#1 Edited by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

The Rules:

  1. Morals: OFF
  2. Location: Coast City (DCU)
  3. Weapons: None
  4. Prep: Reed gets 1 week.

Who wins and why?

#2 Posted by The Stegman (23764 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy, faster, stronger, has pre cog, is more durable, has more devasting attacks (such as Red Hawk, Jet Gatling or Elephant Gatling) and is a better fighter.

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#3 Posted by Theorder14 (1437 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy pretty much stomps in these conditions

#4 Edited by ThatGuyWithHeadPhones (10874 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy, faster, stronger, has pre cog, is more durable, has more devasting attacks (such as Red Hawk, Jet Gatling or Elephant Gatling) and is a better fighter.

this

nuff said really

#5 Posted by Racob7 (5517 posts) - - Show Bio

It's boring to pit two people with similar powers against each other. Luffy wins in a stomp as well.

#6 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7693 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy, faster, stronger, has pre cog, is more durable, has more devasting attacks (such as Red Hawk, Jet Gatling or Elephant Gatling) and is a better fighter.

#7 Posted by xlab3000 (3185 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy

#8 Edited by Pierpat (2669 posts) - - Show Bio

No prep?!

Luffy stomps.

#10 Posted by comic_book_fan (5521 posts) - - Show Bio

reed they can't really hurt each other I just like reed more.

#11 Posted by RBT (4132 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy. Btw, I love the pic.

#12 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Posted by The Stegman (23764 posts) - - Show Bio

@theorder14: @the_stegman: @thatguywithheadphones: @racob7: @pierpat:So Reed's vast experience and advanced intellect wouldn't help him at all in this fight?

What is Reed possibly going to do with no prep, no weapons or no equipment at his disposal? He's basically going in blind fighting someone who is physically superior to him in all categories.

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#14 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7011 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalemate. Reed is virtually indestructible. Luffy is much stronger than Reed, but they wouldn't be able to hurt each other.

#15 Posted by Racob7 (5517 posts) - - Show Bio
#16 Posted by redbird3rdboywonder (3948 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy, faster, stronger, has pre cog, is more durable, has more devasting attacks (such as Red Hawk, Jet Gatling or Elephant Gatling) and is a better fighter.

#17 Edited by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

Haki (not conquerors) would enable him to pulverize reed as if he had no powers, given that equivalency is on

#18 Edited by BlackWind (5986 posts) - - Show Bio

Conquerer's Haki is basically a fodder cleaner. It hasn't yet knocked out anyone of significant willpower, has it? Regardless Luffy is better than Reed.

#19 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackwind: Not conqueror's but armament to bludgeon his ass to paste

#20 Posted by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalemate. Reed is virtually indestructible. Luffy is much stronger than Reed, but they wouldn't be able to hurt each other.

Luffy could use Haki to hurt Reed.

#21 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7011 posts) - - Show Bio

@walzo: Forget about them :/ Guess Reed does lose.

#22 Edited by comic_book_fan (5521 posts) - - Show Bio

reed is worlds smarter and they can't really hurt each other

#23 Edited by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

reed is worlds smarter and they can't really hurt each other

Being smart doesn't matter when you're facing someone who's infinitely faster and stronger than you, unless there is prep involved.

Also, Haki can be used to hurt Reed.

#24 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio
#25 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio
#26 Edited by The Stegman (23764 posts) - - Show Bio
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#27 Posted by comic_book_fan (5521 posts) - - Show Bio
#28 Edited by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

There really is no way to make this a fair battle you know. With prep, Reed wins easily, heck, give him five minutes to go grab the Ultimate Nulifier and game over.

Is the ultimate nullifier a weapon bc he can't use weapons in this fight? How do I make this fair in your opinion?

#29 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio
#30 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@carter_esque: giving arguably the smartest man in comics prep time?

duuuuuuuuuude

#31 Posted by vintage_spiderman (1197 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerx its aigtht cuz it's all about that gum gum jet pistol

#32 Posted by The Stegman (23764 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_stegman said:

There really is no way to make this a fair battle you know. With prep, Reed wins easily, heck, give him five minutes to go grab the Ultimate Nulifier and game over.

Is the ultimate nullifier a weapon bc he can't use weapons in this fight? How do I make this fair in your opinion?

Then I'm confused...what is he supposed to do with prep if NOT get weapons? Like I said, I don't see a way to make this a fair fight, with prep or no prep, one of them is gonna win pretty easily. Maybe put the ENTIRE FF (no prep) against Luffy and it might be a bit more fair..

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#33 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio
#34 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

@carter_esque said:

@the_stegman said:

There really is no way to make this a fair battle you know. With prep, Reed wins easily, heck, give him five minutes to go grab the Ultimate Nulifier and game over.

Is the ultimate nullifier a weapon bc he can't use weapons in this fight? How do I make this fair in your opinion?

Then I'm confused...what is he supposed to do with prep if NOT get weapons? Like I said, I don't see a way to make this a fair fight, with prep or no prep, one of them is gonna win pretty easily. Maybe put the ENTIRE FF (no prep) against Luffy and it might be a bit more fair..

Rofl... Luffy can't take on the whole FF in a "no morals" scenario. There are way too many ways he can be killed by each member. If I allow weapons in this fight then Reed will win too easily; without 'em he loses according to... well... everyone so I don't see a way to make this fair despite my efforts.

#35 Edited by comic_book_fan (5521 posts) - - Show Bio

reed can match luffy physically in every way some one prove me wrong.

#36 Edited by vintage_spiderman (1197 posts) - - Show Bio

@carter_esque try giving reeds help from ben and luffy help from zoro it might help a little.

muhahahahahahahah

#37 Posted by ferventking (259 posts) - - Show Bio

@comic_book_fan:

Scans of reed going supersonic, lifting 10+tons, punching so fast his hand catches on fire, etc etc

Anyway, without prep Luffy stomps via setting Reed on fire or Arma Haki to solidify Reed. With prep/no weapons... same outcome. With prep/with weapons Reed stomps in any number of ways.

#38 Edited by UltimateHero0406 (2167 posts) - - Show Bio

Before, Luffy destroyed. Now MF does.

#39 Posted by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

@carter_esque try giving reeds help from ben and luffy help from zoro it might help a little.

muhahahahahahahah

Both Luffy and Zoro probably couldn't be tagged by the Thing or Reed. They are way too fast for the two.

#40 Posted by tronboy (342 posts) - - Show Bio

how can Luffy win when you cannot hurt Mr Fantastic at al

#41 Posted by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

@tronboy said:

how can Luffy win when you cannot hurt Mr Fantastic at al

well, due to the OP changing the condition, Reed wins with ease.

However, in the original post, Luffy would destroy Reed because Luffy has an ability that allows him to target people who can't be hit by conventional means.

#42 Posted by comic_book_fan (5521 posts) - - Show Bio

@walzo: they have hit people that are that fast ben has traded punches with thor terrax and surfer and all of them are faster and it's not like they would be moving at top speed the whole time.

#43 Posted by Walzo (4355 posts) - - Show Bio

@comic_book_fan:

I don't think any of those people were actually going at their top speed.

And also, Luffy and Zoro love using their speed to win.