Carol Danvers Ms. Marvel
Battle begins on the rooftop of the Daily Bugle
Ms. Marvel vs Donna Troy
"Dammit, I wanna say Ms. Marvel..."So do I but Donna is too good of a fighter and too strong.
I say Ms Marvel due top her energy attacksYou always over-estimate her.Even her biggest fans aren't this naive.
"Ms. Marvel would clean Donna's clock. Whatever powers Donna may have, she can't fight worth crap. Come on, she would always lose to Starfire in staff fights."This is so false it gave me cancer....
"Jade1977 said:"Ms. Marvel would clean Donna's clock. Whatever powers Donna may have, she can't fight worth crap. Come on, she would always lose to Starfire in staff fights."This is so false it gave me cancer...."
It is true that Donna would always to Starfire. I would LOVE to see Ms. Marvel clean Donna 's clock, because Donna is such a b!tch.
"Usual Suspect said:Donna is a better fighter than Carol..by far,and she's stronger."Jade1977 said:It is true that Donna would always to Starfire. I would LOVE to see Ms. Marvel clean Donna 's clock, because Donna is such a b!tch.""Ms. Marvel would clean Donna's clock. Whatever powers Donna may have, she can't fight worth crap. Come on, she would always lose to Starfire in staff fights."This is so false it gave me cancer...."
"StrongestOneThereIs said:I'm gonna let that insult slide Usual Sucker.I say Ms Marvel due top her energy attacksYou always over-estimate her.Even her biggest fans aren't this naive."
I don't over-estimate her no more than any other character. She is what she is. Marvel has made her a powerhouse. For purposes, if Sentry is Marvel's Superman, then Ms MArvel is Wonder Woman. She could never beat Wonder Woman, but Donna isn't Diana.
"Ms. Marvel would clean Donna's clock. Whatever powers Donna may have, she can't fight worth crap. Come on, she would always lose to Starfire in staff fights."Good point, but she's been through so much lately, and nearly beat a Superman Robot. She filled in for Wonder Woman for a while. I think Donna would make it a tougher fight for Ms. Marvel to win, than maybe 5 years ago. however, I do think Marvel would win.
That being said, Ms. Marvel is dead right now... might make it hard to win a fight.
"Usual Suspect said:Why say that you are going to let the insult slide and then do the complete opposite stupid ass?"StrongestOneThereIs said:I'm gonna let that insult slide Usual Sucker.I don't over-estimate her no more than any other character. She is what she is. Marvel has made her a powerhouse. For purposes, if Sentry is Marvel's Superman, then Ms MArvel is Wonder Woman. She could never beat Wonder Woman, but Donna isn't Diana. "I say Ms Marvel due top her energy attacksYou always over-estimate her.Even her biggest fans aren't this naive."
Donna doesn't have to be Diana to take Ms.Marvel because Ms.Marvel is nowhere near Wonder Woman's physical level or fighting skill.
Will44 said:
"Jade1977 said:Terrible and completely false point.Ms.Marvel loses.She doesn't have the strength,speed or skills to hang with Donna."Ms. Marvel would clean Donna's clock. Whatever powers Donna may have, she can't fight worth crap. Come on, she would always lose to Starfire in staff fights."Good point, but she's been through so much lately, and nearly beat a Superman Robot. She filled in for Wonder Woman for a while. I think Donna would make it a tougher fight for Ms. Marvel to win, than maybe 5 years ago. however, I do think Marvel would win.That being said, Ms. Marvel is dead right now... might make it hard to win a fight."
"Sorry, but Donna Troy is a suck fighter. She got killed by a Superman robot, and when she filled in for Wonder Woman, she ended up being worn as a necklace by Giganta. She is a pale shadow of Diana."Ms.Marvel got one-shotted by Gladiator....while she was Binary.
Donna is a better fighter than Ms.Marvel.
"Sorry, but Donna Troy is a suck fighter. She got killed by a Superman robot, and when she filled in for Wonder Woman, she ended up being worn as a necklace by Giganta. She is a pale shadow of Diana."the docotor casting illusions and Cheetah played into that as well.
"Sorry, but Donna Troy is a suck fighter. She got killed by a Superman robot, and when she filled in for Wonder Woman, she ended up being worn as a necklace by Giganta. She is a pale shadow of Diana."the docotor casting illusions and Cheetah played into that as well.
"Jade1977 said:youre asking questions you already had answeredbecause Donna is such a b!tch."how"
you know this one
pixelized said:
" :"all that said was she needs a good writer.""DONNA TROY IS ANNOYING????What?how??"You can start with this
http://ragnell.blogspot.com/2005/09/why-i-hate-donna-troy.html
13 reasons :"less personality, creation was a big mistake, moon-shaped earrings, choice of pantheon, depressing, late"
too large a role, worst retconned continuity, too many power ups, she robs valuable panel-time, hypocrisy, taste in men "
that said, I think its a close fight
"Jade1977 said:I doubt that Carol Danvers would have lost a fight to Starfire, whether she was Binary, Warbird or Ms. Marvel. The Souless Golem is going down hard."Sorry, but Donna Troy is a suck fighter. She got killed by a Superman robot, and when she filled in for Wonder Woman, she ended up being worn as a necklace by Giganta. She is a pale shadow of Diana."Ms.Marvel got one-shotted by Gladiator....while she was Binary.Donna is a better fighter than Ms.Marvel."
"pixelized said:i'm looking for examples of her bitchiness. hellogoodbye"Jade1977 said:youre asking questions you already had answeredbecause Donna is such a b!tch."how"
you know this one
pixelized said:" :that said, I think its a close fight""all that said was she needs a good writer.""DONNA TROY IS ANNOYING????What?how??"You can start with this
http://ragnell.blogspot.com/2005/09/why-i-hate-donna-troy.html
13 reasons :"less personality, creation was a big mistake, moon-shaped earrings, choice of pantheon, depressing, late"
too large a role, worst retconned continuity, too many power ups, she robs valuable panel-time, hypocrisy, taste in men "
"StrongestOneThereIs said:That's just how I roll Fancy Vancy. You better watch yourself. Letting emotion get the better of your and resorting to simple name calling and profanity. NO CLASS! The Mods are watching."Usual Suspect said:Why say that you are going to let the insult slide and then do the complete opposite stupid ass?"StrongestOneThereIs said:I'm gonna let that insult slide Usual Sucker.I don't over-estimate her no more than any other character. She is what she is. Marvel has made her a powerhouse. For purposes, if Sentry is Marvel's Superman, then Ms MArvel is Wonder Woman. She could never beat Wonder Woman, but Donna isn't Diana. "I say Ms Marvel due top her energy attacksYou always over-estimate her.Even her biggest fans aren't this naive."Donna doesn't have to be Diana to take Ms.Marvel because Ms.Marvel is nowhere near Wonder Woman's physical level or fighting skill.Will44 said:""Jade1977 said:Terrible and completely false point.Ms.Marvel loses.She doesn't have the strength,speed or skills to hang with Donna."Ms. Marvel would clean Donna's clock. Whatever powers Donna may have, she can't fight worth crap. Come on, she would always lose to Starfire in staff fights."Good point, but she's been through so much lately, and nearly beat a Superman Robot. She filled in for Wonder Woman for a while. I think Donna would make it a tougher fight for Ms. Marvel to win, than maybe 5 years ago. however, I do think Marvel would win.That being said, Ms. Marvel is dead right now... might make it hard to win a fight."
But to reply to your statement of "Ms MArvel not being nowhere near Wonder Womans physical level or fighting skill". Neither is Donna!
the Ms at last showing cleans house due to her power, durability, and healing factor increase,
not to mention augmentation, Binary powers, and enough skill, wit, heart, and moxy to solo
a city full of Super Skrull 2.0's.
That's just how I roll Fancy Vancy. You better watch yourself. Letting emotion get the better of your and resorting to simple name calling and profanity. NO CLASS! The Mods are watching.There was no emotion in my post.I used profanity because it fit not because I was mad.Next time you say you are going to let something slide..do it.I'm not scared of the mods and I know they are watching.I don't care.
But to reply to your statement of "Ms MArvel not being nowhere near Wonder Womans physical level or fighting skill". Neither is Donna!
"
Donna is closer to Wonder Woman's physical ability than Ms.Marvel.Donna outclasses Ms.Marvel physically.
Jade1977 said:
"Vance Astro said:"Jade1977 said:I doubt that Carol Danvers would have lost a fight to Starfire, whether she was Binary, Warbird or Ms. Marvel. The Souless Golem is going down hard.""Sorry, but Donna Troy is a suck fighter. She got killed by a Superman robot, and when she filled in for Wonder Woman, she ended up being worn as a necklace by Giganta. She is a pale shadow of Diana."Ms.Marvel got one-shotted by Gladiator....while she was Binary.Donna is a better fighter than Ms.Marvel."
Since we are just naming random PIS moments when people lost.Ms.Marvel lost to War Machine and I doubt Donna would have lost to him.
CATMANEXE said:
"the Ms at last showing cleans house due to her power, durability, and healing factor increase,not to mention augmentation, Binary powers, and enough skill, wit, heart, and moxy to soloa city full of Super Skrull 2.0's."1.Last showing? Ms.Marvel could barely hold her body together.
2.Durability as compared to Donna? Ms.Marvel got one shotted by a guy who lost to Gambit.
3.Ms.Marvel doesn't have healing factor
4.She can only become Binary by absorbing large amounts of energy.
5.She is nowhere near as skilled as Donna.
6.Skrulls are cannon fodder.
"StrongestOneThereIs said:Yes Mom. And let me say, that's a pretty dress you have on."Usual Suspect said:Why say that you are going to let the insult slide and then do the complete opposite stupid ass?"StrongestOneThereIs said:I'm gonna let that insult slide Usual Sucker.I don't over-estimate her no more than any other character. She is what she is. Marvel has made her a powerhouse. For purposes, if Sentry is Marvel's Superman, then Ms MArvel is Wonder Woman. She could never beat Wonder Woman, but Donna isn't Diana. "I say Ms Marvel due top her energy attacksYou always over-estimate her.Even her biggest fans aren't this naive."Donna doesn't have to be Diana to take Ms.Marvel because Ms.Marvel is nowhere near Wonder Woman's physical level or fighting skill.Will44 said:""Jade1977 said:Terrible and completely false point.Ms.Marvel loses.She doesn't have the strength,speed or skills to hang with Donna."Ms. Marvel would clean Donna's clock. Whatever powers Donna may have, she can't fight worth crap. Come on, she would always lose to Starfire in staff fights."Good point, but she's been through so much lately, and nearly beat a Superman Robot. She filled in for Wonder Woman for a while. I think Donna would make it a tougher fight for Ms. Marvel to win, than maybe 5 years ago. however, I do think Marvel would win.That being said, Ms. Marvel is dead right now... might make it hard to win a fight."
Give a feat from Donna that Matches what have been seen from Ms M.
Yes Mom. And let me say, that's a pretty dress you have on.Give a feat from Donna that Matches what have been seen from Ms M."Donna has been shown to hang with Wonder Woman and Ms.Marvel got one-shotted by Gladiator..I said this already.
"Jade1977 said:failed point. Gladiator is a beast. getting beaten by him is no more a weak point then getting beat by the Champion."Sorry, but Donna Troy is a suck fighter. She got killed by a Superman robot, and when she filled in for Wonder Woman, she ended up being worn as a necklace by Giganta. She is a pale shadow of Diana."Ms.Marvel got one-shotted by Gladiator....while she was Binary.Donna is a better fighter than Ms.Marvel."
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