http://www.comicvine.com/mysterio/4333/
http://www.comicvine.com/scarecrow/3726/
vs
http://www.comicvine.com/spider-man/1443/
who, how, any why?
Spider-Man. After his upgrade in "The Other" his spider-sense has kicked into overdrive and so he can sense where the real danger is when fighting Mysterio and Scarecrow. Not to mention his physical attributes are incredible too. Peter has shown a resistance to any fear induced illusions, during both the Civil War, and in Reign (alternate Universe, but same concept). Pete should be handle these two goons no sweat.
acewasp23 says:
"so the Scarecrow's fear dust woundnt affect peter? "
It would but Peter would fight through it. He's done it before
Eternal Chaos says:
"acewasp23 says:"so the Scarecrow's fear dust woundnt affect peter? "It would but Peter would fight through it. He's done it before"
i think between the 2 of them they could break him down with images of his family dieing and using what ever other fears he may have, i think he could only take so much.
acewasp23 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"acewasp23 says:i think between the 2 of them they could break him down with images of his family dieing and using what ever other fears he may have, i think he could only take so much. ""so the Scarecrow's fear dust woundnt affect peter? "It would but Peter would fight through it. He's done it before"
yea but his spiderman would probably overcome that and while he sees the bad images he can just rely on his spider sense (which is awesome)
acewasp23 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"acewasp23 says:i think between the 2 of them they could break him down with images of his family dieing and using what ever other fears he may have, i think he could only take so much. ""so the Scarecrow's fear dust woundnt affect peter? "It would but Peter would fight through it. He's done it before"
That's been tried before as well. Peter is one of those people that over comes his fears to stop the greater evil and if he knows what he's being shown illusions (which he has before when fighting mysterio recently) than he'll see through them. Peter's like that. I'm sure he can get out of it.
acewasp23 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"acewasp23 says:i think between the 2 of them they could break him down with images of his family dieing and using what ever other fears he may have, i think he could only take so much. ""so the Scarecrow's fear dust woundnt affect peter? "It would but Peter would fight through it. He's done it before"
That's been tried before as well. Peter is one of those people that over comes his fears to stop the greater evil and if he knows what he's being shown illusions (which he has before when fighting mysterio recently) than he'll see through them. Peter's like that. I'm sure he can get out of it.
Copy says:
"acewasp23 says:"Eternal Chaos says:yea but his spiderman would probably overcome that and while he sees the bad images he can just rely on his spider sense (which is awesome)""acewasp23 says:i think between the 2 of them they could break him down with images of his family dieing and using what ever other fears he may have, i think he could only take so much. ""so the Scarecrow's fear dust woundnt affect peter? "It would but Peter would fight through it. He's done it before"
yeah that's what I'm getting at, the toxin works on all his senses and should work on the spider sense as well and it doesn't just show him any fear but it shows the infected what they fear the most. Mysterio and Scarecrow would probably work together pretty well with Mysterio's knowledge of spiderman and Scarecrows fear casting abilities.
Eternal Chaos says:
"acewasp23 says:"Eternal Chaos says:That's been tried before as well. Peter is one of those people that over comes his fears to stop the greater evil and if he knows what he's being shown illusions (which he has before when fighting mysterio recently) than he'll see through them. Peter's like that. I'm sure he can get out of it. ""acewasp23 says:i think between the 2 of them they could break him down with images of his family dieing and using what ever other fears he may have, i think he could only take so much. ""so the Scarecrow's fear dust woundnt affect peter? "It would but Peter would fight through it. He's done it before"
yeah and one of the bast parts about this battle is it could start with out spiderman noticing it least i don't think Scarecrows fear gasses would kick off spidermans spidersence. Batman even had trouble fighting through Scarecrow's illusions.
Spider-Man wins this one. He has had experince with fear dust, in fact when he was caught off guard it messed him up in the Civil War. As for these two though, Spider-Man is experinced at dealing with Mysterio's illusions and with his Spider-Sense can guide himself through them. Scarecrow only has fear gas and as soon as he hits each of them this battle is over in once punch. I am going to have to give it to Spider-Man.
I don't know about Mysterio, but Scarecrow sure isn't going to fight Spider-Man head on. He's smarter than that, plus that's not his style.
acewasp23 says:
"yeah that's what I'm getting at, the toxin works on all his senses and should work on the spider sense as well and it doesn't just show him any fear but it shows the infected what they fear the most. Mysterio and Scarecrow would probably work together pretty well with Mysterio's knowledge of spiderman and Scarecrows fear casting abilities. "
Interesting thought, but I dont think you can claim that the fear dust would work on a sense that Scarecrow had no idea of. Just because the write up says that it works on all senses doesn't mean that if some alien came to other and was exposed to the toxin, that the toxin would work on all of his 56 senses. It says it works on all senses because it works on all known senses, so I wouldnt assume that it works on the spider sense.
acewasp23 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"acewasp23 says:yeah and one of the bast parts about this battle is it could start with out spiderman noticing it least i don't think Scarecrows fear gasses would kick off spidermans spidersence. Batman even had trouble fighting through Scarecrow's illusions. ""Eternal Chaos says:That's been tried before as well. Peter is one of those people that over comes his fears to stop the greater evil and if he knows what he's being shown illusions (which he has before when fighting mysterio recently) than he'll see through them. Peter's like that. I'm sure he can get out of it. ""acewasp23 says:i think between the 2 of them they could break him down with images of his family dieing and using what ever other fears he may have, i think he could only take so much. ""so the Scarecrow's fear dust woundnt affect peter? "It would but Peter would fight through it. He's done it before"
Batman and Spider-Man are two totally different people though. I'll give you an example even though it's from an alternate/future reality. Peter inhaled Mysterio's pure, fear, halucinagenic gasses and fought through them while fighting Kraven.
acewasp23 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:Spider-Man would have a greater immunity to it due to his powers. I am not even sure it would work unless at a higher dosage or it wouldn't last as long."acewasp23 says:yeah and one of the bast parts about this battle is it could start with out spiderman noticing it least i don't think Scarecrows fear gasses would kick off spidermans spidersence. Batman even had trouble fighting through Scarecrow's illusions. ""Eternal Chaos says:That's been tried before as well. Peter is one of those people that over comes his fears to stop the greater evil and if he knows what he's being shown illusions (which he has before when fighting mysterio recently) than he'll see through them. Peter's like that. I'm sure he can get out of it. ""acewasp23 says:i think between the 2 of them they could break him down with images of his family dieing and using what ever other fears he may have, i think he could only take so much. ""so the Scarecrow's fear dust woundnt affect peter? "It would but Peter would fight through it. He's done it before"
Forever says:
"acewasp23 says:"yeah that's what I'm getting at, the toxin works on all his senses and should work on the spider sense as well and it doesn't just show him any fear but it shows the infected what they fear the most. Mysterio and Scarecrow would probably work together pretty well with Mysterio's knowledge of spiderman and Scarecrows fear casting abilities. "Interesting thought, but I dont think you can claim that the fear dust would work on a sense that Scarecrow had no idea of. Just because the write up says that it works on all senses doesn't mean that if some alien came to other and was exposed to the toxin, that the toxin would work on all of his 56 senses. It says it works on all senses because it works on all known senses, so I wouldnt assume that it works on the spider sense."
that's a good point i don't know if it would work even with a high dosage, i guess it would be something that would have to be better explored in the comics.
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