MOVIE BATTLE: Heroes vs Villains

Heroes

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Thor, Spider-Man, Captain America, Warmachine, Iron Man, Superman

Villains

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Megatron, Agent Zero, Faora, Abomination, Lizard

Rules and Conditions

• Within character morals.
• Fight in NYC
• Win by kill or knock outs.

Ideal Matchups

1. Thor vs Abomination
2. Spider-Man vs Lizard
3. Captain America vs Agent Zero
4. Warmachine/Iron Man vs Megatron
5. Superman vs Faora

it all comes down basically to supes and faora.. in which case supes breaks her neck.

Villains.

@super_buck said:

Heroes

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Thor, Spider-Man, Captain America, Warmachine, Iron Man, Superman

Villains

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Megatron, Agent Zero, Faora, Abomination, Lizard

Ideal Matchups

• Thor vs Abomination - Thor, he have more feats on the movie and tanked punches from Hulk and obviously man-handled IM
• Spider-Man vs Lizard - SM based on great reflexes, agility and strength
• Captain America vs Agent Zero - A hard one but still leaning Zero for his accuracy, sure CA can block or throw his shield but Zero dodges via jump (which is already shown to be > Cap), if Cap have no shield, he's dead.
• Warmachine/Iron Man vs Megatron - I take IM over WM. Hard to say but I'm for IM based on maneuverability and weapons.
• Superman vs Faora - He beat Zod, so I guess that's enough proof that he can beat Faora 1 on 1.

Another one that can happen is that:

Agent Zero gets blitz by Clark or Thor's hammer, his bullet ain't working against this powerhouse. When Zero is down, Sups goes for Faora.

Then Thor's helps the rest of Team 1 and stomps them, then it'll end up Faora vs all of Team 1.

TEAM Heroes in the end.

@afueikawa: That's why he said Ideal Matchups to make it fair. Two can play at that game:

Faora blitzes Spider-Man, Captain America, Iron Man and Warmachine, while Abomination holds off Thor and possibly Superman for a few seconds. Then Faora beats Superman while Abomination beats Thor...

Heroes.Clark's only problem is Faora and Clark will beat her.Thor and Tony takes care of the rest

@reaverlation: You think Tony and Warmachine would beat Megatron?

@monsterstomp: I think Tony can solo Megatron. With War Machine's help,the Iron Man's should handle him quite well.

@reaverlation: What makes you think that? I doubt they can even tank one of his energy blasts that shredded up Sentinal Prime like nothing.

@monsterstomp: Tony was able to absorb Thor's lightning pretty well and they are pretty agile.Tony can easily launch the many missile that destroyed the chitauri whale

@reaverlation: You know how many missiles and advanced tech Megatron has tanked? Moreover the crushing depths of the ocean. I think he can tank more than Iron Man could dish out.

Heroes take it.

@monsterstomp:

Megatron will have a hard time tagging Tony. or Rhodey.

@rudebomberboy01: He'll have a hard time but once he gets them they're pretty much done for.

Team heroes ftw

Son...Just don't.

Villains

And what do you think they'll be doing while Megatron is trying to tag them?

Tony and Rhodey both have the necessary fire power to bring him down.

Nobody on the Villain team has a chance against Clark, or Thor. Maybe except Abomination, but he goes down too.

It takes a lot of military tech to completely take Megatron out. Megatron has even tanked a ton of advanced alien weaponry, survived crash landing from space. His metal is durable as hell. Harder than any material Iron Man has come across.

Not true. Faora can beat Clark and Abomination can beat Thor. Abomination had a huge lead on Hulk when they fought and Hulk was making a ragdoll out of Thor.

I know that, but I see Jarvis scanning Megatron for soft/weak spots on his body for Tony to aim at.

As durable as Megatron's armour was/is, he was still getting hurt by missiles and explosives. He's not going to walk right through Iron Man's attacks. Tony's lasers can also do quite a lot of damage, and his missiles capable of one-shotting tanks.

Tough match. Agent zero can be taken down quite easily with spidey on his tail. Hell its smart to leave him with cap. Spidey will have a hard time the the lizard and will possibly need help from cap for a distraction so he can think of a plan. Can't say who wins there. I think Iron man and WM can handle megatron although i gotta admit he does have better distraction feats. But we are talking about someone who can be hurt my military grade weaponry which iron man and WM have plenty of. If superman is willing to kill then he could take down faora but faora is pretty damn skill full when it comes to combat. Thor vs. Abomination.... ummm Thor only because his hammer is well equipped for a BFR against Blonsky. And if you are able to punch Hulk square in the face withouth your hand hurting it'd be a nice wrestling match to watch.

I doubt Faora would be able to beat Clark, true she is faster than Clark, but the one and only time Clark punched her, it ruptured her helmet. Faora cannot do any lasting damage on Clark and that can't be said the other way around unfortunately.

Abomination is not defeating Thor. Abomination was beating on a Hulk weaker than the one Thor faced.

@rudebomberboy01:

I doubt Faora would be able to beat Clark, true she is faster than Clark, but the one and only time Clark punched her, it ruptured her helmet. Faora cannot do any lasting damage on Clark and that can't be said the other way around unfortunately.

Abomination is not defeating Thor. Abomination was beating on a Hulk weaker than the one Thor faced.

- Actually Clark has hit her twice. Once after throwing Clark at the bank vault, another when Superman caught her off guard. And again, Faora temporarily knocked Clark out.

- Hulk in 08 is the same Hulk in Avengers. Looking at it like comics, you don't assume the Hulk in the second issue was far stronger than the Hulk in the first issue just because of better feats. They have the same feats.

I know that, but I see Jarvis scanning Megatron for soft/weak spots on his body for Tony to aim at.

As durable as Megatron's armour was/is, he was still getting hurt by missiles and explosives. He's not going to walk right through Iron Man's attacks. Tony's lasers can also do quite a lot of damage, and his missiles capable of one-shotting tanks.

- What weaknesses? No weaknesses were exploited. It just takes a lot of firepower to take Megatron out. When did JARVIS ever scan for weaknesses on someone as advanced as Megatron?

- Megatron survived assaults from F22's, Optimus, Autobots, and had half his face blown off by his own cannons and was still kicking. I doubt Iron Man has anything more advanced that could take him out.

Thor and Clark just solo

Heroes

yeah the rest chill out in hammocks spiderman made

@monsterstomp: Foara was not on Clark's level. She landed hits, however he was much more powerful and it was certainly prevalent. Even with Nam-Ek's help, she could not pin him down. He also got better by the time he fought Zod.

@monsterstomp:

- Actually Clark has hit her twice. Once after throwing Clark at the bank vault, another when Superman caught her off guard. And again, Faora temporarily knocked Clark out.

- Hulk in 08 is the same Hulk in Avengers. Looking at it like comics, you don't assume the Hulk in the second issue was far stronger than the Hulk in the first issue just because of better feats. They have the same feats.

-That was more of a bulrush. The first and only time Clark actually hit her with his fists, it broke her helmet and pretty much ended the fight. Clark got knocked out by Faora's clothesline, after getting slammed into the ground repeatedly by a character superior to Faora in raw strength.

-They are the same Hulk yes, but it is obvious that the 2008 version is weaker than the 2012 version. The 2008 version was getting hurt by things the 2012 version wouldn't even flinch to.

- What weaknesses? No weaknesses were exploited. It just takes a lot of firepower to take Megatron out. When did JARVIS ever scan for weaknesses on someone as advanced as Megatron?

- Megatron survived assaults from F22's, Optimus, Autobots, and had half his face blown off by his own cannons and was still kicking. I doubt Iron Man has anything more advanced that could take him out.

-Jarvis is always scanning its opponents is it not? It was able to locate the precise thing wrong with the Helicarrier rotors was it not? I don't see why it wouldn't be able to scan for soft spots on Megatron's body. This is assuming he has any in the first place.

-Megatron wasn't brushing off those said attacks though, they were clearly hurting him and he was in great pain. That only shows how well he can fight through pain. Tony's missiles/laser combination will do quite a lot of damage, and with the help of War Machine, they can bring Megatron down.

@rudebomberboy01:

-That was more of a bulrush. The first and only time Clark actually hit her with his fists, it broke her helmet and pretty much ended the fight. Clark got knocked out by Faora's clothesline, after getting slammed into the ground repeatedly by a character superior to Faora in raw strength.

-They are the same Hulk yes, but it is obvious that the 2008 version is weaker than the 2012 version. The 2008 version was getting hurt by things the 2012 version wouldn't even flinch to.

- Clark caught her off guard with a sucker punch. He won't do that here. Faora did more damage to Clark than Nam-Ek.

- Like what? 2012 Hulk wouldn't flinch to sonic cannons? Doubt it.

-Jarvis is always scanning its opponents is it not? It was able to locate the precise thing wrong with the Helicarrier rotors was it not? I don't see why it wouldn't be able to scan for soft spots on Megatron's body. This is assuming he has any in the first place.

-Megatron wasn't brushing off those said attacks though, they were clearly hurting him and he was in great pain. That only shows how well he can fight through pain. Tony's missiles/laser combination will do quite a lot of damage, and with the help of War Machine, they can bring Megatron down.

- Scanning for something wrong on the Hellicarrier is a completely different tactic than scanning someone in combat.

- I'm still not convinced. He was hit with more firepower than Iron Man and Warmachine could dish out. What happens when Iron Man or Warmachine fights someone with slightly superior metal armour? They have trouble.

Faora knocked him out already.

BullSH*T she didn't knock him out, if he was why was he still able to fight? Also she had Nam-Ek helping her.

@godzilla44: No need to quote the entire passage.

Watch the video. He was temporarily knocked out.

@monsterstomp: Wow a 3 sec KO how is that going to affect the fight, also he was starting to beat her up until Nam-Ek showed up

@godzilla44: ... How is a 3 second knock out going to effect the fight? What kind of question is that? She's knocked him out fair and square with a well levelled hit. Aside from that cheap shot, Superman has never knocked her out.

"fair and square"? She had help, and we don't know that Clark was actually ko'd for sure.

Nam-Ek kicked Clark and Faora straight up clothe-lined him. Proving Faora has the punch to take Clark out. Even before that moment, she threw him at a reinforced steel vault and Clark was tired out. Not sure if Clark was knocked out? He wasn't moving and seemed pretty wasted when Faora flipped him over. He was temporarily knocked out.

fair and square what!!!? With out Nam Ek help clark was going to win WTF, did you see when he got pissed off he threw her around and then Nam - Ek came to help. I don't even know how a close-line shows striking power, it shows the strength of how hard Nam-Ek threw him and he was still able to continue fighting. That's showing you'll have to do more than KO him to win against him.

Bro, calm your tits.

What, in that entire fight, showed that Clark was going to win? In I-Hop Faora smacked him around like he was nothing. Then Clark got a good hit into Faora which did nothing. The only reason Clark beat Faora is because of a cheap shot and a missile. Without any other interference Faora should take a majority. She's faster.

@monsterstomp: No...with Nak-Ek's help, she still couldn't beat him. Solid proof that he became better throughout the film.

@monsterstomp:

- Clark caught her off guard with a sucker punch. He won't do that here. Faora did more damage to Clark than Nam-Ek.

That still doesn't help the fact that one punch from Clark almost ended the fight. That one punch straight up broke her helmet and left her exposed. If Clark lands multiple hits on Faora, she'd be done for. Faora wouldn't be able to do any significant damage on Clark as his durability > Faora's damage output.

And if Clark gets desperate, he has his heat vision which would go right through Faora, as it has before.

- Like what? 2012 Hulk wouldn't flinch to sonic cannons? Doubt it.

The bricks on a chain..?

Abomination is not beating Thor. Thor could do to Abomination the same thing he did with the Destroyer.

- Scanning for something wrong on the Hellicarrier is a completely different tactic than scanning someone in combat.

I don't see how it's so different, but anyways.

It does it throughout this video.

- I'm still not convinced. He was hit with more firepower than Iron Man and Warmachine could dish out. What happens when Iron Man or Warmachine fights someone with slightly superior metal armour? They have trouble.

They'd have trouble with Megatron for sure, but they'd overcome it. It's their size, and superior agility that will save them from Megatron, not just their firepower, which is not lacklustre btw. Missiles capable of one-shotting tanks will do a great deal of damage on Megatron.

Even if Megatron beats Tony and Rhodey(which I doubt), he'd still have to face Thor/Clark and we both know how that matchup will go.

@rudebomberboy01:

That still doesn't help the fact that one punch from Clark almost ended the fight. That one punch straight up broke her helmet and left her exposed. If Clark lands multiple hits on Faora, she'd be done for. Faora wouldn't be able to do any significant damage on Clark as his durability > Faora's damage output.

And if Clark gets desperate, he has his heat vision which would go right through Faora, as it has before.

- I think you're giving Clark's punch a little too much credit. Faora was cheap shotted...CHEAP. Superman flew from out of the blue and king hit Faora with all his might. Its easy to knock someone down with a cheap shot than when in an actual fight. Clark doesn't get that luxury here, unless she's occupied with something else. Faora is still faster and more combat proficient than Clark is, and she definitely has what it takes to knock Clark out. She was getting a large upper hand in the I-Hop store.

- It never went right through Faora and its nothing she can't dodge or avoid.

The bricks on a chain..?

Abomination is not beating Thor. Thor could do to Abomination the same thing he did with the Destroyer.

- Still the same Hulk.

- Which was? Abomination took Hulk's hardest punches with ease. In fact, Hulk needed to half a vehicle to increase punishment. Then Abomination will plunge his bone into Thor and call it a day.

I don't see how it's so different, but anyways.

The only weakness Megatron has is probably his eyes. Just because JARVIS has scanned for weaknesses or issues before doesn't mean Megatron has a weakness. What weakness is JARVIS going to scan for? Prime killed Megatron with Cybertronian tech, which is far superior than anything Iron Man is packing.

They'd have trouble with Megatron for sure, but they'd overcome it. It's their size, and superior agility that will save them from Megatron, not just their firepower, which is not lacklustre btw. Missiles capable of one-shotting tanks will do a great deal of damage on Megatron.

Even if Megatron beats Tony and Rhodey(which I doubt), he'd still have to face Thor/Clark and we both know how that matchup will go.

- Missiles capable of one shotting tanks won't do anything to Megatron. Megatron has tanked so much more than what Iron Man and Rhodey can dish out. Moreover, when Megatron fires at them, they're out.

Heroes

@monsterstomp:

- I think you're giving Clark's punch a little too much credit. Faora was cheap shotted...CHEAP. Superman flew from out of the blue and king hit Faora with all his might. Its easy to knock someone down with a cheap shot than when in an actual fight. Clark doesn't get that luxury here, unless she's occupied with something else. Faora is still faster and more combat proficient than Clark is, and she definitely has what it takes to knock Clark out. She was getting a large upper hand in the I-Hop store.

It doesn't matter if it was a cheap shot or not. That 'cheap shot' revealed just how durable she is, Clark did the same with Zod and still couldn't bring him down.

And you have to take into consideration the fact that it is Clark's first time being in a real fight. Faora had an upper hand on an inexperienced Superman and even then, he came out on top. Nam-Ek was the one putting in the work.

Look at how Clark treats her in these few seconds.

He literally used her to bat Nam-Ek away. That should show you the difference between their strength. Faora cannot put Clark down, especially Clark from the final parts of the movie.

- It never went right through Faora and its nothing she can't dodge or avoid.

Check out 1:10secs in the video I posted above. The heat vision definitely went right through her hands. I know Faora can probably dodge it, that's why I said Clark would only use it in desperate times.

- Still the same Hulk.

Same Hulk yes, but weaker. 2012 Hulk nonchalantly one-shotting a Leviathan is better than every single striking feat the 2008 version performed. It's obvious the 2012 version is stronger than the 2008 version.

- Which was? Abomination took Hulk's hardest punches with ease. In fact, Hulk needed to half a vehicle to increase punishment. Then Abomination will plunge his bone into Thor and call it a day.

I think Hulk using cars as boxing gloves is stupid since Hulk's fists > cars, but that's just me. Abomination wasn't tanking Hulk's fists, it drew blood from him, along with a tooth. Mjolnir will do more than that.

The only weakness Megatron has is probably his eyes. Just because JARVIS has scanned for weaknesses or issues before doesn't mean Megatron has a weakness. What weakness is JARVIS going to scan for? Prime killed Megatron with Cybertronian tech, which is far superior than anything Iron Man is packing.

It doesn't necessarily have to be a weakness, just a soft spot, and the eyes can be obvious soft spots for Jarvis to scan and detect.

Blackout got taken out by a grenade launcher to the chest. Sentinel Prime got downed by an M72 LAW missile launcher(check it out on Netflix, 2:20:15secs approximately), and was forced to retreat from heavy missile fire.

- Missiles capable of one shotting tanks won't do anything to Megatron. Megatron has tanked so much more than what Iron Man and Rhodey can dish out. Moreover, when Megatron fires at them, they're out.

Grenade launchers and missiles do hurt Megatron:

Megatron is durable yes, but to say Tony's missiles won't do anything to Megatron is not right.

Megatron will have an extremely hard time tagging Rhodey or Tony with anything, and both IM/WM have the fire power to bring him down. Megatron doesn't have any dog-fighting feats.

The Heroes still win.

@rudebomberboy01: I lost interest in this. We're going to have to agree to disagree.

Fair enough dude. It happens to me sometimes too :P

I have no knowledge of Megatron so as far as I can see, this is Thor and Supes vs Faora and abomination then.

Thor and Supes win.

@super_buck:

Ideal Matchups

1. Thor vs Abomination---Thor, good fight though.
2. Spider-Man vs Lizard---Lizard or Stalemate, unless we are using Trailer feats, in that case Amazing Spider 2 clearly wins.
3. Captain America vs Agent Zero---Cap, Zero got a little screen time, but not much
4. Warmachine/Iron Man vs Megatron---Megatron
5. Superman vs Faora----This fight is going to take a long time, but Supes.

Possibility

After Thor, Amazing Spiderman 2, and Cap win their fights. They help Tony with Megatron. Then only Thor & Ironman can help vs Faora and Supes.

Heroes should win, possibly Spiderman dies if he is only ASM 1.