#1 Posted by Termination (73 posts) - - Show Bio

Both sides very bloodlusted. Only the heroes from each movie in team 1, not the villains. Feats include all Christopher Reeve movies + Superman returns. Superman absorbs sun rays for 1 hour before the fight. Fight is on Wake Island. Superman is allowed to use ALL powers that he used in the 5 movies. Can the teams pull it off? Or will Superman be too much for team Marvel?

#2 Posted by SHAZAM117 (2659 posts) - - Show Bio

This version of Supes still wins....His feats dwarf anything accomplished by team Marvel

#3 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (1525 posts) - - Show Bio

Please stop making threads with movie Superman, no one can beat him.

#4 Posted by Termination (73 posts) - - Show Bio

Movie Dr. Manhattan might be able to beat him.

#5 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16131 posts) - - Show Bio

//@Termination said:

Movie Dr. Manhattan might be able to beat him.

agreed.. I dont think he needs help on that one

#6 Posted by logy5000 (5655 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

//@Termination said:

Movie Dr. Manhattan might be able to beat him.

agreed.. I dont think he needs help on that one

Maybe not.

I actually think Superman loses here.

#7 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16131 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

@PrinceAragorn1 said:

//@Termination said:

Movie Dr. Manhattan might be able to beat him.

agreed.. I dont think he needs help on that one

Maybe not.

I actually think Superman loses here.

So do I..

#8 Posted by logy5000 (5655 posts) - - Show Bio

@PrinceAragorn1: Imo. He could take any 1 of the teams, but all 3 together would overwhelm him. (They may still have a hard time though.)

#9 Posted by YoungJustice (6683 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman loses.

I dont think there is a way he can take down Surfer without the power of SA Superman.

#10 Posted by logy5000 (5655 posts) - - Show Bio

@YoungJustice: In movie versions, Superman is most likely > Silver Surfer.

#11 Posted by Bo88gdan (4393 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel team wins ,Jean Gray with Phoenix solos

#12 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16131 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000: True. They must have trouble. Otherwise he would be an imposter :)

#13 Posted by TheCannon (17943 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman looses.

#14 Posted by logy5000 (5655 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bo88gdan said:

Marvel team wins ,Jean Gray with Phoenix solos

Superman loses. But Phoenix can't solo.

#15 Posted by jobbernos (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

@SHAZAM117 said:

This version of Supes still wins....His feats dwarf anything accomplished by team Marvel

#16 Posted by Pokeysteve (8092 posts) - - Show Bio

Phoenix was a villain and they aren't allowed here anyways.

I think Prof. X might be able to take him out. Superman never showed resistance to telepathy but at the same time there weren't any that I remember. It's arguable. And since he has no knowledge about him he won't just blitz him. Plus Thor, Hulk, Sue, and Iron Man will be decent enough distractions.

#17 Posted by logy5000 (5655 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve said:

Phoenix was a villain and they aren't allowed here anyways.

I think Prof. X might be able to take him out. Superman never showed resistance to telepathy but at the same time there weren't any that I remember. It's arguable. And since he has no knowledge about him he won't just blitz him. Plus Thor, Hulk, Sue, and Iron Man will be decent enough distractions.

Since morals are off, he probably wouldn't think twice about blitzing.

Superman was a telepath in his movies too.

#18 Posted by Pokeysteve (8092 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

@Pokeysteve said:

Phoenix was a villain and they aren't allowed here anyways.

I think Prof. X might be able to take him out. Superman never showed resistance to telepathy but at the same time there weren't any that I remember. It's arguable. And since he has no knowledge about him he won't just blitz him. Plus Thor, Hulk, Sue, and Iron Man will be decent enough distractions.

Since morals are off, he probably wouldn't think twice about blitzing.

Superman was a telepath in his movies too.

I factored in a blitz. The dude in the wheelchair probably won't be one of his first targets, it took him a while to build up speed, and I think Thor and Hulk are durable enough to not go down in one shot. When did he show telepathy in the movies? I don't remember that.

#19 Posted by logy5000 (5655 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve said:

@logy5000 said:

@Pokeysteve said:

Phoenix was a villain and they aren't allowed here anyways.

I think Prof. X might be able to take him out. Superman never showed resistance to telepathy but at the same time there weren't any that I remember. It's arguable. And since he has no knowledge about him he won't just blitz him. Plus Thor, Hulk, Sue, and Iron Man will be decent enough distractions.

Since morals are off, he probably wouldn't think twice about blitzing.

Superman was a telepath in his movies too.

I factored in a blitz. The dude in the wheelchair probably won't be one of his first targets, it took him a while to build up speed, and I think Thor and Hulk are durable enough to not go down in one shot. When did he show telepathy in the movies? I don't remember that.

He used hypnosis twice.

If both sides are bloodlusted I'm not sure whether or not he'll care who he hits 1st.

#20 Posted by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

The most recent Superman film doesn't show durability against other superhuman beings....

#21 Posted by TheTmac (472 posts) - - Show Bio

The only ones that can do anything are Hulk and Thor the rst of them are non factors.

#22 Posted by Pokeysteve (8092 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

@Pokeysteve said:

@logy5000 said:

@Pokeysteve said:

Phoenix was a villain and they aren't allowed here anyways.

I think Prof. X might be able to take him out. Superman never showed resistance to telepathy but at the same time there weren't any that I remember. It's arguable. And since he has no knowledge about him he won't just blitz him. Plus Thor, Hulk, Sue, and Iron Man will be decent enough distractions.

Since morals are off, he probably wouldn't think twice about blitzing.

Superman was a telepath in his movies too.

I factored in a blitz. The dude in the wheelchair probably won't be one of his first targets, it took him a while to build up speed, and I think Thor and Hulk are durable enough to not go down in one shot. When did he show telepathy in the movies? I don't remember that.

He used hypnosis twice.

If both sides are bloodlusted I'm not sure whether or not he'll care who he hits 1st.

I wouldn't really consider hypnosis in the same mind control league as Xavier. And I don't think he's going to kiss the whole opposing team lol. Good point about who he hits first though. Didn't even think of that.

#23 Posted by FLCL1 (9580 posts) - - Show Bio

OP isnt clear enough in his battle description.

you set superman up to lose, Phoenix and surfer and key cards

you failure

#24 Posted by PreCrisisFlea (68 posts) - - Show Bio

Movie Superman is intended to be silver/BA Superman. Most of MU team loses instantly, Surfer almost instantly, Phoenix puts up a fight then loses, though SA/BA Superman would be smart enough to put her in the FOS zoo instead of killing her, given her ties to all life in the Marvel multiverse

#25 Posted by Funsiized (3586 posts) - - Show Bio

@precrisisflea: Yeah, or he gets close to phoenix and is disintegrated instantly, or Dr. Manhattan unmakes him.

#26 Edited by PreCrisisFlea (68 posts) - - Show Bio

@funsiized: Phoenix or Dr. Manhattan can turn the universe into red solar energy or kryptonite or whatever. They can not directly unmake pre-COIE Superman, neither can any other reality warper without exploiting one of his weaknesses. Many speed tricks protect Superman from such attack - phasing, dimension hopping, time travel, etc. The idea that a reality warper, even one as powerful as Phoenix, is somehow more, or as, powerful as a pre-COIE Kryptonian doesn't really work if you examine high end pre-COIE Superman feats, like tanking the Big Bang, or only being able to be hurt by Anti Monitor because they fought in the anti matter universe, or going at light speed by strength alone.

God proxies like the Presence aside, pre-COIE Superman solos fiction. He can only lose if a weakness is exploited, and since super speed tricks counter his weaknesses, if PIS is off, pre-COIE Superman doesn't lose.

On this thread - only character with a ghost of a chance against original movie Superman is Reed. If Doom can do for pre-retcon Beyonder, maybe Reed can do pre-COIE Superman. Problem is, pre-COIE Superman is smarter than Reed

#27 Posted by ConvenientLie (644 posts) - - Show Bio

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