Thing is stronger physically, but I think Ms. Marvel's powers make up the difference. It'd be a real close battle of you ask me, who do you think would win?
@ancient_0f_days: i just couldn't let any1 get away with saying bens over class 100 lol its one of the most ridiculous things ive ever read on this site
Ms Marvel is class +100 now,she is way faster than Ben and unlike what some people here think,she does use her speed often,she also has the flight advantage and range advantage,her blasts have destroyed huge space ships easily,they will hurt Ben,Carol wins,she is overall more powerful.
Mr.Fantastic mentions this as She-Hulk lifts Bens max150tons with one hand.
Ben is a pretty good fighter and has a lot of endurance,and more durability and strength...Carol on the other hand can fly and can dish out consecutive blast...
I Say Thing wins 6/10 times...He'll find a way to close to gap and give her a beating.
@agent41: @somayareece: based on WHAT feats, lol? Danvers is garbage who got one-shot by a weaker version of Hulk without even being able to phase him with a barrage of hits, couldn't beat War Machine, got walked over by Wonder Man, couldn't even hurt Hercules, as well as very recently got one-shot by a guy who couldn't one shot Ben 50 years ago, before Ben got numerous amps (Mahkizmo). Her feats are all over the place, she fluctuates from not being able to beat a Doombot to stomping Blastaar (which is obviously an outlier seeing how people way stronger than her couldn't do the same). She isn't even consistently powerful enough to beat She-Hulk, let alone a legitimate powerhouse like Ben.
Later i will try to post feats to make a more effective argument. But let me tell you this. Losing to Wonder Man is not a low showing for her. Simon has done things that make him capable of beating Ben.
Yeah, too bad he lost to Ben on 3 separate occasions and failed to do anything to him while brainwashed and bloodlusted on another occasion. So her losing to Wonder Man is a low showing for her when you compare her to Ben.
ionic form of Wonder Man is no joke.
And yet Ben treated him like one.
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And unless i'm missing something, he was in that form when he took out Carol. Carol has seemed to have an upgrade since then.
I've heard this many times before, but I've yet to see an official confirmation that she got upgraded (and that the upgrade was significant). Do you have proof of her being upgraded by any chance?
Which is why i didn't see Ben stomping. I will come back later with some feats.
Catching a falling pod. And throws it with enough force to send it flting from elis island to new jersey.
Scan that says she threw it into New Jersey? Even if so, that's not impressive. Distance from NYC to New Jersey is only about 80 km. Ben casually punched a skrull capsule from Iowa to Louisiana (whooping 1213 km):
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Marvel Knights Spider-Man #17-18
As well as threw things into orbit and all around the planet:
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Fantastic Four #323, Inhumans Once And Future Kings #1
Lifting the top of a skyscraper.
Not impressive. Ben could casually overpower a machine strong enough to level a small mountain:
Marvel Two-In-One #77
And lift a lid of a shrunken city, while being shrunk proportionally with the city:
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Fantastic Four #401
As well as choke the tunnel with "enough rock to build a mountain":
Fantastic Four vol.3 #25
All feats much more impressive than catching a piece of a skyscraper (and struggling to do so, judging by her grunts).
Turning a spaceship into a bat.
This spaceship looks pathetically tiny. Ben could play baseball with buildings since Fantastic Four #16, back when Ben was massively weaker than he is now:
Easily catching a big meteor.
You mean this scan? This "huge" meteor is barely the size of house.
Punching huge super skrull.
Once again, what's supposed to be impressive here?
Hit Ironman and send him flying high and through a airplane.
It doesn't really look like she even hurt Iron Man with that punch. Not to mention, you didn't show from where she punched Iron Man from (was it from the ground or were they already on the sky?). And third, this isn't impressive either. People like Rhino have enough strength to punch people into orbit, and Rhino is inferior to Ben.
She one-shotted another big meteor here.
Once again, judging from how big the meteor is compared to Carol herself and spaceships around her (as in, not very big - house-sized at best), this is not impressive.
Lifting a celestial.
Must be the most impressive lifting feat Carol has, judging from Celestial's size. Even then, it's overshadowed by lifting feats Ben has (the mountain-leveling press, shrunken city lid and the tunnel ones I showed above). Not to mention, he managed to lift (or flip, to be precise) someone much bigger than a Celestial anyway:
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Marvel Two-In-One #13
She also has a massive speed advantage over Ben.
She ain't got shit. All these scans basically show her being fast enough to go to space in short time. Well guess what, people like Black Bolt, Human Torch, Mar-Vell all could do the same thing:
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And guess what happened when all of then tried to bullrush/blitz Ben? They got decked in the face. Each one of them.
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And the same is going to happen to Carol. Only unlike Black Bolt or Mar-Vell, she won't be able to walk it off due to her durability being very lacking.
TL;DR: you've brought up 0 impressive feats for Carol. None of them give her any edge over Ben since Ben can and has performed feats way more impressive in every area (except for flying for obvious reasons). You haven't even brought up Carol fighting/beating any impressive characters (which might be because Carol has never consistently beaten anyone impressive). So yeah, Ben still stomps her.
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