Ms. Marvel vs Ben 10

Who would win in a battle between Carol Danvers (Post- revival) and Ben 10 (Ultimate Alien). Instant alien switch but no Alien X. Ben may start as one alien. Battle is to K.O. or death. Who would win and why?

@PlasticBag: Thats because he goes easy on most of his weaker enemies so as not to kill them by accident. when you think about it he could have easily beaten most of the aliens he encountered such as chamalien, and the vreedle brothers but i guess they have to make an episode out of something.

Ben wins via Clokwork and that other time controlling one

@redbird3rdboywonder: thats if he can hit her with his time blasts which i doubt she will let happen. he cannot slow or stop time. his powers are useful but with a great price. clockwork is extremely slow and extremely fragile and any injuries he takes as the alien will be reflected on ben's real body which is a risk i doubt he is willing to take. and what other time controlling one do you mean?

@UltimateHero0406: There's always Eon whose name i am just now remembering or Ultimate ben for that matter

@redbird3rdboywonder: oo yeah eon i forgot bout him but no. eon and ultimate ben do not count because they are ben's future self and we are talking about present ben, plus ultimate ben and eon are possible alternate futures alongside ben 10,000 which means that there is no guarantee that they will even come into existence.

@UltimateHero0406: Eon actually does count since he's an alien in Ben's arsenal. If you remember Eon started off as a character in the live action movie much like Nanomac but both were shown to be brought into continuity. As for Ultimate Ben, Azamuth or Ultimate Ben himself said that the transformation was inside the Omnitrix/Ultamatrix but Ben hadn't unlocked yet IIRC

@redbird3rdboywonder: ah, very well then however ultimate ben is still a future transformation and we are only dealing with current. and even though eon has some good powers, i think hell still have a hard time with miss marvel cuz she is still way faster than him. (i wonder y he never used eon again btw)

(I have no idea) Yeah Ms Marvel would indeed give him a hard time but there's also the fact that Ms Marvel has Kree DNA which is alien, which means the Omnitrix/Ultamatrix has a very high chance of taking a DNA sample and transforming Ben into something similar or giving him similar powers

@redbird3rdboywonder: Yes but theres no guarantee. Hes come in contact with loads of aliens and have not taken their powers. For example Vilgax, Agreggor, even Gwen and getting that dragon from alien force woulda been freekin awesome.

@god_spawn: not necesarilly, xlr8, fast track, or jet ray could keep up

@UltimateHero0406: Most likey he already has a Vilgax type alien inside the Omnitrix as well as that Dragon and an Osmosian and Anadites as well.

@redbird3rdboywonder: if he had an anadite he would have used it by now cuz they have some serious powers

@god_spawn: granted, however ben also has big chill and ghost freak. he may be able to possess her body. who needs speed when your opponent cant touch you. but i guess only the possession applies because simply avoiding the opponent will not get anyone a win. and as i recall possessions are only temporary.

@UltimateHero0406: The simple explanation for that is either he hasnt transformed into one because of plot reasons or that he hasnt found the alien just yet. Remember there are over 10 million aliens inside the Omnitrix, of which half we'll never see

@redbird3rdboywonder: true but we are only dealing with his known transformations. we should not assume that he will do something special in this battle or we might as well say that he got alien x all sorted out and can use it. but back to my point before, there is no reason to asssume that he will take her kree powers (from another universe and most likely not in the codec stream) and use them right off the bat.

@god_spawn: the same can be said for MM in that case. she wont just go in for the kill. she will see wat he can do and then go for it, giving him time to get a grasp on her powers.

@TheVoiceOfReason said:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

@UltimateHero0406: The simple explanation for that is either he hasnt transformed into one because of plot reasons or that he hasnt found the alien just yet. Remember there are over 10 million aliens inside the Omnitrix, of which half we'll never see

Do you mean most of which you won't see? Or is there a way they're going to show 5 million aliens? Just curious.

I mean most of which we won't see. It would be awesome if we could see at least a thousand of them but there's no way that'll happen, no to mention the fact that IMHO, the newest season Omniverse will kill the franchise.

@UltimateHero0406: Yeah I know I just wanted to point that out and theres every reason to assume there's a high chance he can, the Omni/Ultamatrix is designed to scan DNA from any alien lifeform, it oesnt already have DNA from. The kree are aliens and MM has Kree DNA thus it should work.

@god_spawn: very true but hes not stupid. he wont turn into to a dozen useless aliens before he figures out hes getting his ass kicked. when he realizes who hes dealing with, hell go straight for way big who can match her in speed, strength, and durability.

@redbird3rdboywonder:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

I mean most of which we won't see. It would be awesome if we could see at least a thousand of them but there's no way that'll happen, no to mention the fact that IMHO, the newest season Omniverse will kill the franchise.

(so true even the theme song is stupid never mind the horrible new drawing style.) im pretty sure ben has to revert back to human and scan the alien or touch with ultimatrix to get dna sample and i dont think she will stop and pose for him while hes vulnerable.

@god_spawn: Carol's current top speed I believe is about half the speed of sound (correct me if im wrong). and true way big is no speed demon, however he may be able to get her with some sort of shock wave by clapping his hands together should she get to close (im pretty sure he did this b4 but again correct me if im wrong) and if all else fails way big also has an ultimate mode which gives him an all around power,speed,durability increase not to mention flight.

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@redbird3rdboywonder:

@redbird3rdboywonder said:

I mean most of which we won't see. It would be awesome if we could see at least a thousand of them but there's no way that'll happen, no to mention the fact that IMHO, the newest season Omniverse will kill the franchise.

(so true even the theme song is stupid never mind the horrible new drawing style.) im pretty sure ben has to revert back to human and scan the alien or touch with ultimatrix to get dna sample and i dont think she will stop and pose for him while hes vulnerable.

(Agreed.) No Ben doesn't have to revert back to human form or touch her physically, its supposed to be automatic

@redbird3rdboywonder: he had to do it for NRG and chamalien

@god_spawn: ok but she has to slow down to attack some time. (i read somewhere that after she got her powers back, her speed decreased greatly. is that wrong?)

Ben 10

Carol

I'm not sure who wins. The deciding factor is can Ben deal with the speed. Without Carol's speed it would be an easy win for Ben.

Since no one else has a comment i think i will call it a draw since there are a number of ways that both fighters can kill the other and there is no way to predict which will happen first.

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