Mr Mxyzptlk Vs Cyttorak

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Mr M {pre 52} jumps over to the Marvel universe and decides to conquer it,he starts by entering Cyttoraks realm,fight on.

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Cyttorak has no chance.

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Cyttorak just nullifies Mxyzptlk's powers in his dimension.

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Cyttorak just nullifies Mxyzptlk's in his dimension.

Cain was able to resist Cyttorak in his own realm. Mxy would have no problem whatsoever.

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Hmmmm.

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@citizensentry said:

Cyttorak just nullifies Mxyzptlk's in his dimension.

Cain was able to resist Cyttorak in his own realm. Mxy would have no problem whatsoever.

Cyttorak has nullified the Phoenix force's powers before....

EDIT: Cyttorak is Omnipotent within his own Dimension.

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@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:

Cyttorak just nullifies Mxyzptlk's in his dimension.

Cain was able to resist Cyttorak in his own realm. Mxy would have no problem whatsoever.

Cyttorak has nullified the Phoenix force's powers before....

Cyttorak can nullify 1/5th of the Phoenix force easily. My point is that his so called "omnipotence" in his realm was dis-proven when Cain willed away from him in his dimmension.

Besides, Phoenix Force > Cyttorak. Mxy is on Phoenix force level.

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@citizensentry said:

@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:

Cyttorak just nullifies Mxyzptlk's in his dimension.

Cain was able to resist Cyttorak in his own realm. Mxy would have no problem whatsoever.

Cyttorak has nullified the Phoenix force's powers before....

Cyttorak can nullify 1/5th of the Phoenix force easily. My point is that his so called "omnipotence" in his realm was dis-proven when Cain willed away from him in his dimmension.

Besides, Phoenix Force > Cyttorak. Mxy is on Phoenix force level.

Show me the feat of Cain willing Cyttorak from his own Dimension when not even Oblivion (the embodiment of entropy which is the collapse or death of the universe) couldn't even budge Cyttorak.

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Mxy turns Cyttorak into a potato. Or just destroys the universe.

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Mxy turns Cyttorak into a potato. Or just destroys the universe.

How can Mxy turn someone who is Omnipotent (within his own dimension) into a potato?

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Mxy turns Cyttorak into a potato. Or just destroys the universe.

How can Mxy turn someone who is Omnipotent (within his own dimension) into a potato?

Maybe because he isn't omnipotent in his dimension?

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Mxy.

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@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:

@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:

Cyttorak just nullifies Mxyzptlk's in his dimension.

Cain was able to resist Cyttorak in his own realm. Mxy would have no problem whatsoever.

Cyttorak has nullified the Phoenix force's powers before....

Cyttorak can nullify 1/5th of the Phoenix force easily. My point is that his so called "omnipotence" in his realm was dis-proven when Cain willed away from him in his dimmension.

Besides, Phoenix Force > Cyttorak. Mxy is on Phoenix force level.

Show me the feat of Cain willing Cyttorak from his own Dimension when not even Oblivion (the embodiment of entropy which is the collapse or death of the universe) couldn't even budge Cyttorak.

Its not Cain willing Cyttorak away from his dimmension, It is Cain resisting Cyttorak's influence while in Cyttorak's dimmension

Cain resisting Cyttorak in his realm
Cain resisting Cyttorak in his realm

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Mxy would troll Cyttorak to death.

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@deathbyants: That's right..Shutting sh!t down by dropping knowledge...Now I wonder what you'll do for a encore..:)

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@citizensentry said:
@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:

@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:

Cyttorak just nullifies Mxyzptlk's in his dimension.

Cain was able to resist Cyttorak in his own realm. Mxy would have no problem whatsoever.

Cyttorak has nullified the Phoenix force's powers before....

Cyttorak can nullify 1/5th of the Phoenix force easily. My point is that his so called "omnipotence" in his realm was dis-proven when Cain willed away from him in his dimmension.

Besides, Phoenix Force > Cyttorak. Mxy is on Phoenix force level.

Show me the feat of Cain willing Cyttorak from his own Dimension when not even Oblivion (the embodiment of entropy which is the collapse or death of the universe) couldn't even budge Cyttorak.

Its not Cain willing Cyttorak away from his dimmension, It is Cain resisting Cyttorak's influence while in Cyttorak's dimmension

Cain resisting Cyttorak in his realm
Cain resisting Cyttorak in his realm

"Cyttorak can nullify 1/5th of the Phoenix force easily. My point is that his so called "omnipotence" in his realm was dis-proven when Cain willed away from him in his dimmension."

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Mxy stomps.

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@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:
@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:

@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:

Cyttorak just nullifies Mxyzptlk's in his dimension.

Cain was able to resist Cyttorak in his own realm. Mxy would have no problem whatsoever.

Cyttorak has nullified the Phoenix force's powers before....

Cyttorak can nullify 1/5th of the Phoenix force easily. My point is that his so called "omnipotence" in his realm was dis-proven when Cain willed away from him in his dimmension.

Besides, Phoenix Force > Cyttorak. Mxy is on Phoenix force level.

Show me the feat of Cain willing Cyttorak from his own Dimension when not even Oblivion (the embodiment of entropy which is the collapse or death of the universe) couldn't even budge Cyttorak.

Its not Cain willing Cyttorak away from his dimmension, It is Cain resisting Cyttorak's influence while in Cyttorak's dimmension

Cain resisting Cyttorak in his realm
Cain resisting Cyttorak in his realm

Was too lazy to go and find his feats so I just copied and pasted his character wiki:

Cyttorak is an immensely powerful magical deity, who is omnipotent within his Crimson Cosmos. Powerful magic users such as Doctor Strange, The Ancient One, Dormammu and Zom have invoked Cyttorak's power. The Vishanti have shown at one point to be wary of angering Cyttorak and advised Doctor Strange not to intervene with Cyttorak or any of his creations. Cyttorak's energies grant his avatar virtually limitless strength and durability.

D’Spayre plunders Cyttorak’s energies through the Juggernaut in order to control the very fabric of the Universe
D’Spayre plunders Cyttorak’s energies through the Juggernaut in order to control the very fabric of the Universe

The fraction of his power given to the Juggernaut was stated by D'Spayre to be able to control the very fabric of the Universe itself. Plundering Cyttorak’s energies from Juggernaut, D'Spayre (a mighty Fear Lord) was boosted to a near-omnipotent state (reality warper), being able to warp the universe. Not to mention, D’Spayre used his new reality warping powers to create a portal to Oblivion and reduce the Juggernaut to skeleton at one point until an enraged Juggernaut managed to defeat him.

Cyttorak's magic has allowed Juggernaut incredible durability, even keeping him alive after being stripped to bare bones. According to the original canon written by Stan Lee, Oblivion has shown to be unable to kill Juggernaut by aging him or erase him into the void, confessing that his presence was an annoying infection inside of its void that could not be voided out of existence so he spat him out of his realm in exchange of a fraction of Cyttorak’s powers. This fact showed that Cyttorak has more influence on the Juggernaut’s existence than Oblivion even inside within Oblivion's own realm.

When his avatar Juggernaut learned some spells from Crimson Cosmos he was able to overpower demon Nightmare in his domain. At that time Nightmare imprisoned Eternity by forcing every sentient being in the universe to sleep, causing Eternity to fall in a dream state, which allowed Nightmare to control him and use his cosmic powers to destroy the Earth. However, given the inability of Dr. Strange to free Eternity, Juggernaut suddenly bounce into Nightmare’s realm by using certain magical skills of Cyttorak’s powers which he learned during his exile in the Crimson Cosmos. Juggernaut by using some spells of Cyttorak’s powers was able to neutralize and mock the powers of Nightmare (boosted with the cosmic powers level of Eternity) in his own realm. This feat proves that magical powers of Cyttorak could affect or neutralize the cosmic powers of the entity Eternity.

Cyttorak’s Elf-life creations
Cyttorak’s Elf-life creations

Cyttorak has demonstrated that he can create life from nothing, as he created an entire race of elves just to worship him in the Crimson Cosmos, and he also created magical servants in order to protect his temple in South Korea. Those who were invoking Cyttorak for power were granted a variety of spells, and each had a certain effect. Those spells are: Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, Scarlet Sphere of Cyttorak, Crimson Shields of Cyttorak, Crimson Crystals of Cyttorak, Cage of Cyttorak and others.

Cyttorak traps Galactus vessel in an interdimensional corridor
Cyttorak traps Galactus vessel in an interdimensional corridor

Cyttorak is a teleporter, once used his tendrils to capture the cosmic spaceship with Galactus, Silver Surfer, Nova and Doctor Strange on it and they were helpless against him. The tendrils teared through dimensions and sucked the spaceship into the Cyttorak's realm.

Recently Cyttorak overpowered 1/5 of the Phoenix Force which was in Colossus without any effort. This feat is not all that impressive though because the Phoenix Force has been driven away by a few members of X-Men and Ultra Force, and also that Cyttorak is absolutely omnipotent in his realm.

During the Trion Saga, the Trion's dark entity possessed the Juggernaut and tapped into Cyttorak's power to power up his avatar into an universe busting level on which he was able to crack through the very fabric of space-time itself, causing the break down of multiple dimensional barriers by punching them. When Cyttorak's energies got released from Juggernaut they started destroying the unearthly Universe of the powerful Trion Gods (creators of the Triple-Evil). The rampage of Juggernaut during the Trion saga left many dimensions merged together. This feat confirms and proves once again, that magical energies of Cyttorak could destroy a multiverse. Not to mention Mephisto pointed out that Cyttorak is one of the closest candidates to being the true Satan.

Cyttorak’s energies tear a hole right through the very fabric of space-time of Trion Universe, leading its outer void stage.
Cyttorak’s energies tear a hole right through the very fabric of space-time of Trion Universe, leading its outer void stage.
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@citizensentry said:
@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:

@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:

Cyttorak just nullifies Mxyzptlk's in his dimension.

Cain was able to resist Cyttorak in his own realm. Mxy would have no problem whatsoever.

Cyttorak has nullified the Phoenix force's powers before....

Cyttorak can nullify 1/5th of the Phoenix force easily. My point is that his so called "omnipotence" in his realm was dis-proven when Cain willed away from him in his dimmension.

Besides, Phoenix Force > Cyttorak. Mxy is on Phoenix force level.

Show me the feat of Cain willing Cyttorak from his own Dimension when not even Oblivion (the embodiment of entropy which is the collapse or death of the universe) couldn't even budge Cyttorak.

Its not Cain willing Cyttorak away from his dimmension, It is Cain resisting Cyttorak's influence while in Cyttorak's dimmension

Cain resisting Cyttorak in his realm
Cain resisting Cyttorak in his realm

Was too lazy to go and find his feats so I just copied and pasted his character wiki:

Cyttorak is an immensely powerful magical deity, who is omnipotent within his Crimson Cosmos. Powerful magic users such as Doctor Strange, The Ancient One, Dormammu and Zom have invoked Cyttorak's power. The Vishanti have shown at one point to be wary of angering Cyttorak and advised Doctor Strange not to intervene with Cyttorak or any of his creations. Cyttorak's energies grant his avatar virtually limitless strength and durability.

D’Spayre plunders Cyttorak’s energies through the Juggernaut in order to control the very fabric of the Universe
D’Spayre plunders Cyttorak’s energies through the Juggernaut in order to control the very fabric of the Universe

The fraction of his power given to the Juggernaut was stated by D'Spayre to be able to control the very fabric of the Universe itself. Plundering Cyttorak’s energies from Juggernaut, D'Spayre (a mighty Fear Lord) was boosted to a near-omnipotent state (reality warper), being able to warp the universe. Not to mention, D’Spayre used his new reality warping powers to create a portal to Oblivion and reduce the Juggernaut to skeleton at one point until an enraged Juggernaut managed to defeat him.

Cyttorak's magic has allowed Juggernaut incredible durability, even keeping him alive after being stripped to bare bones. According to the original canon written by Stan Lee, Oblivion has shown to be unable to kill Juggernaut by aging him or erase him into the void, confessing that his presence was an annoying infection inside of its void that could not be voided out of existence so he spat him out of his realm in exchange of a fraction of Cyttorak’s powers. This fact showed that Cyttorak has more influence on the Juggernaut’s existence than Oblivion even inside within Oblivion's own realm.

When his avatar Juggernaut learned some spells from Crimson Cosmos he was able to overpower demon Nightmare in his domain. At that time Nightmare imprisoned Eternity by forcing every sentient being in the universe to sleep, causing Eternity to fall in a dream state, which allowed Nightmare to control him and use his cosmic powers to destroy the Earth. However, given the inability of Dr. Strange to free Eternity, Juggernaut suddenly bounce into Nightmare’s realm by using certain magical skills of Cyttorak’s powers which he learned during his exile in the Crimson Cosmos. Juggernaut by using some spells of Cyttorak’s powers was able to neutralize and mock the powers of Nightmare (boosted with the cosmic powers level of Eternity) in his own realm. This feat proves that magical powers of Cyttorak could affect or neutralize the cosmic powers of the entity Eternity.

Cyttorak’s Elf-life creations
Cyttorak’s Elf-life creations

Cyttorak has demonstrated that he can create life from nothing, as he created an entire race of elves just to worship him in the Crimson Cosmos, and he also created magical servants in order to protect his temple in South Korea. Those who were invoking Cyttorak for power were granted a variety of spells, and each had a certain effect. Those spells are: Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, Scarlet Sphere of Cyttorak, Crimson Shields of Cyttorak, Crimson Crystals of Cyttorak, Cage of Cyttorak and others.

Cyttorak traps Galactus vessel in an interdimensional corridor
Cyttorak traps Galactus vessel in an interdimensional corridor

Cyttorak is a teleporter, once used his tendrils to capture the cosmic spaceship with Galactus, Silver Surfer, Nova and Doctor Strange on it and they were helpless against him. The tendrils teared through dimensions and sucked the spaceship into the Cyttorak's realm.

Recently Cyttorak overpowered 1/5 of the Phoenix Force which was in Colossus without any effort. This feat is not all that impressive though because the Phoenix Force has been driven away by a few members of X-Men and Ultra Force, and also that Cyttorak is absolutely omnipotent in his realm.

During the Trion Saga, the Trion's dark entity possessed the Juggernaut and tapped into Cyttorak's power to power up his avatar into an universe busting level on which he was able to crack through the very fabric of space-time itself, causing the break down of multiple dimensional barriers by punching them. When Cyttorak's energies got released from Juggernaut they started destroying the unearthly Universe of the powerful Trion Gods (creators of the Triple-Evil). The rampage of Juggernaut during the Trion saga left many dimensions merged together. This feat confirms and proves once again, that magical energies of Cyttorak could destroy a multiverse. Not to mention Mephisto pointed out that Cyttorak is one of the closest candidates to being the true Satan.

Cyttorak’s energies tear a hole right through the very fabric of space-time of Trion Universe, leading its outer void stage.
Cyttorak’s energies tear a hole right through the very fabric of space-time of Trion Universe, leading its outer void stage.

Mxy casually plays around with the very fabrics of reality on a regular basis. And he's actually busted a universe.

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@citizensentry: There is one Omnipotent being in the Marvel universe. Not two, not three. Same rules applies for the DC Universe. Using the wiki isn't going to convince people that he's nigh-omnipotent.

Anyway, Mxy got this.

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@citizensentry said:

@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:
@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:

@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:

Cyttorak just nullifies Mxyzptlk's in his dimension.

Cain was able to resist Cyttorak in his own realm. Mxy would have no problem whatsoever.

Cyttorak has nullified the Phoenix force's powers before....

Cyttorak can nullify 1/5th of the Phoenix force easily. My point is that his so called "omnipotence" in his realm was dis-proven when Cain willed away from him in his dimmension.

Besides, Phoenix Force > Cyttorak. Mxy is on Phoenix force level.

Show me the feat of Cain willing Cyttorak from his own Dimension when not even Oblivion (the embodiment of entropy which is the collapse or death of the universe) couldn't even budge Cyttorak.

Its not Cain willing Cyttorak away from his dimmension, It is Cain resisting Cyttorak's influence while in Cyttorak's dimmension

Cain resisting Cyttorak in his realm
Cain resisting Cyttorak in his realm

Was too lazy to go and find his feats so I just copied and pasted his character wiki:

Cyttorak is an immensely powerful magical deity, who is omnipotent within his Crimson Cosmos. Powerful magic users such as Doctor Strange, The Ancient One, Dormammu and Zom have invoked Cyttorak's power. The Vishanti have shown at one point to be wary of angering Cyttorak and advised Doctor Strange not to intervene with Cyttorak or any of his creations. Cyttorak's energies grant his avatar virtually limitless strength and durability.

D’Spayre plunders Cyttorak’s energies through the Juggernaut in order to control the very fabric of the Universe
D’Spayre plunders Cyttorak’s energies through the Juggernaut in order to control the very fabric of the Universe

The fraction of his power given to the Juggernaut was stated by D'Spayre to be able to control the very fabric of the Universe itself. Plundering Cyttorak’s energies from Juggernaut, D'Spayre (a mighty Fear Lord) was boosted to a near-omnipotent state (reality warper), being able to warp the universe. Not to mention, D’Spayre used his new reality warping powers to create a portal to Oblivion and reduce the Juggernaut to skeleton at one point until an enraged Juggernaut managed to defeat him.

Cyttorak's magic has allowed Juggernaut incredible durability, even keeping him alive after being stripped to bare bones. According to the original canon written by Stan Lee, Oblivion has shown to be unable to kill Juggernaut by aging him or erase him into the void, confessing that his presence was an annoying infection inside of its void that could not be voided out of existence so he spat him out of his realm in exchange of a fraction of Cyttorak’s powers. This fact showed that Cyttorak has more influence on the Juggernaut’s existence than Oblivion even inside within Oblivion's own realm.

When his avatar Juggernaut learned some spells from Crimson Cosmos he was able to overpower demon Nightmare in his domain. At that time Nightmare imprisoned Eternity by forcing every sentient being in the universe to sleep, causing Eternity to fall in a dream state, which allowed Nightmare to control him and use his cosmic powers to destroy the Earth. However, given the inability of Dr. Strange to free Eternity, Juggernaut suddenly bounce into Nightmare’s realm by using certain magical skills of Cyttorak’s powers which he learned during his exile in the Crimson Cosmos. Juggernaut by using some spells of Cyttorak’s powers was able to neutralize and mock the powers of Nightmare (boosted with the cosmic powers level of Eternity) in his own realm. This feat proves that magical powers of Cyttorak could affect or neutralize the cosmic powers of the entity Eternity.

Cyttorak’s Elf-life creations
Cyttorak’s Elf-life creations

Cyttorak has demonstrated that he can create life from nothing, as he created an entire race of elves just to worship him in the Crimson Cosmos, and he also created magical servants in order to protect his temple in South Korea. Those who were invoking Cyttorak for power were granted a variety of spells, and each had a certain effect. Those spells are: Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, Scarlet Sphere of Cyttorak, Crimson Shields of Cyttorak, Crimson Crystals of Cyttorak, Cage of Cyttorak and others.

Cyttorak traps Galactus vessel in an interdimensional corridor
Cyttorak traps Galactus vessel in an interdimensional corridor

Cyttorak is a teleporter, once used his tendrils to capture the cosmic spaceship with Galactus, Silver Surfer, Nova and Doctor Strange on it and they were helpless against him. The tendrils teared through dimensions and sucked the spaceship into the Cyttorak's realm.

Recently Cyttorak overpowered 1/5 of the Phoenix Force which was in Colossus without any effort. This feat is not all that impressive though because the Phoenix Force has been driven away by a few members of X-Men and Ultra Force, and also that Cyttorak is absolutely omnipotent in his realm.

During the Trion Saga, the Trion's dark entity possessed the Juggernaut and tapped into Cyttorak's power to power up his avatar into an universe busting level on which he was able to crack through the very fabric of space-time itself, causing the break down of multiple dimensional barriers by punching them. When Cyttorak's energies got released from Juggernaut they started destroying the unearthly Universe of the powerful Trion Gods (creators of the Triple-Evil). The rampage of Juggernaut during the Trion saga left many dimensions merged together. This feat confirms and proves once again, that magical energies of Cyttorak could destroy a multiverse. Not to mention Mephisto pointed out that Cyttorak is one of the closest candidates to being the true Satan.

Cyttorak’s energies tear a hole right through the very fabric of space-time of Trion Universe, leading its outer void stage.
Cyttorak’s energies tear a hole right through the very fabric of space-time of Trion Universe, leading its outer void stage.

Mxy casually plays around with the very fabrics of reality on a regular basis. And he's actually busted a universe.

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@citizensentry: I'm not disputing any of Cyttorak's high end feats however, a feat holds higher relevance than a wiki entry. Cain Marko being able to resist Cyttorak in his own dimension is irrefutable proof that Cyttorak is only nigh-omnipotent and not completely omnipotent in his own realm.

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@citizensentry: There is one Omnipotent being in the Marvel universe. Not two, not three. Same rules applies for the DC Universe. Using the wiki isn't going to convince people that he's nigh-omnipotent.

Anyway, Mxy got this.

In his own dimension, Cyttorak is Omnipotent. I'm quoting Cyttorak here: "My realm exists outside of everything, even natural order. My power goes unopposed while I reside within my own Crimson Cosmos, Now be gone".

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@citizensentry: I'm not disputing any of Cyttorak's high end feats however, a feat holds higher relevance than a wiki entry. Cain Marko being able to resist Cyttorak in his own dimension is irrefutable proof that Cyttorak is only nigh-omnipotent and not completely omnipotent in his own realm.

Well you see, I don't have 1000s of digital Comic books in my computer, I have to go out and find them. it takes quite a while.

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@shadowhuntr said:

@citizensentry: There is one Omnipotent being in the Marvel universe. Not two, not three. Same rules applies for the DC Universe. Using the wiki isn't going to convince people that he's nigh-omnipotent.

Anyway, Mxy got this.

In his own dimension, Cyttorak is Omnipotent. I'm quoting Cyttorak here: "My realm exists outside of everything, even natural order. My power goes unopposed while I reside within my own Crimson Cosmos, Now be gone".

Thats what Cyttorak says, but if it were true then Cain would not be able to resist him in his realm.

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@deathbyants said:
@citizensentry said:

@shadowhuntr said:

@citizensentry: There is one Omnipotent being in the Marvel universe. Not two, not three. Same rules applies for the DC Universe. Using the wiki isn't going to convince people that he's nigh-omnipotent.

Anyway, Mxy got this.

In his own dimension, Cyttorak is Omnipotent. I'm quoting Cyttorak here: "My realm exists outside of everything, even natural order. My power goes unopposed while I reside within my own Crimson Cosmos, Now be gone".

Thats what Cyttorak says, but if it were true then Cain would not be able to resist him in his realm.

RESIST. Not fully go toe to toe.

EXAMPLE: I can resist watching Nyan Cat, But I will eventually watch Nyan Cat.

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@deathbyants said:
@citizensentry said:

@shadowhuntr said:

@citizensentry: There is one Omnipotent being in the Marvel universe. Not two, not three. Same rules applies for the DC Universe. Using the wiki isn't going to convince people that he's nigh-omnipotent.

Anyway, Mxy got this.

In his own dimension, Cyttorak is Omnipotent. I'm quoting Cyttorak here: "My realm exists outside of everything, even natural order. My power goes unopposed while I reside within my own Crimson Cosmos, Now be gone".

Thats what Cyttorak says, but if it were true then Cain would not be able to resist him in his realm.

RESIST. Not fully go toe to toe.

EXAMPLE: I can resist watching Nyan Cat, But I will eventually watch Nyan Cat.

Omnipotence is complete and undoctored control over eveyone and everything. Resisting, in itself, would represent a lack of control on Cyttorak's part. You cannot resist a truly omnipotent being.

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@citizensentry said:

@deathbyants said:
@citizensentry said:

@shadowhuntr said:

@citizensentry: There is one Omnipotent being in the Marvel universe. Not two, not three. Same rules applies for the DC Universe. Using the wiki isn't going to convince people that he's nigh-omnipotent.

Anyway, Mxy got this.

In his own dimension, Cyttorak is Omnipotent. I'm quoting Cyttorak here: "My realm exists outside of everything, even natural order. My power goes unopposed while I reside within my own Crimson Cosmos, Now be gone".

Thats what Cyttorak says, but if it were true then Cain would not be able to resist him in his realm.

RESIST. Not fully go toe to toe.

EXAMPLE: I can resist watching Nyan Cat, But I will eventually watch Nyan Cat.

Omnipotence is complete and undoctored control over eveyone and everything. Resisting, in itself, would represent a lack of control on Cyttorak's part. You cannot resist a truly omnipotent being.

Well considering as I no-doubt know you already know that Cain is imbued with Cyttorak's powers. that fight would be Cyttorak vs Cyttorak.

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@citizensentry said:

@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:
@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:

@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:

Cyttorak just nullifies Mxyzptlk's in his dimension.

Cain was able to resist Cyttorak in his own realm. Mxy would have no problem whatsoever.

Cyttorak has nullified the Phoenix force's powers before....

Cyttorak can nullify 1/5th of the Phoenix force easily. My point is that his so called "omnipotence" in his realm was dis-proven when Cain willed away from him in his dimmension.

Besides, Phoenix Force > Cyttorak. Mxy is on Phoenix force level.

Show me the feat of Cain willing Cyttorak from his own Dimension when not even Oblivion (the embodiment of entropy which is the collapse or death of the universe) couldn't even budge Cyttorak.

Its not Cain willing Cyttorak away from his dimmension, It is Cain resisting Cyttorak's influence while in Cyttorak's dimmension

Cain resisting Cyttorak in his realm
Cain resisting Cyttorak in his realm

Was too lazy to go and find his feats so I just copied and pasted his character wiki:

Cyttorak is an immensely powerful magical deity, who is omnipotent within his Crimson Cosmos. Powerful magic users such as Doctor Strange, The Ancient One, Dormammu and Zom have invoked Cyttorak's power. The Vishanti have shown at one point to be wary of angering Cyttorak and advised Doctor Strange not to intervene with Cyttorak or any of his creations. Cyttorak's energies grant his avatar virtually limitless strength and durability.

D’Spayre plunders Cyttorak’s energies through the Juggernaut in order to control the very fabric of the Universe
D’Spayre plunders Cyttorak’s energies through the Juggernaut in order to control the very fabric of the Universe

The fraction of his power given to the Juggernaut was stated by D'Spayre to be able to control the very fabric of the Universe itself. Plundering Cyttorak’s energies from Juggernaut, D'Spayre (a mighty Fear Lord) was boosted to a near-omnipotent state (reality warper), being able to warp the universe. Not to mention, D’Spayre used his new reality warping powers to create a portal to Oblivion and reduce the Juggernaut to skeleton at one point until an enraged Juggernaut managed to defeat him.

Cyttorak's magic has allowed Juggernaut incredible durability, even keeping him alive after being stripped to bare bones. According to the original canon written by Stan Lee, Oblivion has shown to be unable to kill Juggernaut by aging him or erase him into the void, confessing that his presence was an annoying infection inside of its void that could not be voided out of existence so he spat him out of his realm in exchange of a fraction of Cyttorak’s powers. This fact showed that Cyttorak has more influence on the Juggernaut’s existence than Oblivion even inside within Oblivion's own realm.

When his avatar Juggernaut learned some spells from Crimson Cosmos he was able to overpower demon Nightmare in his domain. At that time Nightmare imprisoned Eternity by forcing every sentient being in the universe to sleep, causing Eternity to fall in a dream state, which allowed Nightmare to control him and use his cosmic powers to destroy the Earth. However, given the inability of Dr. Strange to free Eternity, Juggernaut suddenly bounce into Nightmare’s realm by using certain magical skills of Cyttorak’s powers which he learned during his exile in the Crimson Cosmos. Juggernaut by using some spells of Cyttorak’s powers was able to neutralize and mock the powers of Nightmare (boosted with the cosmic powers level of Eternity) in his own realm. This feat proves that magical powers of Cyttorak could affect or neutralize the cosmic powers of the entity Eternity.

Cyttorak’s Elf-life creations
Cyttorak’s Elf-life creations

Cyttorak has demonstrated that he can create life from nothing, as he created an entire race of elves just to worship him in the Crimson Cosmos, and he also created magical servants in order to protect his temple in South Korea. Those who were invoking Cyttorak for power were granted a variety of spells, and each had a certain effect. Those spells are: Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, Scarlet Sphere of Cyttorak, Crimson Shields of Cyttorak, Crimson Crystals of Cyttorak, Cage of Cyttorak and others.

Cyttorak traps Galactus vessel in an interdimensional corridor
Cyttorak traps Galactus vessel in an interdimensional corridor

Cyttorak is a teleporter, once used his tendrils to capture the cosmic spaceship with Galactus, Silver Surfer, Nova and Doctor Strange on it and they were helpless against him. The tendrils teared through dimensions and sucked the spaceship into the Cyttorak's realm.

Recently Cyttorak overpowered 1/5 of the Phoenix Force which was in Colossus without any effort. This feat is not all that impressive though because the Phoenix Force has been driven away by a few members of X-Men and Ultra Force, and also that Cyttorak is absolutely omnipotent in his realm.

During the Trion Saga, the Trion's dark entity possessed the Juggernaut and tapped into Cyttorak's power to power up his avatar into an universe busting level on which he was able to crack through the very fabric of space-time itself, causing the break down of multiple dimensional barriers by punching them. When Cyttorak's energies got released from Juggernaut they started destroying the unearthly Universe of the powerful Trion Gods (creators of the Triple-Evil). The rampage of Juggernaut during the Trion saga left many dimensions merged together. This feat confirms and proves once again, that magical energies of Cyttorak could destroy a multiverse. Not to mention Mephisto pointed out that Cyttorak is one of the closest candidates to being the true Satan.

Cyttorak’s energies tear a hole right through the very fabric of space-time of Trion Universe, leading its outer void stage.
Cyttorak’s energies tear a hole right through the very fabric of space-time of Trion Universe, leading its outer void stage.

Mxy casually plays around with the very fabrics of reality on a regular basis. And he's actually busted a universe.

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Well then, it's a good thing Cyttorak isn't omnipotent. Not in his dimension, and not outside either.

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@citizensentry said:

@mysticmedivh said:

@citizensentry said:

@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:
@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:

@deathbyants said:

@citizensentry said:

Cyttorak just nullifies Mxyzptlk's in his dimension.

Cain was able to resist Cyttorak in his own realm. Mxy would have no problem whatsoever.

Cyttorak has nullified the Phoenix force's powers before....

Cyttorak can nullify 1/5th of the Phoenix force easily. My point is that his so called "omnipotence" in his realm was dis-proven when Cain willed away from him in his dimmension.

Besides, Phoenix Force > Cyttorak. Mxy is on Phoenix force level.

Show me the feat of Cain willing Cyttorak from his own Dimension when not even Oblivion (the embodiment of entropy which is the collapse or death of the universe) couldn't even budge Cyttorak.

Its not Cain willing Cyttorak away from his dimmension, It is Cain resisting Cyttorak's influence while in Cyttorak's dimmension

Cain resisting Cyttorak in his realm
Cain resisting Cyttorak in his realm

Was too lazy to go and find his feats so I just copied and pasted his character wiki:

Cyttorak is an immensely powerful magical deity, who is omnipotent within his Crimson Cosmos. Powerful magic users such as Doctor Strange, The Ancient One, Dormammu and Zom have invoked Cyttorak's power. The Vishanti have shown at one point to be wary of angering Cyttorak and advised Doctor Strange not to intervene with Cyttorak or any of his creations. Cyttorak's energies grant his avatar virtually limitless strength and durability.

D’Spayre plunders Cyttorak’s energies through the Juggernaut in order to control the very fabric of the Universe
D’Spayre plunders Cyttorak’s energies through the Juggernaut in order to control the very fabric of the Universe

The fraction of his power given to the Juggernaut was stated by D'Spayre to be able to control the very fabric of the Universe itself. Plundering Cyttorak’s energies from Juggernaut, D'Spayre (a mighty Fear Lord) was boosted to a near-omnipotent state (reality warper), being able to warp the universe. Not to mention, D’Spayre used his new reality warping powers to create a portal to Oblivion and reduce the Juggernaut to skeleton at one point until an enraged Juggernaut managed to defeat him.

Cyttorak's magic has allowed Juggernaut incredible durability, even keeping him alive after being stripped to bare bones. According to the original canon written by Stan Lee, Oblivion has shown to be unable to kill Juggernaut by aging him or erase him into the void, confessing that his presence was an annoying infection inside of its void that could not be voided out of existence so he spat him out of his realm in exchange of a fraction of Cyttorak’s powers. This fact showed that Cyttorak has more influence on the Juggernaut’s existence than Oblivion even inside within Oblivion's own realm.

When his avatar Juggernaut learned some spells from Crimson Cosmos he was able to overpower demon Nightmare in his domain. At that time Nightmare imprisoned Eternity by forcing every sentient being in the universe to sleep, causing Eternity to fall in a dream state, which allowed Nightmare to control him and use his cosmic powers to destroy the Earth. However, given the inability of Dr. Strange to free Eternity, Juggernaut suddenly bounce into Nightmare’s realm by using certain magical skills of Cyttorak’s powers which he learned during his exile in the Crimson Cosmos. Juggernaut by using some spells of Cyttorak’s powers was able to neutralize and mock the powers of Nightmare (boosted with the cosmic powers level of Eternity) in his own realm. This feat proves that magical powers of Cyttorak could affect or neutralize the cosmic powers of the entity Eternity.

Cyttorak’s Elf-life creations
Cyttorak’s Elf-life creations

Cyttorak has demonstrated that he can create life from nothing, as he created an entire race of elves just to worship him in the Crimson Cosmos, and he also created magical servants in order to protect his temple in South Korea. Those who were invoking Cyttorak for power were granted a variety of spells, and each had a certain effect. Those spells are: Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, Scarlet Sphere of Cyttorak, Crimson Shields of Cyttorak, Crimson Crystals of Cyttorak, Cage of Cyttorak and others.

Cyttorak traps Galactus vessel in an interdimensional corridor
Cyttorak traps Galactus vessel in an interdimensional corridor

Cyttorak is a teleporter, once used his tendrils to capture the cosmic spaceship with Galactus, Silver Surfer, Nova and Doctor Strange on it and they were helpless against him. The tendrils teared through dimensions and sucked the spaceship into the Cyttorak's realm.

Recently Cyttorak overpowered 1/5 of the Phoenix Force which was in Colossus without any effort. This feat is not all that impressive though because the Phoenix Force has been driven away by a few members of X-Men and Ultra Force, and also that Cyttorak is absolutely omnipotent in his realm.

During the Trion Saga, the Trion's dark entity possessed the Juggernaut and tapped into Cyttorak's power to power up his avatar into an universe busting level on which he was able to crack through the very fabric of space-time itself, causing the break down of multiple dimensional barriers by punching them. When Cyttorak's energies got released from Juggernaut they started destroying the unearthly Universe of the powerful Trion Gods (creators of the Triple-Evil). The rampage of Juggernaut during the Trion saga left many dimensions merged together. This feat confirms and proves once again, that magical energies of Cyttorak could destroy a multiverse. Not to mention Mephisto pointed out that Cyttorak is one of the closest candidates to being the true Satan.

Cyttorak’s energies tear a hole right through the very fabric of space-time of Trion Universe, leading its outer void stage.
Cyttorak’s energies tear a hole right through the very fabric of space-time of Trion Universe, leading its outer void stage.

Mxy casually plays around with the very fabrics of reality on a regular basis. And he's actually busted a universe.

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Well then, it's a good thing Cyttorak isn't omnipotent. Not in his dimension, and not outside either.

Prove that Cyttorak isn't Omnipotent.

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#32  Edited By mysticmedivh

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Cyttorak just nullifies Mxyzptlk's in his dimension.

Cain was able to resist Cyttorak in his own realm. Mxy would have no problem whatsoever.

Cyttorak has nullified the Phoenix force's powers before....

Cyttorak can nullify 1/5th of the Phoenix force easily. My point is that his so called "omnipotence" in his realm was dis-proven when Cain willed away from him in his dimmension.

Besides, Phoenix Force > Cyttorak. Mxy is on Phoenix force level.

Show me the feat of Cain willing Cyttorak from his own Dimension when not even Oblivion (the embodiment of entropy which is the collapse or death of the universe) couldn't even budge Cyttorak.

Its not Cain willing Cyttorak away from his dimmension, It is Cain resisting Cyttorak's influence while in Cyttorak's dimmension

Cain resisting Cyttorak in his realm
Cain resisting Cyttorak in his realm

Was too lazy to go and find his feats so I just copied and pasted his character wiki:

Cyttorak is an immensely powerful magical deity, who is omnipotent within his Crimson Cosmos. Powerful magic users such as Doctor Strange, The Ancient One, Dormammu and Zom have invoked Cyttorak's power. The Vishanti have shown at one point to be wary of angering Cyttorak and advised Doctor Strange not to intervene with Cyttorak or any of his creations. Cyttorak's energies grant his avatar virtually limitless strength and durability.

D’Spayre plunders Cyttorak’s energies through the Juggernaut in order to control the very fabric of the Universe
D’Spayre plunders Cyttorak’s energies through the Juggernaut in order to control the very fabric of the Universe

The fraction of his power given to the Juggernaut was stated by D'Spayre to be able to control the very fabric of the Universe itself. Plundering Cyttorak’s energies from Juggernaut, D'Spayre (a mighty Fear Lord) was boosted to a near-omnipotent state (reality warper), being able to warp the universe. Not to mention, D’Spayre used his new reality warping powers to create a portal to Oblivion and reduce the Juggernaut to skeleton at one point until an enraged Juggernaut managed to defeat him.

Cyttorak's magic has allowed Juggernaut incredible durability, even keeping him alive after being stripped to bare bones. According to the original canon written by Stan Lee, Oblivion has shown to be unable to kill Juggernaut by aging him or erase him into the void, confessing that his presence was an annoying infection inside of its void that could not be voided out of existence so he spat him out of his realm in exchange of a fraction of Cyttorak’s powers. This fact showed that Cyttorak has more influence on the Juggernaut’s existence than Oblivion even inside within Oblivion's own realm.

When his avatar Juggernaut learned some spells from Crimson Cosmos he was able to overpower demon Nightmare in his domain. At that time Nightmare imprisoned Eternity by forcing every sentient being in the universe to sleep, causing Eternity to fall in a dream state, which allowed Nightmare to control him and use his cosmic powers to destroy the Earth. However, given the inability of Dr. Strange to free Eternity, Juggernaut suddenly bounce into Nightmare’s realm by using certain magical skills of Cyttorak’s powers which he learned during his exile in the Crimson Cosmos. Juggernaut by using some spells of Cyttorak’s powers was able to neutralize and mock the powers of Nightmare (boosted with the cosmic powers level of Eternity) in his own realm. This feat proves that magical powers of Cyttorak could affect or neutralize the cosmic powers of the entity Eternity.

Cyttorak’s Elf-life creations
Cyttorak’s Elf-life creations

Cyttorak has demonstrated that he can create life from nothing, as he created an entire race of elves just to worship him in the Crimson Cosmos, and he also created magical servants in order to protect his temple in South Korea. Those who were invoking Cyttorak for power were granted a variety of spells, and each had a certain effect. Those spells are: Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, Scarlet Sphere of Cyttorak, Crimson Shields of Cyttorak, Crimson Crystals of Cyttorak, Cage of Cyttorak and others.

Cyttorak traps Galactus vessel in an interdimensional corridor
Cyttorak traps Galactus vessel in an interdimensional corridor

Cyttorak is a teleporter, once used his tendrils to capture the cosmic spaceship with Galactus, Silver Surfer, Nova and Doctor Strange on it and they were helpless against him. The tendrils teared through dimensions and sucked the spaceship into the Cyttorak's realm.

Recently Cyttorak overpowered 1/5 of the Phoenix Force which was in Colossus without any effort. This feat is not all that impressive though because the Phoenix Force has been driven away by a few members of X-Men and Ultra Force, and also that Cyttorak is absolutely omnipotent in his realm.

During the Trion Saga, the Trion's dark entity possessed the Juggernaut and tapped into Cyttorak's power to power up his avatar into an universe busting level on which he was able to crack through the very fabric of space-time itself, causing the break down of multiple dimensional barriers by punching them. When Cyttorak's energies got released from Juggernaut they started destroying the unearthly Universe of the powerful Trion Gods (creators of the Triple-Evil). The rampage of Juggernaut during the Trion saga left many dimensions merged together. This feat confirms and proves once again, that magical energies of Cyttorak could destroy a multiverse. Not to mention Mephisto pointed out that Cyttorak is one of the closest candidates to being the true Satan.

Cyttorak’s energies tear a hole right through the very fabric of space-time of Trion Universe, leading its outer void stage.
Cyttorak’s energies tear a hole right through the very fabric of space-time of Trion Universe, leading its outer void stage.

Mxy casually plays around with the very fabrics of reality on a regular basis. And he's actually busted a universe.

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Well then, it's a good thing Cyttorak isn't omnipotent. Not in his dimension, and not outside either.

Prove that Cyttorak isn't Omnipotent.

Just because my arm has never been broken in my life doesn't mean it's the most durable thing in the universe.

Prove that he is absolutely and truly omnipotent. What you copy pasted doesn't mean he's omnipotent.

Seriously though, HOTU Thanos, Living Tribunal, Pre-Retcon Beyonder, and all those other guys would have no problem defeating Cyttorak in his dimension.

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#33  Edited By gohf

I'm unsure whether people are trolling in regards to Marko Cain having resisted or overpowered Cyttorak while in Cyttorak's dimension.

Marko Cain overpowered Cyttorak's presence in his (Marko's) mind. That's it. If I'm not in mistake, this was during the Trion storyline, where in order to stop the Juggernaut who was being remotely controlled (and put on overdrive) by Cyttorak, the X-men accessed Marko's brain to get Marko's personality to regain control over his own mind. That's it. Marko overpowered Cyttorak's remote presence in his (Marko's) own mind.

That said, reality manipulation is (imo) the dumbest power due to how poorly defined it is. Do anything and everything, except not really for no particular reason. Inside Cyttorak's dimension, Cyttorak is simply unchallenged by anything - he is that dimensions' "one above all". But what's stopping the reality manipulator from being outside Cyt's dimension and simply willing it to no longer exist? It's just a silly match-up, to put a reality manipulator against anything (including another one).

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#34  Edited By tensor

Mxyzptlk's stomp.

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@gohf said:

Marko Cain overpowered Cyttorak's presence in his (Marko's) mind. That's it. If I'm not in mistake, this was during the Trion storyline, where in order to stop the Juggernaut who was being remotely controlled (and put on overdrive) by Cyttorak, the X-men accessed Marko's brain to get Marko's personality to regain control over his own mind. That's it. Marko overpowered Cyttorak's remote presence in his (Marko's) own mind.

You are mistaken. Cain physically fought against Cyttorak after being dragged to his dimension. Xavier entered Cain's mind to help him fight against Cyttorak because he was getting destroyed.

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