Both sides very bloodlusted. Only the heroes from each movie in team 1, not the villains. Feats include all Christopher Reeve movies + Superman returns. Superman absorbs sun rays for 1 hour before the fight. Fight is on Wake Island. Superman is allowed to use ALL powers that he used in the 5 movies. Can the teams pull it off? Or will Superman be too much for team Marvel?
Movie Fantastic 4, Movie X-Men, Movie Avengers Vs Movie Superman
//@Termination said:
Movie Dr. Manhattan might be able to beat him.
agreed.. I dont think he needs help on that one
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
//@Termination said:
Movie Dr. Manhattan might be able to beat him.agreed.. I dont think he needs help on that one
Maybe not.
I actually think Superman loses here.
@logy5000 said:
@PrinceAragorn1 said:
//@Termination said:
Movie Dr. Manhattan might be able to beat him.agreed.. I dont think he needs help on that one
Maybe not.
I actually think Superman loses here.
So do I..
@PrinceAragorn1: Imo. He could take any 1 of the teams, but all 3 together would overwhelm him. (They may still have a hard time though.)
Superman loses.
I dont think there is a way he can take down Surfer without the power of SA Superman.
@Bo88gdan said:
Marvel team wins ,Jean Gray with Phoenix solos
Superman loses. But Phoenix can't solo.
Phoenix was a villain and they aren't allowed here anyways.
I think Prof. X might be able to take him out. Superman never showed resistance to telepathy but at the same time there weren't any that I remember. It's arguable. And since he has no knowledge about him he won't just blitz him. Plus Thor, Hulk, Sue, and Iron Man will be decent enough distractions.
@Pokeysteve said:
Phoenix was a villain and they aren't allowed here anyways.
I think Prof. X might be able to take him out. Superman never showed resistance to telepathy but at the same time there weren't any that I remember. It's arguable. And since he has no knowledge about him he won't just blitz him. Plus Thor, Hulk, Sue, and Iron Man will be decent enough distractions.
Since morals are off, he probably wouldn't think twice about blitzing.
Superman was a telepath in his movies too.
@logy5000 said:
@Pokeysteve said:
Phoenix was a villain and they aren't allowed here anyways.
I think Prof. X might be able to take him out. Superman never showed resistance to telepathy but at the same time there weren't any that I remember. It's arguable. And since he has no knowledge about him he won't just blitz him. Plus Thor, Hulk, Sue, and Iron Man will be decent enough distractions.
Since morals are off, he probably wouldn't think twice about blitzing.
Superman was a telepath in his movies too.
I factored in a blitz. The dude in the wheelchair probably won't be one of his first targets, it took him a while to build up speed, and I think Thor and Hulk are durable enough to not go down in one shot. When did he show telepathy in the movies? I don't remember that.
@Pokeysteve said:
@logy5000 said:
@Pokeysteve said:
Phoenix was a villain and they aren't allowed here anyways.
I think Prof. X might be able to take him out. Superman never showed resistance to telepathy but at the same time there weren't any that I remember. It's arguable. And since he has no knowledge about him he won't just blitz him. Plus Thor, Hulk, Sue, and Iron Man will be decent enough distractions.
Since morals are off, he probably wouldn't think twice about blitzing.
Superman was a telepath in his movies too.
I factored in a blitz. The dude in the wheelchair probably won't be one of his first targets, it took him a while to build up speed, and I think Thor and Hulk are durable enough to not go down in one shot. When did he show telepathy in the movies? I don't remember that.
He used hypnosis twice.
If both sides are bloodlusted I'm not sure whether or not he'll care who he hits 1st.
@logy5000 said:
@Pokeysteve said:
@logy5000 said:
@Pokeysteve said:
Phoenix was a villain and they aren't allowed here anyways.
I think Prof. X might be able to take him out. Superman never showed resistance to telepathy but at the same time there weren't any that I remember. It's arguable. And since he has no knowledge about him he won't just blitz him. Plus Thor, Hulk, Sue, and Iron Man will be decent enough distractions.
Since morals are off, he probably wouldn't think twice about blitzing.
Superman was a telepath in his movies too.
I factored in a blitz. The dude in the wheelchair probably won't be one of his first targets, it took him a while to build up speed, and I think Thor and Hulk are durable enough to not go down in one shot. When did he show telepathy in the movies? I don't remember that.
He used hypnosis twice.
If both sides are bloodlusted I'm not sure whether or not he'll care who he hits 1st.
I wouldn't really consider hypnosis in the same mind control league as Xavier. And I don't think he's going to kiss the whole opposing team lol. Good point about who he hits first though. Didn't even think of that.
Movie Superman is intended to be silver/BA Superman. Most of MU team loses instantly, Surfer almost instantly, Phoenix puts up a fight then loses, though SA/BA Superman would be smart enough to put her in the FOS zoo instead of killing her, given her ties to all life in the Marvel multiverse
@precrisisflea: Yeah, or he gets close to phoenix and is disintegrated instantly, or Dr. Manhattan unmakes him.
@funsiized: Phoenix or Dr. Manhattan can turn the universe into red solar energy or kryptonite or whatever. They can not directly unmake pre-COIE Superman, neither can any other reality warper without exploiting one of his weaknesses. Many speed tricks protect Superman from such attack - phasing, dimension hopping, time travel, etc. The idea that a reality warper, even one as powerful as Phoenix, is somehow more, or as, powerful as a pre-COIE Kryptonian doesn't really work if you examine high end pre-COIE Superman feats, like tanking the Big Bang, or only being able to be hurt by Anti Monitor because they fought in the anti matter universe, or going at light speed by strength alone.
God proxies like the Presence aside, pre-COIE Superman solos fiction. He can only lose if a weakness is exploited, and since super speed tricks counter his weaknesses, if PIS is off, pre-COIE Superman doesn't lose.
On this thread - only character with a ghost of a chance against original movie Superman is Reed. If Doom can do for pre-retcon Beyonder, maybe Reed can do pre-COIE Superman. Problem is, pre-COIE Superman is smarter than Reed
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