Mr. Mxyzptlk vs Mad Jim Jaspers

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@kingant27:

You can't seem to get the point of hypertime and unique characters.

Toonforce = you can stalemate him at most, he's unkillable

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@clownprinceofcrime1995: your knowledge is lacking so much, that you can't seem to get that WF isn't canon, and your limited knowledge makes you think Toonforce=win.

Anything DC is canon to the fifth dimension imps, like Batmite and Myx. Even speculated that Marvel canon might be to them, though it's very open ended.

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@nickthedevil:

Didn't Mxy lose to SS in a crossover as part of a deal for Mxy to be the impossible Man?

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@nickthedevil: Toonforce doesn't mean a win, but you keep thinking it.

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#106  Edited By dorukesin

Mxyzptlk would stomp Kal.Kal has beat depowered Mxy

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@dorukesin: Who depowered Mxy?

Also how do u know he was depowered?

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Could go either way

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@nickthedevil:

Yeah I mean he lost so marvel said they'd recognise it as canon or something though

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MJJ easily. Omniversal threat vs multiversal reality warper.

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Mxy destroyed DC Multiverse

DC multiverse = Marvel Omniverse

Mxy >>> MJJ

Mxy had toon force

Mxy >>> LT

Mxy = or slightly less than TOAA

DC multiverse (pre 52) = 52 universes, lol.

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@andreysemyonov1337: Not even close. It was after the crisis, the anti monitor destroyed all other universes and there was only 52 left, but after the final crisis it was turned back into a real multiverse by superman using the miracle machine.

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@van_cere said:

@andreysemyonov1337: Not even close. It was after the crisis, the anti monitor destroyed all other universes and there was only 52 left, but after the final crisis it was turned back into a real multiverse by superman using the miracle machine.

All Mxy feats from his publication to the end of Pre52 are valid

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@clownprinceofcrime1995: In the DC Universe, because DC has no rights on the Marvel Universe, so he can't wipe out or retcon a Marvel character.

And the Toonforce is not really a superpower, more a trademark.
Basically it's the Tex Avery Fonky Style.

All the characters can do everything till it's in a fun way.

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@realitywarper: Okay, so TOAA is going to lose to batman then, and superman is powerless against a marvel character huh.

If everyone use that logic, then there would be no need for a battles forum.

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@realitywarper:

It's in a combined universe so he can retcon him.

I mean that's why they let him lose to SS in a crossover so that Marvel would play along with Mxy being the impossible man.

Toonforce is a pretty good thing to have though as more of an ability.

Also Mxy can just rewrite the book.

It's all well and good being able to warp what's in the fictional world but Mxy can play with the pages themselves

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@realitywarper:

Show MJJ warping a reality warper of Mxys stature.

If anything retconning superman is more impressive as he's a MUCH bigger character.

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@realitywarper:

Show MJJ warping a reality warper of Mxys stature.

If anything retconning superman is more impressive as he's a MUCH bigger character.

He did.
He warped entire Universes just with his Jasper's waves. ^^

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@realitywarper:

That's not Mxy level. Batmite destroyed PC DC by shouting go away

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#124  Edited By nickthedevil

@realitywarper said:

@clownprinceofcrime1995 said:

@realitywarper:

Show MJJ warping a reality warper of Mxys stature.

If anything retconning superman is more impressive as he's a MUCH bigger character.

He did.

He warped entire Universes just with his Jasper's waves. ^^

You're arguing an omniversal threat against a cross dimensional warper.

Universes are nothing to someone who can warp an entire dimension to it's whim. You keep referring to his universal levels and that's what we're trying to tell you.

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@nickthedevil:

And Mxy is at minimum multiversal if you discount WF like they're trying to do

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#126  Edited By RealityWarper

@nickthedevil: Posted above :

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MJJ change the Omniverse with his reality waves.

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@nickthedevil: It isn't canon to story, it's only canon to Hypertine; which lacks evidence.

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@nickthedevil: Any reasons for being offensive ?

The dog offended you? I thought we were just posting pictures.

I already told you that rearranging the multiverse is little compared to fiddling with dimensions, you just keep repeating yourself as if it made you anymore right.

@nickthedevil: It isn't canon to story, it's only canon to Hypertine; which lacks evidence.

It's not canon to any of the multiple earth's they battled around, because they recreated it and fixed it. It's the same reasoning as Flashpoint, because it ISN'T canon, but it's canon to Hypertime, and Flash and Professor Zoom are the only one's it's canon to because they are the true Speedsters belonging to canon. Exactly like Batmite and Myx were involved in World's Funnest.

I know it's confusing but stay with me.

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@clownprinceofcrime1995:

MJJ, Omniversal is the highest you can go, it basically means every fictional multi verse.

going "outside the comics and into our reality is false. Because That's in a comicbook, under the genre of fiction. Meaning it is indeed fictional. That means it's just another comicbook reality/universe.

Being an omniversal threat means being a threat to the very reality of fiction itself. FEW can top MJJ.

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Mxy stomp .

By a large margin

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@darkgenex:

And Mxy is one of them. He's beyond omniversal and has been shown to be writer+ level. Writer > omniversal. And I know it's not real you have to use your imagination, we are talking about fictional things here. Mxy can go to somewhere where MJJ has never been shown to A) know it exists B) retain his powers in it C) alter it in any way. Yet Mxy has. Also Mxy can pop out into nothingness where MJJ has nothing to warp as he needs matter and Mxy needs only a dimension.

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#140  Edited By Darkgenex

@clownprinceofcrime1995: He's multiversal as he's limited to only be in the DC multiverse. Writers reality is fictional, to say something is Omniversal you need to know what it is. The "writer reality" is still a fictional reality inside a comicbook, which is part of the DC reality. There's dimensions yes, limited to the DC reality Mxy can enter.

Nowhere I have seen Mxy is stated to be Omniversal, MJJ was shown to be.

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@darkgenex:

Mxy can beat up writers and changer comics at will to do what he wants, he's more than omniversal.

MJJ hasn't done anything on par with that.

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#143  Edited By Darkgenex

@clownprinceofcrime1995: Do you have some sort of an incapability to read?

I've said it twice now, entering a reality labeled ''real life'' is still fictional, and limited to a fictional universe, which is only but a fraction of the omniverse, MJJ is a threat to every fictional reality that has existed, that is what ''omniversal threat'' means.

Which means a lot of things, The one above all is the supreme ruler of the Marvel multiverse, and the Presence is the ruler of the DC Multiverse, but the omniverse contains every fictional reality, within infinite different realities of that one fictional story within a multiverse, meaning there's finite multiverses inside an omniverse, yet it's 1000's upon thousands of multiverses containing fictional realities such as the bible for example.

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@darkgenex:

Isn't the over-mUnited above presence?

And they draw it as to show the real world. Comic book real world in DC was earth Prime which went kaboom hence doesn't exist anymore. Also you haven't counter retcon yet or just stepping out of reality and messing MJJ up from there

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#146  Edited By Darkgenex

How is one respective supreme god above the other?

I hope it makes sense to you that a fictional reality retconning another fictional reality that is limited within the DC multiverse won't have an effect on something outside all individual fictional realities, and threaten it

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Shush! It's meant to be a secret

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@darkgenex:

He'd just go to marvels HQ and retcon him from there

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@clownprinceofcrime1995: he doesn't have feats that says he can do that with Marvel. And again, That's a fictional reality not having reach of MJJ.