Location: An abandoned warehouse
Scenario: Nobody knows who Mysterio really is under his helmet, and Riddler is dying to find out the answer. He has been doing research and investigating for two weeks now, and finally comes across a clue that leads him to this abandoned warehouse that Mysterio is supposedly hiding in. Just as Riddler enters the warehouse, a security system alarms Mysterio and he sees the intruder. It takes 15 minutes for Riddler and Mysterio to finally come face to face, and a fight ensues. Who wins?
Mysterio vs The Riddler
Mysterio wins easily, but, to be fair, Nigma is one of only four Batman rogues to find out Batman's identity (the others being Hugo Strange, Bane and Catwoman).
" Riddler with prep beats Mysterio. "Agreed
but in the for mentioned scenario Mysterio has the upper hand
I Mysterio's last appearance (Guardian Devil) his suit was outfitted with cybernetics that enhanced his strength to superhuman levels. If this is a straight up fight then he wins.
Dont be modest admit its a spite thread against the riddler.Mysterio stomps edward is a joke,now if it were spellbinder from batman beyond it could have been a different story.
Edward isnt even smart enough to tie his own shoelaces.he is the most pathetic batman rogue out there( i dont consider guys like humpty dumpty,killer moth etc to be rogues just annoyances).
THANK GOD NOLAN ISNT USING HIM
"@The Mjolnir Wielder: Edward isnt even smart enough to tie his own shoelaces.he is the most pathetic batman rogue out there( i dont consider guys like humpty dumpty,killer moth etc to be rogues just annoyances). THANK GOD NOLAN ISNT USING HIM "
This is just straight up wrong.
" @The Mjolnir Wielder: Edward isnt even smart enough to tie his own shoelaces.he is the most pathetic batman rogue out there( i dont consider guys like humpty dumpty,killer moth etc to be rogues just annoyances). THANK GOD NOLAN ISNT USING HIM "Have you read anything after Batman: Hush?
Yes and he did nothing there. everytime i see him he's getting his A$$ kicked by someone ,he was schooled by bane in knightfall,hush in hush returns,begged the joker for protection,was manipulated by ivy,harley and catwoman, and was owned by a no name villian called blackspell.
" @Decoy Elite: Yes and he did nothing there. everytime i see him he's getting his A$$ kicked by someone ,he was schooled by bane in knightfall,hush in hush returns,begged the joker for protection,was manipulated by ivy,harley and catwoman, and was owned by a no name villian called blackspell. "Um, did you even read Batman: Hush?
Prove it was his plan,cause in hush returns and gotham sirens he made it clear it was all hush.
And hush itself is a poor mans knightfall ,a vastly overrated story with typical jeph loeb storytelling(just throw in as many characters as you could)
"Mysterio wins easily, but, to be fair, Nigma is one of only four Batman rogues to find out Batman's identity (the others being Hugo Strange, Bane and Catwoman). "I think you left out Ra's Al Ghul
" @entropy_aegis:Just because you have issues with Loeb doesn't make the story any less true. "It's clearly stated at the end of Hush(you know the actual story) that everything was planned by Riddler. He was the one who figured out who Batman was and was clearly the one who was able to convince Hush to help out with his plan and recruit the other villains.
i've read it, it doesnt mean anything,it was just loeb going for his threatrics similar to the gilda dent/alberto falcone mess he created in long halloween,and hush is terrible story saved by jim lee's art and the tons of characters loeb threw in there to make the story look good.
i mean it didnt even have a orignal plot (just a poor mans knightfall).
MYSTERIO STOMPS WITH OR WITHOUT PREP. and he figured out his identity due to lazarus pits accelerating his brian. and it doesnt mean anything since almost every major batman rogue knows the secret.
"@The Mjolnir Wielder said:"Mysterio wins easily, but, to be fair, Nigma is one of only four Batman rogues to find out Batman's identity (the others being Hugo Strange, Bane and Catwoman). "I think you left out Ra's Al Ghul "
He also forgot to mention,talia,nyssa,slade,david cain ,hush,jason,tim drake,lady shiva,bane,dr hurt . i could really go on.
It's clear you just have an issue with the story for whatever reason and it's coloring your perceptions. Although I'd say Riddler with prep would be able to take Mysterio without prep. However...
@Deadcool said:
" @Strafe Prower said:" Riddler with prep beats Mysterio. "And What about a Riddler with prep vs a Mysterio with prep? "
Mysterio would win as he's better with combat.
" @entropy_aegis: A majority of Batman's Rouges don't know Batman's identity.
It's clear you just have an issue with the story for whatever reason and it's coloring your perceptions. Although I'd say Riddler with prep would be able to take Mysterio without prep. However...
@Deadcool said:" @Strafe Prower said:Mysterio would win as he's better with combat. "" Riddler with prep beats Mysterio. "And What about a Riddler with prep vs a Mysterio with prep? "
I have no issue with the story it was just plain bad and people dont see it for what it is. and ALL the rogues who are CAPABLE OF POSING A THREAT TO BRUCE KNOW HIS IDENTITY.
Joker knows it buddy,there are many clayfaces and i believe 2 of them knew,ivy knew it one point ,but she died and returned without the knowledge and she isnt a villian anymore either. nice try
I don't care if you don't like Batman: Hush or if you don't like Riddler.
This isn't a debate at this point so we're done here.
Black mask and deadshot are the only credible villians who dont know ,but in deadshots case it doesnt matter since he intentially holds back against bruce.
I dont hate riddler ,his personality is interesting but his skills,intelligence,modus operandi etc are all outdated he is simple case of a failed villian,he only works in early batman stories where bruce is inexperienced and is mostly a realistic crime fighter,but at this point he is obsolete.
and i'd like to add that the only two storylines (hush ,dark knight dark city) which made riddler in to an interesting threat had him portrayed very differently from what he logically should be .he is supposed to be a criminal who leaves clues but in hush he was a manipulator and in dark knight dark city he was obssesed with raising demons WOW .he along with mr freeze,penguin and some others is a failed viilian but most people dont see it that way cause they grew up with these guys(animated series and burton/schumacher movies).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nfOqkaaE00 Mysterio got magic that can kill spider man and riddler can-t
@entropy_aegis: Suuuuuuurrrrreeee, because beating up batman while amped up on Venomand having to be machine-gunned down, as well as Zero Year, makes a villain uninteresting.
@grievous88: Did Riddler plan to get Venom pumped into him? Uhhh nooooo, that was Bane. I didn't read year zero, but I did read Knightfall. I don't see why you'd say that unless you didn't actually read Knightfall.
@senator_estro: My point was Edward isn't an uninteresting character like he said. Oh, and Entropy? You should read Catwoman: When In Rome. It should help change your view.
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