Both in their prime.
UFC Octagon
Win: KO, Death
Who wins?
V.S.
Muhammad Ali Vs. Jackie Chan
Lol, I think your intention was to do Tony Jaa vs Jackie Chan and Mike Tyson vs Muhammad Ali...right?
omg..http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/killer-croc-vs-magneto-read-op/616823/
@Bucketz said:No. What you did was a complete and insane curbstomp that everyone posting in that thread was like "Wtf, is he crazy"? This is actually debatable and Boxing fans can back Ali up.@iplayps3_galactus said:PSH that is no where near as bad as this,mohamed ali already lost to a martial artist and didnt throw 1 punch,he screamed like a girl.omg..http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/killer-croc-vs-magneto-read-op/616823/
Lol Killer Croc vs Magneto. What a joke.
Jackie's not a real fighter. He's more of a martial performer specializing in stunts. Therefore, if it was a fair fight where he cannot use all tricks and means necessary to out-quick and out-maneuver Muhammad Ali (meaning that if he had to go toe-to-toe trading blows with Ali), then Jackie would lose. The only way Jackie would win is if there were no rules and Jackie had to use unconventional/unorthodox H2H means.
@Bucketz: You should really stop making these mismatch fights.
it's not just about jackie chan vs ali. it's more about styles... boxing whether if its ali or someone else, are purely strikers and strikers that are most comfortable using their arms to extend.@Lance Bastro: I'm wondering what the video is supposed to prove, considering the fact that it's a movie that's only loosely based on Yip Man. It's not even an accurate representation of his life, nor does it give Jackie any bit of hope against a professional fighter.
@Bucketz: You should really stop making these mismatch fights.
in kung fu whether if its shaolin, wing chun or the choreographed wushu is a practice of being comfortable using your entire body as "the weapon". let's say if there were two muhammad ali's from different realities of the same time-line. 1 of them became a legend at boxing while the other became a legend of kung-fu.... the kung-fu muhammad ali would win... or win more times than the boxer would.
and if there was a boxer jackie chan vs a kung fu jackie chan.... the same would be said.
@Bucketz said:I think Jackie wons clearly.@iplayps3_galactus said:Well sorry for offending the masses and insulting the wealthy race of comic book fans,may i be hung LMFAO.@Bucketz said:No. What you did was a complete and insane curbstomp that everyone posting in that thread was like "Wtf, is he crazy"? This is actually debatable and Boxing fans can back Ali up. Lol Killer Croc vs Magneto. What a joke.@iplayps3_galactus said:PSH that is no where near as bad as this,mohamed ali already lost to a martial artist and didnt throw 1 punch,he screamed like a girl.omg..http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/killer-croc-vs-magneto-read-op/616823/
This is ridiculous though,Jackie chan has never really competed and ali competed 1 time and looked like an assclown
And BTW... wtf is that guy in the video trying throwing himself to the ground so many times? He doesn't even catch Ali's leg, is kinda wierd :S
it's not just about jackie chan vs ali. it's more about styles... boxing whether if its ali or someone else, are purely strikers and strikers that are most comfortable using their arms to extend. in kung fu whether if its shaolin, wing chun or the choreographed wushu is a practice of being comfortable using your entire body as "the weapon". let's say if there were two muhammad ali's from different realities of the same time-line. 1 of them became a legend at boxing while the other became a legend of kung-fu.... the kung-fu muhammad ali would win... or win more times than the boxer would. and if there was a boxer jackie chan vs a kung fu jackie chan.... the same would be said.
Even if they are purely strikers, they are trained to compete and take punishment in actual fights. Jackie Chan is only trained to perform martial arts as a means of putting on a show, using choreographed moves and stuntwork to entertain an audience. He isn't trained to compete or fight other skilled opponents with it. The purpose of his fighting ability is theatrical. Why is it that he's never fought professionally or actually competed against skilled fighters outside of motion pictures? How can we be sure of how skilled he really is if he's never competed before? It's all about how each fighter is trained and what they are trained for. Even if Jackie is using his whole body as a weapon, is he actually powerful enough to hurt Muhammad Ali (striking power)? Can he last long enough to fight him (endurance; boxers in Ali's time fought for 15 rounds)? Is Jackie durable enough to withstand punches from a professional boxer (supposed to be more than two to three times as powerful than the punch of an average person)? We don't know the answer to any of these questions, but considering the type of training Jackie has had, it's safe to assume to that he doesn't have what it takes to win here.
So much for Wing Chun. Bruce Lee has even admitted that Muhammad Ali would beat him in an actual fight. People seem to think that whatever they see in martial arts films extends to the real world, which isn't always the case. A lot of martial arts is bullcrap. Watching too many martial arts films is the reason for this, and even then, most of the martial artists within them aren't actual fighters, nor have they competed.
Would this have a different result if it was Bruce Lee instead of Muhammad Ali?No. It wouldn't be different at all.
@Static Shock: I've seen videos of both of them in tournaments, but I haven't seen the fights from Bruce when he did just him at the tournament.I've seen the same videos. Bruce Lee only did demonstrations in those tournaments. He never competed.
@Static Shock: U sure?If you are referring to the Long Beach Karate Championships that he appeared in, he only did demonstrations (one-inch punch in 1964 and unstoppable punch in 1967). He had one sparring demonstration for Jeet Kune Do in another tournament.
Jim Kelly, however, is supposed to be a middleweight champion in karate (just looked it up). I'd put him up against Ali before I'd put Bruce or Jackie.
Wow... just wow... Ali would destroy, absolutely destroy, Jacki Chan within moments.
I gotta wonder how some people figure close to 100lbs of body weight (in Ali's case mostly muscle) can be overcome? Someone with such a weight advantage would have to have almost zero training to be taken down by someone half their size like that. Ali was a master striker...
This thread my friends, is pure Spite.
@cascadeking09: Yep. Other than that, it's very likely that Bruce has never, ever competed professionally. People talk of his 'boxing record,' but there's nothing that verifies it, nor is there information on the people he's fought. All other fights, which weren't professional, were all eye-witness accounts. He may still be the greatest martial artist of all time, but it doesn't mean that he's greatest fighter on top of that. He's more of a teacher than a fighter. Jim Kelly, however, is supposed to be a middleweight champion in karate (just looked it up). I'd put him up against Ali before I'd put Bruce or Jackie.Yeah, he's a beast.
Yeah, he's a beast.Hell, I'd put Van Damme against Muhammad Ali before I'd put Jackie or Bruce. Van Damme has a professional record. He was 22 - 2 before he went into acting.
@cascadeking09 said:Have u seen kickboxer?Yeah, he's a beast.Hell, I'd put Van Damme against Muhammad Ali before I'd put Jackie or Bruce. Van Damme has a professional record. He was 22 - 2 before he went into acting.
Have u seen kickboxer?Yes. It was a good movie. Vinatage Van Damme for the win.
@Static Shock: But around the time Kickoxer or Double impact was made, didnt Vamm Damme get into a fight in a bar and was knockout from one hit the jaw?I didn't know about this, and I'm not sure what this is supposed to prove, either.
@Lance Bastro said:Wasn't Jackie Chan a Chinese boxing champion before he became an actor? He also leaned multiple martial arts as well.it's not just about jackie chan vs ali. it's more about styles... boxing whether if its ali or someone else, are purely strikers and strikers that are most comfortable using their arms to extend. in kung fu whether if its shaolin, wing chun or the choreographed wushu is a practice of being comfortable using your entire body as "the weapon". let's say if there were two muhammad ali's from different realities of the same time-line. 1 of them became a legend at boxing while the other became a legend of kung-fu.... the kung-fu muhammad ali would win... or win more times than the boxer would. and if there was a boxer jackie chan vs a kung fu jackie chan.... the same would be said.Even if they are purely strikers, they are trained to compete and take punishment in actual fights. Jackie Chan is only trained to perform martial arts as a means of putting on a show, using choreographed moves and stuntwork to entertain an audience. He isn't trained to compete or fight other skilled opponents with it. The purpose of his fighting ability is theatrical. Why is it that he's never fought professionally or actually competed against skilled fighters outside of motion pictures? How can we be sure of how skilled he really is if he's never competed before? It's all about how each fighter is trained and what they are trained for. Even if Jackie is using his whole body as a weapon, is he actually powerful enough to hurt Muhammad Ali (striking power)? Can he last long enough to fight him (endurance; boxers in Ali's time fought for 15 rounds)? Is Jackie durable enough to withstand punches from a professional boxer (supposed to be more than two to three times as powerful than the punch of an average person)? We don't know the answer to any of these questions, but considering the type of training Jackie has had, it's safe to assume to that he doesn't have what it takes to win here. So much for Wing Chun. Bruce Lee has even admitted that Muhammad Ali would beat him in an actual fight. People seem to think that whatever they see in martial arts films extends to the real world, which isn't always the case. A lot of martial arts is bullcrap. Watching too many martial arts films is the reason for this, and even then, most of the martial artists within them aren't actual fighters, nor have they competed.
Michael Jai White has trained in multiple styles, too. He's never competed professionally, saved for the street fighting he did in high school. Doesn't mean anything if you aren't trained for competition.
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