Muhammed Ali vs Mike Tyson

12 rounds 
winner by knock out 
you only get 3 illegal shots before your DQ 
both in their prime 
who wins? and why.

Ali wins
Tyson was an F-ing fool who fought a lot of chumps in fixed matches, even in his PRIME got owned by a Rookie called Buster Douglas
 

" Ali wins
Tyson was an F-ing fool who fought a lot of chumps in fixed matches, even in his PRIME got owned by a Rookie called Buster Douglas
 

  It took giants like Smoking Joe and Foreman to give Ali trouble Tyson was terrified of fighting guys like old George why? Tyson is getting put on his butt and at the same time Foreman is back from the dead and in less than two full rounds mutilates hard hitting Cooney sending him back into  retirement.  permanently Tyson ran whenever Foreman's name was mentioned and with good reason, he was nothing compared to the giants "

ALI ALI ALI

ali easy tyson could only fight chumps and use power ali could pick apart people who could not only box but box well

"The problem with Ali is that everyone buys in to the hype that he himself created.  I can name a half dozen fighters off the top of my head who would molest Ali.Tyson prime only needs one shot to the liver to end this. pre Buster Douglas it was rare for a Tyson fight to go over 2 and a half minutes, however he has gone the distance a few times as well, so Ali wouldn't have been able to tire him out like he did with George and Sonny.  And Ali prime lost to an extremely over the hill Frazier, and to leon spinks among others. not to mention Ali fought on average once or twice a year, Tyson fought practically every month. In fact a couple time he fought more than once a month. That is unheard of in professional boxing(except Rocky Marciano of course.) What that means is that Tyson was always primed and ready, while Ali had to take  a few rounds to knock off the ring rust.  Tyson would make it very difficult to take that time. p.s.  Ali was not known for being an especially hard hitter, he was known for technical skill(for which I believe he was still overrated) and for mind games(his only chance angainst a fighter like Iron Mike(think Rocky three). "

"Ali wins
Tyson was an F-ing fool who fought a lot of chumps in fixed matches, even in his PRIME got owned by a Rookie called Buster Douglas
 

  It took giants like Smoking Joe and Foreman to give Ali trouble Tyson was terrified of fighting guys like old George why? Tyson is getting put on his butt and at the same time Foreman is back from the dead and in less than two full rounds mutilates hard hitting Cooney sending him back into  retirement.  permanently Tyson ran whenever Foreman's name was mentioned and with good reason, he was nothing compared to the giants "

I'm gonna say Tyson on this one (equips flame shield). You're not going to ropeadope his shots. That'd be a quick way to get internal bleeding or KTFO. As a sport grows so does the level of talent. Ali was better than most of the competition in his era, but he'd get starched by today's talent pool.

"I'm gonna say Tyson on this one (equips flame shield). You're not going to ropeadope his shots. That'd be a quick way to get internal bleeding or KTFO. As a sport grows so does the level of talent. Ali was better than most of the competition in his era, but he'd get starched by today's talent pool. "

Ali.

Ali ftw. When he fought Big George Foreman everyone apart from Ali & his camp thought George would murder him because he was past his prime.Jeez did they get that wrong.Big George was an Animal of a Fighter with huge punching power that imo would have taken Tyson out the same he did to Frazier & Norton.

" @Deo Wade: that's false, ali would know his opponent and he knows just how to get into his head. he wouldnt ropeadope him knowin how powerful his punches are.he most definitely wouldnt be beat by somebody as weak minded as tyson. tyson had absolutely no skill he just knew to throw hard  punches and thats it, ali had real skills and thats why he only lost five matches his whole career. ali fought more fights than mike and lost less than he did.mike lost to people that weren't half as skilled as the people ali fought. there's no way that mike tyson could have beat ali in his prime when he couldnt even take holyfield. "

" The problem with Ali is that everyone buys in to the hype that he himself created.  I can name a half dozen fighters off the top of my head who would molest Ali.Tyson prime only needs one shot to the liver to end this. pre Buster Douglas it was rare for a Tyson fight to go over 2 and a half minutes, however he has gone the distance a few times as well, so Ali wouldn't have been able to tire him out like he did with George and Sonny.  And Ali prime lost to an extremely over the hill Frazier, and to leon spinks among others. not to mention Ali fought on average once or twice a year, Tyson fought practically every month. In fact a couple time he fought more than once a month. That is unheard of in professional boxing(except Rocky Marciano of course.) What that means is that Tyson was always primed and ready, while Ali had to take  a few rounds to knock off the ring rust.  Tyson would make it very difficult to take that time. p.s.  Ali was not known for being an especially hard hitter, he was known for technical skill(for which I believe he was still overrated) and for mind games(his only chance angainst a fighter like Iron Mike(think Rocky three). "

" @Deo Wade: that's false, ali would know his opponent and he knows just how to get into his head. he wouldnt ropeadope him knowin how powerful his punches are.he most definitely wouldnt be beat by somebody as weak minded as tyson. tyson had absolutely no skill he just knew to throw hard  punches and thats it, ali had real skills and thats why he only lost five matches his whole career. ali fought more fights than mike and lost less than he did.mike lost to people that weren't half as skilled as the people ali fought. there's no way that mike tyson could have beat ali in his prime when he couldnt even take holyfield. "

Ali was nothong but hype. He proved he could beat hacks, amateurs, and old men and even a lot of these he had to win by decision.  If that makes him the greatest then that makes me sad.

" @Deo Wade: and the other people ali lost to were legends, im not sure but i dont think anybody he lost to were rookies. 
@yodagod: 37 ko's,  that's hype. mike tyson hasnt won against anybody that was really great. u obviously havent seen that many of ali's fights if u say he's all hype. when he first started boxing he beat people that were considered the best at that time and alot of them being way more skilled fighters than mike tyson. dont disrespect somebody like ali by sayin that his career was all hype. i can understand not thinkin he was the greatest (which he is) but he not all hype. "

@cascadeking09:
I'm a huge fight fan and have seen most of Ali's bouts.  Ali is a good classical boxer, and a decent counter puncher, but for somebody to say they're the greatest practically at the beginning off their career is an immense overstatement by an egomaniac. And for the general public to buy it is the very definition of hype.  Besides you saying that Tyson is just a fighter and not a boxer makes it sound to me like you haven't seen many of Mike's fights.  Tyson is an extremely talented infighter and a good counterpuncher,  both of which are styles that a classical boxer is susceptible to.

" @Deo Wade:  rocky marciano wasnt the geatest either. i never said spinks was a legend, as far as know tyson never beat let alone koed a legend. few is better than none.
@yodagod: i have several tapes full of mike tyson's fights, he never showed anything in fight that made me believe he had skills. you say that ur a fan of ali but then you said that its wrong for him to say that he's the greatest at the beginning of his career. to me that should be something a fan knows. ali learned from a profesional wrestler or somethin like that that more people will come to his fights if they see him calling out great fighters claiming he could beat them and calling himself the greatest to see him lose. thats the reason behind him claimin to be the greatest he wasnt the first person to do that, ali did things that alot of really great boxers werent even capable of thats what makes him the greatest not just hype. "

Ali 

" @Deo Wade: u keep misreading what say, i said marciano's not the greatest i didnt say he wasnt a canidate. when i said that when tyson got beat by holyfield he wasnt in his prime, but trevor berbick wasnt somebody young im not gon say he was gettin old but thats messed up to dismiss somethin i say and then say basically the same. there's no way tyson would've beaten ali in his prime. Tyson at 20 vs ali at 20 would end with tyson mouth peice on the canvas with his head right next to it. "

" @Deo Wade: and one last thing, i tyson beatin larry holmes and trevor doesnt make him better and the same thing goes with trevor berbick beatin ali "

Tyson.  Tyson lost focus and discipline once he fired Rooney.  At his Prime would mean the older disciplined Tyson under Rooney or D'Amato.  After that Tyson overly relied  on one punch knockouts. 
 
Ali is overrated.  For greatest, I'd go with Marciano or Joe Louis.

" Tyson.  Tyson lost focus and discipline once he fired Rooney.  At his Prime would mean the older disciplined Tyson under Rooney or D'Amato.  After that Tyson overly relied  on one punch knockouts.   Ali is overrated.  For greatest, I'd go with Marciano or Joe Louis. "

"@Deo Wade said:

"I'm gonna say Tyson on this one (equips flame shield). You're not going to ropeadope his shots. That'd be a quick way to get internal bleeding or KTFO. As a sport grows so does the level of talent. Ali was better than most of the competition in his era, but he'd get starched by today's talent pool. "

Hes better than anyother era of Heavyweights ever. Joe Louis is the best P4P fighter in the history of the game though. "

" @Lantern Prime said:

"@Deo Wade said:

"I'm gonna say Tyson on this one (equips flame shield). You're not going to ropeadope his shots. That'd be a quick way to get internal bleeding or KTFO. As a sport grows so does the level of talent. Ali was better than most of the competition in his era, but he'd get starched by today's talent pool. "

Hes better than anyother era of Heavyweights ever. Joe Louis is the best P4P fighter in the history of the game though. "

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" @Lantern Prime said:

" @Lantern Prime said:

"@Deo Wade said:

"I'm gonna say Tyson on this one (equips flame shield). You're not going to ropeadope his shots. That'd be a quick way to get internal bleeding or KTFO. As a sport grows so does the level of talent. Ali was better than most of the competition in his era, but he'd get starched by today's talent pool. "

Hes better than anyother era of Heavyweights ever. Joe Louis is the best P4P fighter in the history of the game though. "

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have you all forgotten the fact that Ali beat Sonny Liston... a boxer who had very heavy hands and a lot of power like a Mike Tyson ? Also... lets not act like George Foreman didnt have tremendous power in both hands either... George retired with 76 wins and 5 losses... and 68 of those wins were by Knockout... George had power to... even if it was quite Tyson level... but dont make it seem like Ali has never fought a boxer with Power before... and what about Earnie Shavers ? Earnie had great Power in both hands as well... and yet Ali defeated him too "

"@Lantern Prime said:

"@Deo Wade said:

"I'm gonna say Tyson on this one (equips flame shield). You're not going to ropeadope his shots. That'd be a quick way to get internal bleeding or KTFO. As a sport grows so does the level of talent. Ali was better than most of the competition in his era, but he'd get starched by today's talent pool. "

Hes better than anyother era of Heavyweights ever. Joe Louis is the best P4P fighter in the history of the game though. "

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You can be an all time great and still be overrated.  Tyson's like Favre.  The media and everyone else is in love with him.

" You can be an all time great and still be overrated."

"Ali is overrated.  For greatest, I'd go with Marciano or Joe Louis. "