In all seriousness I think Spectre would win. He has shown beating other 5d imps fairly easily.
Using Thunderbolt as a comparision to Mxy sounds extremely unfair. He has never really looked remotely as powerful. Mordru has no problem beating Thunderbolt during JSA 50 as well, he never really looked as powerful, and Fate (Hectar Hall) has outperformed him in 2 occasions.
In all seriousness I think Spectre would win. He has shown beating other 5d imps fairly easily.
Using Thunderbolt as a comparision to Mxy sounds extremely unfair. He has never really looked remotely as powerful. Mordru has no problem beating Thunderbolt during JSA 50 as well, he never really looked as powerful, and Fate (Hectar Hall) has outperformed him in 2 occasions.
They both use the same 5d technology so I don't know how one who be greater than the other. Also I feel like Myx is really there for comic relief and many of his feats are taken out of context, or taken seriously when they shouldn't be. I mean Myx was dewpowered by an alternate dimension Zantanna. Who I doubt would have been able to do the same to Spectre.
They both use the same 5d technology so I don't know how one who be greater than the other. Also I feel like Myx is really there for comic relief and many of his feats are taken out of context, or taken seriously when they shouldn't be.
Actually they dont, the only real thing Jakeem Thunder's Thunderbolt and Mxy have in common is that they are both from the 5th dimension. One's an imp the other's a ginie. If you look closely, they look very different, one has a complete body, others looks more like a lightning construct.
Mr. Mxy has honestly looked powerful.
I mean Myx was dewpowered by an alternate dimension Zantanna. Who I doubt would have been able to do the same to Spectre.
Thats a very bad comparison, because honestly thats a PIS.
Now just calling it a PIS is one thing i suppose i should go and try and explain why i believe its a PIS
Here is how Zatanna managed to depower him
The spell seem to be "No Magic for IMP"
Weird part is, his powers are never even shown to be magic but rather 5th dimensional Superscience.
Also here is what Joker with Mxy power manage to do to spectre
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Mxy also beat Spectre during World's Funniest but thats non canon and in that series he actually outperformed Michael/ Lucifer.
I would consider Emperor Joker feat to be PIS lol. Anyways, thanks for clearing up the thunderbolt scan. I knew one was an imp and the other a genie. I assumed they both used the same super 5d tech.
The thing is its kind of not Myx's place to be able to beat spectre. WHen it comes to people like them authority equals power and spectre was given dominion by the Presence to be His wrath. At the height of spectres power he is given nearly total influence over the universe. He is something like the LT the only difference is LT's powers dont fluctuate. Spectres abilities are affected by the host and what the presence is willing to let him accomplish. If those arent a problem them spectre wins
Hmm, think it depends on level of Spectre due to Presence. If it's typical Spectre, Mxy would win probably(he did shatter Spectre I believe) but if it's full powered Spectre, Mxy could have problems I think.
They both use the same 5d technology so I don't know how one who be greater than the other. Also I feel like Myx is really there for comic relief and many of his feats are taken out of context, or taken seriously when they shouldn't be.
Actually they dont, the only real thing Jakeem Thunder's Thunderbolt and Mxy have in common is that they are both from the 5th dimension. One's an imp the other's a ginie. If you look closely, they look very different, one has a complete body, others looks more like a lightning construct.
Mr. Mxy has honestly looked powerful.
I mean Myx was dewpowered by an alternate dimension Zantanna. Who I doubt would have been able to do the same to Spectre.
Thats a very bad comparison, because honestly thats a PIS.
Now just calling it a PIS is one thing i suppose i should go and try and explain why i believe its a PIS
Here is how Zatanna managed to depower him
The spell seem to be "No Magic for IMP"
Weird part is, his powers are never even shown to be magic but rather 5th dimensional Superscience.
Also here is what Joker with Mxy power manage to do to spectre
Gallery
Mxy also beat Spectre during World's Funniest but thats non canon and in that series he actually outperformed Michael/ Lucifer.
The last scans have nothing to do with Mr Mxyzptlk's power. They are from The Spectre Vol 3 Issue 51, in which Spectre tries to punish Joker by going into his soul but ends up being overpowered and taken over due to the fact that Joker does not have a moral concept of what is ''right'' or ''wrong''.
The Specters power depends on the host, the Specter at the time of Emperor Joker was Hal who held the Specter back more than any other host. Unbound the Specter has rendered Myx and every other member of the 5th dimension powerless as a byproduct of his action.
I don't know how strong Crispus Allen the Specter at the time is but either unbound or Corrigan his most wrathful host would stomp.
@sithlantern93: His powers have been mentioned as magic before on a few occasions most notably in day of vengeace when the destruction of all would render him powerless.
The Specters power depends on the host, the Specter at the time of Emperor Joker was Hal who held the Specter back more than any other host. Unbound the Specter has rendered Myx and every other member of the 5th dimension powerless as a byproduct of his action.
I don't know how strong Crispus Allen the Specter at the time is but either unbound or Corrigan his most wrathful host would stomp.
@sithlantern93: His powers have been mentioned as magic before on a few occasions most notably in day of vengeace when the destruction of all would render him powerless.
I don't remember seeing every being. from 5th dimension being left powerless. But I do remember Mxy being extremely weakened and Thunderbolt getting owned easily. You are right about Spectre's might depending on host. Hal was powerless against foes that Corrigan would not have too much trouble with. CitizenBane's thread about Spectre getting kicked by Batman also explains the Spectre's power varying on his host. As to your response to me, well DC is very inconsistent about it's characters most of the time. They can make characters that are potentially more powerful lose for the sake of the story. Such as; Nekron BFRing Spectre and Spectre losing to Mandrakk rather easily.
The Specters power depends on the host, the Specter at the time of Emperor Joker was Hal who held the Specter back more than any other host. Unbound the Specter has rendered Myx and every other member of the 5th dimension powerless as a byproduct of his action.
I don't know how strong Crispus Allen the Specter at the time is but either unbound or Corrigan his most wrathful host would stomp.
@sithlantern93: His powers have been mentioned as magic before on a few occasions most notably in day of vengeace when the destruction of all would render him powerless.
I don't remember seeing every being. from 5th dimension being left powerless. But I do remember Mxy being extremely weakened and Thunderbolt getting owned easily. You are right about Spectre's might depending on host. Hal was powerless against foes that Corrigan would not have too much trouble with. CitizenBane's thread about Spectre getting kicked by Batman also explains the Spectre's power varying on his host. As to your response to me, well DC is very inconsistent about it's characters most of the time. They can make characters that are potentially more powerful lose for the sake of the story. Such as; Nekron BFRing Spectre and Spectre losing to Mandrakk rather easily.
The reason you don't see this is the same reason you don't see how most alien planets react when the universe is potentially about to end, they are unimportant characters. The Specter getting hit by Batman was apparently just a way for the Specter to let Batman blow off steam and has been taken out of context.
The examples of Mandrakk and Necron are how writers normally handle the Specter without weakening him or allowing him to handwave the villain away, they make up some rule God has laid down that prevents him from interfering be it can't effect the bad because he doesn't have a soul or can't interfere because humanity must handle this specific fight.
when has mandrakk beaten spectre? and what version of mandrakk was that?
on topic: Mxy has already beaten the spectre.
Mandrakk beat The Spectre off-screen in Final Crisis. No Mxy has never beaten the Spectre. WF is sadly not canon and therefore does not count. Emperor Joker beat Hal Jordan Spectre who was basically Casper the Friendly Ghost since basically tried to do what was Radiant's job and was bereft of The Spectre's true power. An unbound and hostless Spectre curbstomped Thunderbolt and severely weakened Mxyzptlk.
when has mandrakk beaten spectre? and what version of mandrakk was that?
on topic: Mxy has already beaten the spectre.
Mandrakk beat The Spectre off-screen in Final Crisis. No Mxy has never beaten the Spectre. WF is sadly not canon and therefore does not count. Emperor Joker beat Hal Jordan Spectre who was basically Casper the Friendly Ghost since basically tried to do what was Radiant's job and was bereft of The Spectre's true power. An unbound and hostless Spectre curbstomped Thunderbolt and severely weakened Mxyzptlk.
proof of this?
first of all specify which version of mandrakk you're talking about, im assuming it's Dax Novu? and where exactly was it stated that he beat the spectre?
when has mandrakk beaten spectre? and what version of mandrakk was that?
on topic: Mxy has already beaten the spectre.
Mandrakk beat The Spectre off-screen in Final Crisis. No Mxy has never beaten the Spectre. WF is sadly not canon and therefore does not count. Emperor Joker beat Hal Jordan Spectre who was basically Casper the Friendly Ghost since basically tried to do what was Radiant's job and was bereft of The Spectre's true power. An unbound and hostless Spectre curbstomped Thunderbolt and severely weakened Mxyzptlk.
proof of this?
first of all specify which version of mandrakk you're talking about, im assuming it's Dax Novu? and where exactly was it stated that he beat the spectre?
when has mandrakk beaten spectre? and what version of mandrakk was that?
on topic: Mxy has already beaten the spectre.
Mandrakk beat The Spectre off-screen in Final Crisis. No Mxy has never beaten the Spectre. WF is sadly not canon and therefore does not count. Emperor Joker beat Hal Jordan Spectre who was basically Casper the Friendly Ghost since basically tried to do what was Radiant's job and was bereft of The Spectre's true power. An unbound and hostless Spectre curbstomped Thunderbolt and severely weakened Mxyzptlk.
proof of this?
first of all specify which version of mandrakk you're talking about, im assuming it's Dax Novu? and where exactly was it stated that he beat the spectre?
when has mandrakk beaten spectre? and what version of mandrakk was that?
on topic: Mxy has already beaten the spectre.
Mandrakk beat The Spectre off-screen in Final Crisis. No Mxy has never beaten the Spectre. WF is sadly not canon and therefore does not count. Emperor Joker beat Hal Jordan Spectre who was basically Casper the Friendly Ghost since basically tried to do what was Radiant's job and was bereft of The Spectre's true power. An unbound and hostless Spectre curbstomped Thunderbolt and severely weakened Mxyzptlk.
proof of this?
first of all specify which version of mandrakk you're talking about, im assuming it's Dax Novu? and where exactly was it stated that he beat the spectre?
I am not trying to degrade him. And I also did not say that he would horribly lose. There is a high possibility of Mxy beating Spectre since Mxy never lost a battle and arguably displayed more power than Spectre and Spectre was often downgraded just for the sake of the plot. But without PIS, Spectre was capable of besting beings from 5th dimension. I am not degrading Mxy. Hell, how could I, given the fact that Mxy is also my avatar.
if mxy commited such a crime as to make God notice the spectre would have plenty of power to off mxy in a fight. other wise it could be close and the spectre is not known for his sense of humor.
Jim Corrigan has already been imprisoned by a lesser known 5-D Imp. Mxy wins.
That was a hostless Spectre. Also Lkz(The blue 5th dimensional imp who imprisoned Spectre) stalemated Thunderbolt, whom Spectre stomped with great ease in JSA's tie in with Day of Vengeance.
Joker, without using mxy's powers to its full potential, was able to overpower the spectre and put him in a bird cage, though to be fair, spectre, due to his DoV actions, managed to de-power mxy as well. But Mxy seems to possess a greater amount of power in his possession (that's evident on panel).
Joker, without using mxy's powers to its full potential, was able to overpower the spectre and put him in a bird cage, though to be fair, spectre, due to his DoV actions, managed to de-power mxy as well. But Mxy seems to possess a greater amount of power in his possession (that's evident on panel).
But in Days of Vengeance, an unbound Spectre had trouble with a Captain Marvel on steroids, basically. So if the imp's possessing almost omnipotent power, shouldn't he at least be a challenge?
Jim Corrigan Spectre STOMPS!
Here is the Spectre battling COIE Anti-Monitor at the center of creation seemingly standing outside of it
This one is a little smaller but it's the Spectre challenging Zero Hour Parallax and Extant at the moment of creation after Parallax has destroyed the universe an infinite amount of times over back to the big bang.
But in Days of Vengeance, an unbound Spectre had trouble with a Captain Marvel on steroids, basically. So if the imp's possessing almost omnipotent power, shouldn't he at least be a challenge?
Jim Corrigan Spectre STOMPS!
Here is the Spectre battling COIE Anti-Monitor at the center of creation seemingly standing outside of it
This one is a little smaller but it's the Spectre challenging Zero Hour Parallax and Extant at the moment of creation after Parallax has destroyed the universe an infinite amount of times over back to the big bang.
Jim Corrigan Specter is a beast.
I love how I created this over 4 years ago and people still think I believe the same thing as I did then.
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