Mystique Vs Black Canary

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#1  Edited By pcbh168

I think Mystique would win.
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#2  Edited By mrtrickster

canary if it's far distance.

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#3  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

At far-medium range: Black Canary.
At close range: Good fight, but I think Mystique would win.

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#4  Edited By PirateKing69
@JediXMan said:
" At far-medium range: Black Canary. At close range: Good fight, but I think Mystique would win. "
Mystique is that good in h2h? and BC can still do the cry up close 
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#5  Edited By Cats

Canary

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#6  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@PirateKing69 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" At far-medium range: Black Canary. At close range: Good fight, but I think Mystique would win. "
Mystique is that good in h2h? and BC can still do the cry up close  "
I think so. She once stated that she was capable of beating the squad outside of the bar that Osborn had as a backup plan if she didn't comply.
 
True. It just depends on whether she gets an opening to use it.
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#7  Edited By PirateKing69
@JediXMan said:
" @PirateKing69 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" At far-medium range: Black Canary. At close range: Good fight, but I think Mystique would win. "
Mystique is that good in h2h? and BC can still do the cry up close  "
 True. It just depends on whether she gets an opening to use it. "
hmm good point
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#8  Edited By EpitomeofCool
@JediXMan said:
" @PirateKing69 said:
" @JediXMan said:
" At far-medium range: Black Canary. At close range: Good fight, but I think Mystique would win. "
Mystique is that good in h2h? and BC can still do the cry up close  "
I think so. She once stated that she was capable of beating the squad outside of the bar that Osborn had as a backup plan if she didn't comply.  True. It just depends on whether she gets an opening to use it. "
stating is different than actually doing....I havent seen mystique do anything h2h on the level of canary.....know of anything in particular?
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#9  Edited By nefarious

Black Canary wins.

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#10  Edited By _Courage_

Mystique has no defense for Canary's cry.

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#11  Edited By LONGTIME
@JediXMan said:
" At far-medium range: Black Canary. At close range: Good fight, but I think Mystique would win. "
Your joking right? Canary is one of the top h2h fighters in the DCU, she would wreck Mystique in a dogfight.
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#12  Edited By charlieboy

canary would win. and i don't think she would need her canary cry.
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#13  Edited By Mercy_
@pcbh168 said:
" I think Mystique would win. "
Sighs.  
 
Don't make a battle with a clear winner in mind, that's called spite and it's not allowed. 
 
If you're actually serious about this and not just trolling, then you need to add more info into your OP, please read this.  
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#14  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@LONGTIME said:
" @JediXMan said:
" At far-medium range: Black Canary. At close range: Good fight, but I think Mystique would win. "
Your joking right? Canary is one of the top h2h fighters in the DCU, she would wreck Mystique in a dogfight. "
Wasn't joking. Mystique is a good fighter in her own right. And "dogfight?"
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#15  Edited By mrtrickster

mystique's body armor, claws and her healing factor makes up for her being a lesser skill fighter than black canary, I don't think it would be a easy dogfight for canary, unless she uses canary cry

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#16  Edited By charlieboy
@JediXMan:
i honestly think that canary is a superior fighter to mystique. carol danvers once defeat mystique h2h with no powers. i don't think carol is on dinah's level.
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@JediXMan said:
" @LONGTIME said:
" @JediXMan said:
" At far-medium range: Black Canary. At close range: Good fight, but I think Mystique would win. "
Your joking right? Canary is one of the top h2h fighters in the DCU, she would wreck Mystique in a dogfight. "
Wasn't joking. Mystique is a good fighter in her own right. And "dogfight?" "
Mystique is good, but she's not BC. Good. 
 
BC, Has held her own against team wreckers, like Cheshire, and DS.
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#18  Edited By nefarious

The lack of information is really frustrating.

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#19  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@Cats: 
 
DS? Deathstroke? Aside from Identity Crisis, I can't remember a time when they fought. And in that fight, Deathstroke beat her. He only started losing when Green Arrow hit Deathstroke in his eye socket (I don't think he has an eyeball there anymore - could be wrong) and the rest of the team jumped him.
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#20  Edited By charlieboy
@JediXMan:
they fought again in birds of prey. canary did not defeat him but she did managed to save everybody from him.
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#21  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

Why is everyone using the term "dogfight?" Do you guys know what that is? A dogfight is a fight between two aviators in combative aircraft (in other words: two planes fighting in the air). Some people use the term catfight to refer to two women fighting (I don't, but...)
 
It's kind of annoying me...

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#22  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@charlieboy said:
" @JediXMan: they fought again in birds of prey. canary did not defeat him but she did managed to save everybody from him. "
Do you have scans? I'd be rather interested in seeing this.
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#23  Edited By charlieboy
@JediXMan:
no i don't i will find the issue number for you tho.
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#24  Edited By EpitomeofCool
@JediXMan said:
" @charlieboy said:
" @JediXMan: they fought again in birds of prey. canary did not defeat him but she did managed to save everybody from him. "
Do you have scans? I'd be rather interested in seeing this. "
do you have any scans or proof of mystique even being a contender in this?
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#25  Edited By mrtrickster
@JediXMan: lol, then catfight it is
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#26  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@EpitomeofCool: 
 
I wasn't challenging him. I was genuinely curious.
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#27  Edited By EpitomeofCool
@JediXMan said:
" @EpitomeofCool:   I wasn't challenging him. I was genuinely curious. "
ok....but ive been asking you why you think mystique wins.....I to am curious...
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#28  Edited By charlieboy

 
 

@JediXMan:

you are cool. you have every right to ask for evidence... it was this issue if you get the chance to look it up.
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#29  Edited By LONGTIME

 Who has Mystique beaten in h2h combat that's notable?

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#30  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@EpitomeofCool said:
" @JediXMan said:
" @EpitomeofCool:   I wasn't challenging him. I was genuinely curious. "
ok....but ive been asking you why you think mystique wins.....I to am curious... "
Sadly, I don't have scans. But I'm pretty sure she's a good fighter in the MU. 
 
@LONGTIME said:
"  Who has Mystique beaten in h2h combat that's notable? "
She might have fought Wolverine a few times - actually I'm pretty sure she has.
 
@charlieboy: 
 
I believe that it happened. I wanted to see it.
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#31  Edited By charlieboy
@JediXMan:
i know that is why i  gave you the issue number so you can read it sometime if you come across it.
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#32  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@charlieboy said:
" @JediXMan: i know that is why i  gave you the issue number so you can read it sometime if you come across it. "
I'll try to look into it. Thanks.
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#33  Edited By charlieboy
@JediXMan:
no problem dude.
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#34  Edited By mrtrickster

just to put it out there, mystique's pretty strong, she's able to break through metal from a helicopter, she can make herself fly, and she can morph weapons. but I still give it to canary

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#35  Edited By LONGTIME

How good is Mystique's healing factor?

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#36  Edited By Cosmic_Falcon
@JediXMan said:
" @Cats:   DS? Deathstroke? Aside from Identity Crisis, I can't remember a time when they fought. And in that fight, Deathstroke beat her. He only started losing when Green Arrow hit Deathstroke in his eye socket (I don't think he has an eyeball there anymore - could be wrong) and the rest of the team jumped him. "
She fought Deathstroke along side Green Arrow in the last issue of Ollie's last solo series, she also fought Deathstroke in Birds of Prey.
 
I honestly know little about Mystique but doesn't she have enhanced physical attributes?  Or a healing factor?  I can't imagine her beating Canary on skill alone but maybe she has some power that I'm unaware of. 
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#37  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@mrtrickster said:
" just to put it out there, mystique's pretty strong, she's able to break through metal from a helicopter, she can make herself fly, and she can morph weapons. but I still give it to canary "
Since when can she fly or morph weapons?
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#38  Edited By mrtrickster
@JediXMan said:

" @mrtrickster said:

" just to put it out there, mystique's pretty strong, she's able to break through metal from a helicopter, she can make herself fly, and she can morph weapons. but I still give it to canary "
Since when can she fly or morph weapons? "
she got that upgrade years ago, this is from respect thread
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@LONGTIME said:

" How good is Mystique's healing factor? "

meh, not that good............but she could always shift her major organs to avoid vital damages
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#39  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@mrtrickster: 
 
Where's the top one from?
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#40  Edited By mrtrickster
@JediXMan: flying one is from her solo series I believe. I don't have the book so I don't know which issue it is
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#41  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@mrtrickster: 
 
I stand corrected, then. It's still weird, though, and I don't like that she has that ability.
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#42  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

Wait. Upon closer inspection, it doesn't look like she's morphing weapons in that picture. The one shot looks like she's regrowing a limb. We don't see her making the guns. She has a truck full of guns behind her in the final panel - therefore, I would have to assume she got them from there.

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#43  Edited By Mercy_
@JediXMan said:
" @charlieboy said:
" @JediXMan: i know that is why i  gave you the issue number so you can read it sometime if you come across it. "
I'll try to look into it. Thanks. "
I have a crap ton of BC and other BOP scans. I'll see if I can find it. 
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#44  Edited By mrtrickster
@JediXMan said:
" Wait. Upon closer inspection, it doesn't look like she's morphing weapons in that picture. The one shot looks like she's regrowing a limb. We don't see her making the guns. She has a truck full of guns behind her in the final panel - therefore, I would have to assume she got them from there. "
according to the respect thread, the truck was empty before that, she morph her clothes to an arsenal
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#45  Edited By HumanX

Which one has the better martial arts background? That one would probably be the decider but if Mystique faked serious injury then she could get the upper hand on Canary. I'm not an expert on either though.

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#46  Edited By Silver2467

Canary never held her own against Slade in BoP. When Deathstroke fought the Birds, a few of them attacked him to grant Dinah an opportunity to use her cry. She moved in to fake him out and switch to use of her scream, which Deathstroke saw through. Huntress, who was on the ground after having been bludgeoned by the pommel of Slade's sword, stabbed him in the leg with an arrow. After this happened, Canary rushed him and gouged his eye, to which Slade's reply was that he had no need to see her to kill her. However, Canary had an opportunity to use her cry, but Deathstroke held Lady Blackhawk off the building and threatened to drop her unless the Birds allowed him to escape. Throughout this entire encounter, Canary's internal monologue could basically be condensed to, "Slade is better than me, and I am going to lose." She never stood a chance without her scream in a straight fight, and she still fared poorly even with the help of the other Birds. 
 
Not a legit showing.

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#47  Edited By Cosmic_Falcon
@JediXMan: She also fought Deathstroke in the GA Canary Wedding special where she tried kicking him in the nuts but he was wearing a cup. 
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In a pure H2H fight, BC wins. She's one of the top 10 best DC martial artists.

With powers, BC would still probably win. Mystique is versatile, but she can't defend against the Canary Cry

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MISMATCH!

Black Canary's fighting skills are way more impressive than anything Mystique has ever shown!

And, her Canary Cry would kill her!