Heya, i was going soft, you went quite rough.
Let's be clear, going by feats, if in dc's arc majestros did not do anything really good from that point of view, he won't be able imho, i said it could depend because i did not wanted to be rough.
With op better specified, i stand my point.To scientists alot more expert than majestros it took longer , with ALOT more knowledge.
You cannot tell by sure, because majestros has not done anything that level before, and i can't be sure the other way. Let's be honest, it's all in our personal opinion.
I remeber his computer could research every data of the universe, not the multiverse.As always, i could easily be mistaking.
And about the magic/molecular manipulation, as magic is "magic", it can do things "magically", without a scientific backup.
So, how do you know it was manipulating molecules?
I'm not really sure what your "let's be clear" line is talking about. Majestic doesn't have to have done anything "really good" while he was in DC for his other feats to matter. But, if that's the way you want to play it, when he appeared on DC Earth the smartest people ("the finest technical minds on Earth" as it was stated, and that also included some minds from Krypton by the way since Eradicator was there) there had a plan to stop a time storm that was ripping reality apart. Majestic took one look at a device that they had created and not only did he instantly know everything about how it would function, but he was able to tell them that their plan wouldn't work. So, Majestic, in seconds, proved to be smarter that "the finest technical minds" of DC. That's a pretty significant feat of intelligence.
The idea that it took scientists "a lot more expert than Maj" longer with more knowledge is a weak one. Why are they more expert? Because they had more time and knowledge? OK, their "expert status" is irrelevant. They may have had more time, but with Majestic's speed, he can experience far more time than they've ever had in their lives, so their greater time is simply incorrect. And they may have had more knowledge, but that was before Majestic put his own super computers and remarkable personal intelligence to the task, so "more knowledge" now goes to him. Majestic could have more time and more knowledge of the power cosmic, and that's before getting into him simply taking the knowledge that's already been gathered. I've already made it clear that you were mistaken about what the Kheran Difference Engine could do. It says, on panel, that its accessing computers from alternate Earths. What is Earth 616 (or any other Marvel Earth) but an alternate Earth? The idea that Marvel is for some reason too separate for him to access doesn't really come from anywhere in the comic. The fact that the worlds have crossed over multiple time actually suggests that they're close enough for Majestic to access. And just so we're clear, I don't think Majestic needs to get on Reed Richard's computer or something to get info about the Silver Surfer. Majestic's computer is a powerful machine on its own, but peaking just rips your argument to shreds so I figured I'd take the short way.
Majestic being able to the limit a far more potent power (also his experience with handling several different far more potent reality warping powers throughout his life) suggests to me that he'd be able to steal the power cosmic. You think he couldn't because he hasn't studied it even though his brilliance and technology means he could and because he hasn't been around it as long even though his speed means he could study for longer than anyone else has. The only support you have for him not being able to do it is that you think it would be too hard, but he has used a mix of science and magic to warp reality, trapped someone with the power to literally rewrite reality, cut off a multiversal reality warper from the full extent of his powers, embarrassed the most brilliant minds of DC Earth, he has hands on experience with harvesting cosmic energy, and regularly goes around instantly understanding alien energies and technologies. Majestic handles energy of this sort and greater, so him stealing the power cosmic seems more than doable. And you haven't even responded to my comment about the numerous other times technology has bested Surfer, and tech that was made by people not as smart as Reed, Doom, or Majestic, and sometimes tech that wasn't even originally built to drain the Surfer. Here's a short list: Iron Man's normal suit, Kree weaponry, the control discs from Planet Hulk (I'm aware it wasn't the only factor, but it kept him at a restricted power level), the space pirates in In Thy Name, a tech-enhanced Skrull, the "leech gauntlets" from that mercenary group created by Ron Marz, Dynamo City, and GIGO. Tech works on power cosmic users and you don't have to be smarter than everyone on DC Earth to come up with it.
You say he hasn't done anything like it before, but Majestic has become one with the cosmos before by mixing science and magic. He basically gave himself the power cosmic (I'd say he was even more in tune with cosmic energy than Surfer was because it was him) so how is that nothing close to what I'm saying? Because he didn't take it from someone and just gave it to himself directly? Seems like an even more impressive feat than stealing it, but ok. As I've mentioned multiple times, he also fought Spartan and was able limit his use of his own Void powers until he let him access them. Majestic controlling someone's access to reality warping powers even greater than the Power Cosmic seems close. Not enough? How about the time when he used the Creation Blades to cut off Tao from his reality warping powers? Majestic messes around with greater energies than the power cosmic. Sure, these are to some extent personal opinions, but mine are supported by the fact that Majestic has done this level of cosmic energy play before while yours is based on the idea that it's too hard even though its been done multiple times before.
Your response is to just use the word magic over and over? Someone applied an unidentifiable energy to Majestic and turned him to stone. He undid it without any aid. The powers these characters would use are canonically referred to as the source of the previously mentioned energy. You want to split it up into "science energy" and "magic energy" but when they're just random energy blasts, it's really not that much different, especially when you have Dr. Strange saying that magic comes from the stars. They're both just PIS energy sources. Really though, the matter manipulation discussion is foolishness since no matter gets manipulated if Majestic already has the power cosmic at his command.
wait wait, tony's basic armour did not drain SS from his power, but gained a bit of power from hi, it's quite different.
About the "Majestic confronting with the dc minds", i've said that here in italy that arch simply does not exist, so i could not know anything bout it.
Anyway, as we stand here, i say: all the part about using the creation blades and Univeral majestic don't apply here(he does not have any of those two conditions)
I say:Even if, and i say if, he found a way of draining/stealing the power cosmic, it would not be istantenous, and would not work on all heralds at once.
So, i think that morals off he's still way out of they're league.
And about studying more than anyone else:
Studying what!? how? If they are in wildstorm universe(and op has specified now), he won't find any info to study, no matter how good/fast he is at studying!
Morals on.....Depends ALL on how and if he manages to drain/steal power, because once the heralds get serious, even at half power, they can still hurt him.
My response about magic is simply: You cannot explain magic!
In every comic/fictional universe magic is very different, so strange's statement surely won't apply on wildstorm's/dc's definition of magic.
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