I might just be stiring up something big here...
Mr Mxyzplk vs Eternity
Eternity, would be my guess. Mxy is strong though.
@jmarshmallow said:
Eternity stomps!
Jmarshmallow
Based on?
Mxyzptlk wins.
eternity if you assume that eternity holds a higher position in the cosmic heirarchy. i would assume that nothing less than eternity has any hope of beating him because everything they are is a part of him. eternity wins
@hyperlight: He holds that position in Marvel Universe and besides cosmic hierarchy means nothing to what can Mxy do. Spectre is actually a piece of the Presence and usually referred as his wrath and has the authority to judge every reality in DC but Emperor Joker, who had the power of Mxzptlk still overpowered without effort, though Hal Jordan was inexperienced with the power of Spectre.
@jwwprod: Mxy is only powerful because of his origins of the 5th dimension.
Eternity is every dimension!
Jmarshmallow
@jmarshmallow: Mxyzptlk has shown much better stuff if you ask me.
@baron_von_santa said:
Mxy stomps. he is more powerful than spectre and the spectre's feats are better than eternity's
This.
@jmarshmallow: Mxyzptlk has shown much better stuff if you ask me.
I'm asking, not disputing, but if you have the scans handy please share. Don't know much about Mxy particulars so would be a learning experience. Thanks.
@green_skaar said:
@jmarshmallow: Mxyzptlk has shown much better stuff if you ask me.
I'm asking, not disputing, but if you have the scans handy please share. Don't know much about Mxy particulars so would be a learning experience. Thanks.
Talk to SithLantern93 or read the Emperor Joker story arc, the Joker had Mxy's powers and was stated to be a multiversal threat.
Mxy stomps. he is more powerful than spectre and the spectre's feats are better than eternity's
Spectre's war on magic caused this. Emperor Joker stomped an inexperienced Hal Jordan.
@jwwprod: To be fair, Eternity isn't just a Multiversal threat.
He IS the multiverse.
Jmarshmallow
@jmarshmallow: You are confusing him with Multi-Eternity.
@sithlantern93: emperor joker is not as experienced as Mxy himself too
@baron_von_santa: It is 1-1.
@jmarshmallow: You are confusing him with Multi-Eternity.
Who in the world is multi-eternity?
@sithlantern93: what?
@baron_von_santa: It means stalemate as both have beaten each other for. @man_of_miracles: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/13/134418/2718226-530048_multieternity16doft6_super.jpg
@man_of_miracles said:
@jmarshmallow: You are confusing him with Multi-Eternity.
Who in the world is multi-eternity?
@sithlantern93: You're right, that's what I'm thinking of!
Multi-Eternity would stomp.
But Mxy beats regular Eternity handily, given he can recreate the multiverse.
Jmarshmallow
@jmarshmallow: Multi Eternity does not stomp Mxyzptlk.
@sithlantern93: ...seriously? He'd destroy Mxy. That would be spite.
Jmarshmallow
@jmarshmallow: Mxy has the power to level all space,time and reality. Just because he is a prankster and usually displays plantery level feats does not mean that he is incapable of accomplishing. It would be a good match up.
@sithlantern93 said:
@jmarshmallow: Mxy has the power to level all space,time and reality. Just because he is a prankster and usually displays plantery level feats does not mean that he is incapable of accomplishing. It would be a good match up.
Agree.
@sithlantern93: ...seriously? He'd destroy Mxy. That would be spite.
Jmarshmallow
No it would not be spite. It doesn't matter if its Multi Eternity or not. The point is that no version of Eternity has demonstrated feats that would necessarily put it above Mxy. Eternity lost to Thanos with the IG. The IG has demonstrated nothing that Mxy can't do. Thanos with IG killed half the universe with a thought...is there a reason why Mxy who has near complete control over reality can't do the same thing? Mxy most certainly has demonstrated feats on par with the IG. There is no reason to even say that the IG would stomp Mxy, let alone Eternity.
As for the fight, Mxy should win, but it wouldn't be a stomp in any case.
@jmarshmallow: Mxy has the power to level all space,time and reality. Just because he is a prankster and usually displays plantery level feats does not mean that he is incapable of accomplishing. It would be a good match up.
Agreed.
Mxy stomps
@eisjfiejss: Again, back to my original logic.
Mxy= 5th dimensional powers.
Multi-Eternity= Every dimension.
Jmarshmallow
@eisjfiejss: Again, back to my original logic.
Mxy= 5th dimensional powers.
Multi-Eternity= Every dimension.
Jmarshmallow
Did you even read what I wrote? The point is that Eternity's feats has demonstrated nothing that says
Multi-Eternity = Every dimension.
Abraxas overpowered Eternity, but even Abraxas has demonstrated nothing that says it has the power of every dimension in Marvel. All of your logic is based on Eternity's status. That is far from enough to suggest anything, considering that Eternity's feats actually disprove that status.
Mxyzptlk wins.
@eisjfiejss: You are absolutely correct. I'm basing it entirely on his position in the universe.
No, I don't have any concrete feats that say that Multi-Eternity could beat Mxy.
But, I also don't have any concrete feats that say that TOAA would beat Mxy. Heck, I don't even have the feats to say he would beat a moderate Celestial.
But I know he would.
I'm basing my judgement completely on faith, so I can't argue it. That's just my opinion, one that will never truly be decided, unless they make a canon crossover or something like that. Probably won't happen, but whatever.
Jmarshmallow
@eisjfiejss: You are absolutely correct. I'm basing it entirely on his position in the universe.
No, I don't have any concrete feats that say that Multi-Eternity could beat Mxy.
But, I also don't have any concrete feats that say that TOAA would beat Mxy. Heck, I don't even have the feats to say he would beat a moderate Celestial.
But I know he would.
I'm basing my judgement completely on faith, so I can't argue it. That's just my opinion, one that will never truly be decided, unless they make a canon crossover or something like that. Probably won't happen, but whatever.
Jmarshmallow
I see. But you can't compare TOAA to Eternity. Eternity has lost before, so we know his upper limit. TOAA has not. In fact, the HOTU being a portion of TOAA's power is enough affirmation that TOAA will beat Mxy.
@sithlantern93: Eternity, like Mxy, can actually do a lot of stuff you have mention, its just his desire not to fight is what limits the number of feats. People tend to forget, Eternity is the default supreme being of his reality (yes TOAA and LT are above him, but apart from people pop up for 1 story arc, they are the only 2 people above him).
But do know that i am not entirely disagreeing with you or saying you are wrong, but putting forward points about Eternity.
In regards to Spectre saying Joker could threaten all reality, here is one from Eternity.
"And once we immerge ourselves in his essence, descend into the very core of his being, we will have absorbed enough power to .. be undisputed lord of ALL CREATION"
Once Dormammu merged with Eternity, he detonates Eternity heart, triggering another creation even which he could mold "every being and things in ALL the Universesin my image".
War on Magic affected Mxy, as the scan you posted, wouldnt a being who embodiment everything, including magic, be a major threat to him then? (i ask because i am curious)
"Beyond the bounds of reality lies an entity named Eternity. He is the manifestation of all things including magic"
There are a lot of things we know about Eternity, but he sheldom fights. I could post Eternity vs Nightmare or stuffs like that but none of them are anywhere close to Mxy, and Eternity pretty much won with a wave of his hand.
I honestly dont think its a mismatch or anything, and whoever wins, i think its pretty close.
Mxy stomps
Based on?
Before you misunderstand, i am not saying you are wrong, my knoweledge of Mxy is very limited, i am just curious to why you think its a stomp, and i wanna see if i can come up with feats and scans to counter what you have to say (maybe cant who knows).
Wanna try?
Considering that it was stated Joker was wrecking havoc across the entire 5th dimension (at the beginning of the arc, no less, which means he wasn't even beginning to fully utilize Mxy's full potential) filled with all powerful beings (5 D imps) id say that puts Mxy above eternity.
@sithlantern93: ...seriously? He'd destroy Mxy. That would be spite.
Jmarshmallow
No it would not be spite. It doesn't matter if its Multi Eternity or not. The point is that no version of Eternity has demonstrated feats that would necessarily put it above Mxy. Eternity lost to Thanos with the IG. The IG has demonstrated nothing that Mxy can't do. Thanos with IG killed half the universe with a thought...is there a reason why Mxy who has near complete control over reality can't do the same thing? Mxy most certainly has demonstrated feats on par with the IG. There is no reason to even say that the IG would stomp Mxy, let alone Eternity.
As for the fight, Mxy should win, but it wouldn't be a stomp in any case.
Thanos with IG is above mxy, are you implying that mxy is a multiversal being? Arguably eternity is 2nd to the living tribunal, mxy = spectre <<<<< living tribunal When adam warlock had the infinity gauntlet it was clearly stated that multiple universes would be destroyed if a being as powerful as the living tribunal were to go into combat with someone holding the IG, now mxy has recreated a universe, but he's shown nothing that would make him multiversal. Eternity is the embodiment of the universe, therefore he has no reason to fight on behalf of anyone's battles and that's why he has less feats
But back to topic, it would either be a stalemate or mxy winning
@theanalyser: Eternity is the embodiment of the multiverse. If mxy is not multiversal as you said what chance does he have?
Mxy stomps. he is more powerful than spectre and the spectre's feats are better than eternity's
ACTUALLY SCRATCH THAT ETERNITY.
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