make your own interpretation

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#19  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Vorien79 said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

Namor currently pretty much one-shotted She-Hulk, just before his second fight with Thing. So I don't see why Namor can't solo this.

This...

There is only one time where Namor fought well against She-Hulk and it's in a series where he previously had trouble with Luke Cage in the ocean. I don't think that's where you want to be drawing your proof from. 
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#20  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Morpheus_ said:
Extremis Iron Man had developed nanites that enabled him to depower She-Hulk, so a small pinch and it's game over for her. Ms Marvel cannot defeat them both by herself, either. 
 
Classic versions, Iron Man also one-shotted Jen with a uni-beam in Contest of Champions. As for Carol, I have read very little of her from that era.
Classic Carol is basically the same as the current version accept she was only class 50 and had 7th sense which was precog.
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@czarny_samael666 said:

Namor currently pretty much one-shotted She-Hulk, just before his second fight with Thing. So I don't see why Namor can't solo this.

She Hulk can last in a fight with Namor. Namor has had trouble with Thing and Cage before, She Hulk won't go down very quickly. And I doubt Namor will solo this. Carol is faster than Namor and has energy projection/absorption powers as well. She is almost as strong as him as well. In fact I see no reason why Carol shouldn't defeat Namor by herself.

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#22  Edited By czarny_samael666
@Vance Astro said:
@Vorien79 said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

Namor currently pretty much one-shotted She-Hulk, just before his second fight with Thing. So I don't see why Namor can't solo this.

This...

There is only one time where Namor fought well against She-Hulk and it's in a series where he previously had trouble with Luke Cage in the ocean. I don't think that's where you want to be drawing your proof from. 
He didn't have trouble with Cage in UXM, he even said that he highly underestimated him first time. That is why he won so easily this time. 
She-Hulk's recent showings put her much below Thing. 
Thing won with few Kree-Sentries alone, She-Hulk get one-shotted. 
Thing can stalemate with Namor, while She-Hulk was again one-shotted. 
Plus she also was taken out by Rogue in one of last Legacy (much easier than Carol was in the same series).
 
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@czarny_samael666 said:

Namor currently pretty much one-shotted She-Hulk, just before his second fight with Thing. So I don't see why Namor can't solo this.

She Hulk can last in a fight with Namor. Namor has had trouble with Thing and Cage before, She Hulk won't go down very quickly. And I doubt Namor will solo this. Carol is faster than Namor and has energy projection/absorption powers as well. She is almost as strong as him as well. In fact I see no reason why Carol shouldn't defeat Namor by herself.


Namor has river near him in this battle. He will be more than few times stronger than Carol. And She-Hulk don't seem to be that impresive.
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#23  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@czarny_samael666 said:

He didn't have trouble with Cage in UXM, he even said that he highly underestimated him first time. That is why he won so easily this time. 

You're contradicting yourself. Namor DID have trouble with Cage. That's a fact. No amount of underestimation should allow Cage to appear at any point to have the upper hand on Namor, the power level margin is too large. 
 
@czarny_samael666 said:

She-Hulk's recent showings put her much below Thing. 

They are however contradictory to her showings by in large.
 
@czarny_samael666 said:

Thing can stalemate with Namor, while She-Hulk was again one-shotted. 

A much weaker version of She-Hulk fought Namor twice and even fresh out of the water, she walked all over him. Difference is, she's had a strength upgrade since then and he hasn't. 
 
@czarny_samael666 said:

He didn't have trouble with Cage in UXM, he even said that he highly underestimated him first time. That is why he won so easily this time. 
She-Hulk's recent showings put her much below Thing. 
Thing won with few Kree-Sentries alone, She-Hulk get one-shotted. 
Thing can stalemate with Namor, while She-Hulk was again one-shotted. 
Plus she also was taken out by Rogue in one of last Legacy (much easier than Carol was in the same series).

AvX is covered in poor writing. Don't know why were using things that happen in it as proof.
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#24  Edited By jimroote99

team 2 gets tapped. iron man or namor could probably solo in both rounds

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#25  Edited By ChaosBlazer

@jimroote99: uh what does 'tapped' mean

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#26  Edited By jimroote99

@ChaosBlazer: sexually assaulted

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@jimroote99 said:

@ChaosBlazer: sexually assaulted

lol