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#1 Posted by castleking (24119 posts) - - Show Bio
#2 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't know too much about Ronan, other than the fact that Gamora was able to stand up to him.

#3 Posted by OhTru (1583 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
" Don't know too much about Ronan, other than the fact that Gamora was able to stand up to him. "
That's what Gamora does
She stands up to She-Hulk, Heralds, Thanos you name it she has probably hurt them
 
 
Ronan?   
He's a tough Kree and has a natural strength, speed and invulnerability

His armor once freaked Tony Stark out because it had all kinds of jammers,  shields, broadcasts, energy adaption, scanners, cloaking...it probably wouldn't scare Tony so much now but the Kree are pretty high tech and Ronan's armor can do impressive things 
 
He's an Accuser, he has great combat skills, great energy manipulation skills etc
 
He comes with a hammer, you can not pick it up unless you want to be fired to a crisp with feedback
 the hammer can drain energy, create forcefields, it can crush people with super gravity, the hammer can manipulate molecules it basically has all kinds of cosmic power if he points it at Carol he could blast her with a time field and make her age 500 years in an instant
#4 Posted by Vance Astro (91287 posts) - - Show Bio

1.Ms.Marvel already beat him in the classic era. 
2.Ronan had a hell of a time with Gamora who is below Ms.Marvel on almost every level.

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#5 Posted by castleking (24119 posts) - - Show Bio
i guess i can now pic my winner... i'll choice ronan...
#6 Posted by Vance Astro (91287 posts) - - Show Bio
@castleking said:
" i guess i can now pic my winner... i'll choice ronan...
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Because I chose Ms.Marvel?
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#7 Posted by castleking (24119 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" @castleking said:
" i guess i can now pic my winner... i'll choice ronan...
"
Because I chose Ms.Marvel? "
no. b/c of transmutation and ability to drain powers.......
#8 Posted by Vance Astro (91287 posts) - - Show Bio
@castleking said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @castleking said:
" i guess i can now pic my winner... i'll choice ronan...
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Because I chose Ms.Marvel? "
no. b/c of transmutation and ability to drain powers.......
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Neither of which will do him any good.
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#9 Posted by castleking (24119 posts) - - Show Bio
is she immune to transmutation?
#10 Posted by King Saturn (224456 posts) - - Show Bio
I think Carol can take Ronan...
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#11 Posted by Vance Astro (91287 posts) - - Show Bio
@castleking said:
" is she immune to transmutation?
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What transmutation showings does he have?
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#12 Posted by castleking (24119 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" @castleking said:
" is she immune to transmutation?
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What transmutation showings does he have? "
umm.........the one time when he froze a skrull and turned him into a statue..... :P
#13 Posted by Vance Astro (91287 posts) - - Show Bio
@castleking said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @castleking said:
" is she immune to transmutation?
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What transmutation showings does he have? "
umm.........the one time when he froze a skrull and turned him into a statue..... :P
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I'm sticking with Carol.
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#14 Posted by castleking (24119 posts) - - Show Bio
i;m just being a smart@$$.... i'll still side with Ronan
#15 Posted by OhTru (1583 posts) - - Show Bio
@castleking said:

" no. b/c of transmutation and ability to drain powers.......
"

 
He drains Ms Marvel quicker than Rogue did
 

 @Vance Astro said:

" What transmutation showings does he have? "

He can turn Miss Marvel into lump of plastic, he can transform her into a rock
 
 
Time to educate you people on Ronan
 
He can take Human Torch going Nova   
Kills a bunch of House Fiyero Troops with an Area.Of .Effect attack from his hammer
Owned a fellow Kree commander, knocked his brains out
Beat all the Fan Four like the were nothing, many times, has a BlackMercy style creature that turned Sue into a puppet slave
Soaks up Ironman's best shot
Took an attack by Blackbolt, turned his power against him
Without the hammer his armor can still blast  electric charges, freeze people or generate shielding
Goes one on one with a full confidence Gladiator    
stopped a battle fleet of Skrull ships, by himself
A Skrull with the power of Silver Surfer, Ronan beat that, Ronan wins
Traps the herald Nova inside a force of absolute cold
Remember Ravenous? The guy who fought Surfer and the planet blew up? Ronan knocks his brains out  
Hammer has time distorting powers, Ronan made people age decades in an insnat
The Avengers - owned them, owned them all, BFRs them
Laughed at Reed's devices, created a singularity and destoyed Reed throwing him into a blackhole
  
 








 


 



 
 
 






 
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#16 Posted by Vance Astro (91287 posts) - - Show Bio
@OhTru said:
 @Vance Astro said:

" What transmutation showings does he have? "

He can turn Miss Marvel into lump of plastic, he can transform her into a rock
 
Time to educate you people on Ronan
 
He can take Human Torch going Nova   
Kills a bunch of House Fiyero Troops with an Area.Of .Effect attack from his hammer
Owned a fellow Kree commander, knocked his brains out
Beat all the Fan Four like the were nothing, many times, has a BlackMercy style creature that turned Sue into a puppet slave
Soaks up Ironman's best shot
Took an attack by Blackbolt, turned his power against him
Without the hammer his armor can still blast  electric charges, freeze people or generate shielding
Goes one on one with a full confidence Gladiator    
stopped a battle fleet of Skrull ships, by himself
A Skrull with the power of Silver Surfer, Ronan beat that, Ronan wins
Traps the herald Nova inside a force of absolute cold
Remember Ravenous? The guy who fought Surfer and the planet blew up? Ronan knocks his brains out  
Hammer has time distorting powers, Ronan made people age decades in an insnat
The Avengers - owned them, owned them all, BFRs them
Laughed at Reed's devices, created a singularity and destoyed Reed throwing him into a blackhole
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When I asked Castleking for feats.I was expecting someone to tell me what they know about Ronan,not name a bunch of feats they saw on KMC.I have the ability to go to more sites than just CV.I could have seen all of these meaningless feats for myself. Let me just run down why these feats don't prove anything. 
 
1.What does Human Torch going Nova have to do with Ms.Marvel? You think she's going to match energy with someone far weaker than her? 
2.One weakling or a thousand...doesn't really matter.
3.Street Levelers have come close to beating the F4. 
4.Owning a Kree Commander is low end.Even some of the Hybrids are only class 15-25. 
5.How is soaking up Iron Man's best shot a feat for an energy manipulator? Especially when it's an old ass armor. 
6.It doesn't matter what he can generate without his hammer.None of it will stop Carol. 
7.Turning Blackbolt's power on him is also relative to his abilities.It's not a feat.It's like saying it's a feat for Havok not to hurt Cyclops when you know their powers don't hurt each other. 
8.Ms.Marvel also went one on one with Gladiator.She got owned but for once he was actually written right. 
9.Ravenous isn't as fast as Ms.Marvel and has had trouble beating people weaker than her.Not just weak ass Ronan. 
10.Ms.Marvel defeated hordes of skrulls,plus the Alpha Skrull and a World War Hulk Skrull 
11.If Ms.Marvel has already beaten Ronan solo. 
12.Laughing at Reed's devices is relative to Kree tech.Really has nothing to do with anything else or anything relevant to the thread.
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#17 Edited by OhTru (1583 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:

" If Ms.Marvel has already beaten Ronan solo.  "

She beat him after he beat the cr#p out of both her and Captain Marvel, then handcuffs them both and drags the two of them all they way back to the Kree world for punishment
Cap Marvel breaks free smashes into Ronan's back, Miss Marvel jumps him (when he's got no hammer)
 
and scores an absolutely hollow victory
 
Is that the fight you are ranting about?
#18 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

Ronan.

#19 Posted by HellionVulcan (3867 posts) - - Show Bio
The heart of a black sun
Its also a Hammer

Current Ronan from Annihilators was a beast & i think he'd wreck Ms marvel now much easier .

#20 Posted by Simon_the_digger (3091 posts) - - Show Bio

Ronan

#21 Posted by Scarbearer (734 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Carol can take this Ronan's Hammer is what makes him most dangerous. But I think she's fast enough and strong enough to disarm him quickly in the fight. Without it he's still super human, but I don't think he's on Carol's level with that regard.

#22 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5539 posts) - - Show Bio

Ronan

#23 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio

Could've sworn I saw this on TV the other day... :P

#24 Posted by TDK_1997 (14988 posts) - - Show Bio

From the scans I can say that Ronan probably wins.

#25 Posted by Vance Astro (91287 posts) - - Show Bio

Ms.Marvel already beat Ronan when she was weaker.I don't know why anyone thinks he can win now.

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#26 Posted by SupremeHyperion (1536 posts) - - Show Bio

Ronan..... when did she beat him? what book was that (wanna check it out)r

#27 Posted by Vance Astro (91287 posts) - - Show Bio
@SupremeHyperion said:

Ronan..... when did she beat him? what book was that (wanna check it out)r

Ms.Marvel v1 #19.
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#28 Edited by ThanoStomp (793 posts) - - Show Bio

Strength - Ronan is 80 ton with armor, 20 ton without. Carol is 75 ton and 100+ as Binary.

Speed - Carol easily

Energy Manipulation - Carol

Other - The Universal Weapon is very versetile. Ronan's armor is also pretty hi-tech.

Fighting Skill - Ronan

Tough call. Carol can absorb and project massive amounts of energy. And I think Ronan's armor can protect him from alot of that. I'm split.

If Carol goes Binary, it'll go just like it did on Avengers toon.

#29 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch said:

Could've sworn I saw this on TV the other day... :P

You did. Earth's Mightiest Heroes ring a bell :P

#30 Posted by texasdeathmatch (13171 posts) - - Show Bio
@venomoushatred1001: haha yup, pretty good episode.
#31 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@texasdeathmatch said:

@venomoushatred1001: haha yup, pretty good episode.

Yeah, I agree. I really enjoyed it.

#32 Posted by Vance Astro (91287 posts) - - Show Bio
@ThanoStomp said:

Strength - Ronan is 80 ton with armor, 20 ton without. Carol is 75 ton and 100+ as Binary.

Speed - Carol easily

Energy Manipulation - Carol

Other - The Universal Weapon is very versetile. Ronan's armor is also pretty hi-tech.

Fighting Skill - Ronan

Tough call. Carol can absorb and project massive amounts of energy. And I think Ronan's armor can protect him from alot of that. I'm split.

If Carol goes Binary, it'll go just like it did on Avengers toon.

Ronan isn't a better fighter than Carol.Also I don't see why Carol would have to become Binary to beat Ronan...he's not that durable.
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#33 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro: Just curious, do you have scans of the fight between Carol and Ronan? If so, can you post them?

#34 Posted by Greendevil (2049 posts) - - Show Bio

Ronan STOMPS!!!

Ronan has tangled with the Surfer. His hammer is to versatile and his fighting/combat skills makes him the favorite here. Ms Marvel is not in his league imo!

#35 Posted by Vance Astro (91287 posts) - - Show Bio
@Greendevil said:

Ronan STOMPS!!!

Ronan has tangled with the Surfer. His hammer is to versatile and his fighting/combat skills makes him the favorite here. Ms Marvel is not in his league imo!

Silver Surfer would mop the floor with Ronan..cut it out.Why do people keep talking about Ronan's skill..he doesn't have any fighting skill feats.He struggled with Gamora and she's below Ms.Marvel in EVERY category accept fighting skill.
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#36 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Ronan.

#37 Edited by Vance Astro (91287 posts) - - Show Bio
@jeanroygrant said:

Ronan.

How would Ronan beat Ms.Marvel? His showings overall are pathetic.
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#38 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Ronan.

How would Ronan beat Ms.Marvel? His showings overall are pathetic.

Hammer to face. lol i jk
here are scans

Can BFR her

Can use a Stasis Field

Tanks Iron Mans attack with no effect.

Localized Black Hole

Using Emp Blasts

Mind Controling

#39 Edited by Vance Astro (91287 posts) - - Show Bio
@jeanroygrant said:

Hammer to face. lol i jk

here are scans

Those scans don't prove anything.He BFR'd the Avengers because they were distracted, they didn't have time to move.He's not going to be able to to that to Ms.Marvel in motion.All of these feats rely Ronan having the speed to keep up with Ms.Marvel..which he doesn't.Any of these feats involving Ronan using energy will only help Ms.Marvel if they connect.
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#40 Posted by Greendevil (2049 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

Ronan STOMPS!!!

Ronan has tangled with the Surfer. His hammer is to versatile and his fighting/combat skills makes him the favorite here. Ms Marvel is not in his league imo!

@Greendevil said:
Silver Surfer would mop the floor with Ronan..cut it out.Why do people keep talking about Ronan's skill..he doesn't have any fighting skill feats.He struggled with Gamora and she's below Ms.Marvel in EVERY category accept fighting skill.

I agree, Surfer would beat him. But he would with most of Marvel Uni. Also i said he has tangled with the Surfer, and he has.

Saying he dosn't have fighting skills is ridiculous. He does have fighting skills or Gamora would have killed him. If i remember correctly she had the blade called the "God killer" He also beat Ravenous. Why hate on Ronan so much? He is like the Ned Stark of Cosmic Marvel.

#41 Edited by Greendevil (2049 posts) - - Show Bio

Ronan has "no fighting skills", but he looks pretty good fighting several Avengers at the same time including OWNING Ms Marvel (scan nr 4)

Ronan via S S S S S STOMPPP !!!!!!!

#42 Edited by Vance Astro (91287 posts) - - Show Bio
@Greendevil said:

Ronan has "no fighting skills", but he looks pretty good fighting several Avengers at the same time including OWNING Ms Marvel (scan nr 4)

Well first off there's no showing of skill in those scans and second of all he didn't own Ms.Marvel.She's seen flying in the proceeding panel so all he did was manage to cause her some momentary discomfort.Ronan has done nothing to suggest he can stomp Ms.Marvel.
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#43 Posted by HellionVulcan (3867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Greendevil said:

Ronan has "no fighting skills", but he looks pretty good fighting several Avengers at the same time including OWNING Ms Marvel (scan nr 4)

Ronan via S S S S S STOMPPP !!!!!!!

Ronan one shotted ms marvel right there & the thing lol plus he also did this

Its also a Hammer

silver surfer got hurt by him Ronan just badassed him could also use the annihilators bit where Ronan go's wild on a possessed gladiator was epic .

#44 Posted by HellionVulcan (3867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@Greendevil said:

Ronan has "no fighting skills", but he looks pretty good fighting several Avengers at the same time including OWNING Ms Marvel (scan nr 4)

Well first off there's no showing of skill in those scans and second of all he didn't own Ms.Marvel.She's seen flying in the proceeding panel so all he did was manage to cause her some momentary discomfort.Ronan has done nothing to suggest he can stomp Ms.Marvel.

she was down & out for the next 6 pages after Ronan knocked her away lol as greendevil posted mostly the main fight .

#45 Posted by Greendevil (2049 posts) - - Show Bio

@HellionVulcan:

Ronan is just a strait up PIMP. He would kill his comrades (Kallark) for the greater good. Hell he was about to wipe out Hala when the Phalanx took over. Ronan does not hold back and has little pity or mercy for his enemy's. His shields can take anything Carol can dish out. He has so many ways to stop her. But all he really needs to do is to buy her a drink lol.

#46 Posted by RainEffect (3240 posts) - - Show Bio

Ms. Marvel is getting stronger and stronger with every issue. Sure she was depowered for a moment when Karla took over, but since then, she's basically stomped all her adversaries (not talking New Avengers adversaries). I'm not too familiar with Ronan, but she's taken on cosmic foes plenty a time.

My knowledge of Ms. Marvel says she takes this.

#47 Edited by HellionVulcan (3867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Greendevil said:

@HellionVulcan:

Ronan is just a strait up PIMP. He would kill his comrades (Kallark) for the greater good. Hell he was about to wipe out Hala when the Phalanx took over. Ronan does not hold back and has little pity or mercy for his enemy's. His shields can take anything Carol can dish out. He has so many ways to stop her. But all he really needs to do is to buy her a drink lol.

thats what i like about him hes ruthless & whenever someone thinks hes to weak he proves them wrong always liked him since the annihilation/conquest .

Ronan slam Ms marvel

had to make this gif cause it was awesome edit don't know how to link gifs here lol just click pic ... Ronan keeps the pimp slam strong

#48 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@Greendevil said:


That's not the Silver Surfer, but you'd have to read the issue in question to know. Or you have read it but omit the fact that the character in those scans is a Skrull posing as the Surfer. So, which one is it?
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#49 Posted by Saren (25903 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL.

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#50 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane said:

LOL.

Best part is that in the last panel of the first scan you can the Skrull saying "Wait, wait. I'm a Sk--"  before he changes his mind.
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