Movie Avengers vs Movie X-Men (of all eras)

@BlueLantern1995 said:

X-Men...Professor X defeats em all.

Elaborate.

Now my argument

1. Thor and Hulk are minds that Professor X has no practice in controlling/manipulating.
2. However, they have suffered from a lack of having to withstand telepathic assaults, which may leave them vulnerable.
3. Iceman created an ice wall that humans had to use explosives to get through.
4. Wolverine was resisting a disintegration field from Phoenix Jean who stomped the Professor.
5. Thor was tossing Jotuns like pebbles in his film.
6. Magneto froze and tossed back missiles at both the US and USSR navy fleets which would probably have hit the individual ships had Charles and Moira not stopped him.
7. Charles has some impressive freezing people feats. Three actually. One in the CIA (First Class), one in a museum (X2), and one in the White House (X2 also).
8. Storm has more weather power feats than Thor, particularly the creating of tornados thing when the Blackbird was being chased by those jets.
9. Emma was able to telepathically block Charles. Given his later freezing of at least an entire floor of CIA personnel and singling out Moira not to be frozen, this suggests her telepathical capabilities are highly developed.

There is more, but I think this is sufficient to suggest that the X-Men have the upper hand.

Mjolnir blitz solos. That thing was manhandling ice giants and Thor was just having fun like a walk in the park

Thor, Hulk, and Hawkeye for the win... got to throw in Hawkeye because I am biased -_-

tough one, lets see thor can take on magneto and storm but barely meaning he becomes weak. then the hulk can take on cyclops and wolverin with mid difficulty. cap takes on colossus but loses badly. nightcrawler takes down fury and black widow but eventually gets taken out by hawkeye. and then we have iceman and prof. x vs thor, hulk, and hawkeye. so the avengers win. just realized there are other characters so i continue, out of the avengers thor only survives. so now the fight is thor,Loki, Red Skull, Sif, Volstagg, and Happy Hogan vs Jean, Emma (first class), Gambit, Sabretooth, and Shadowcat. so then phoenix takes out thor since he is weak, the wariors three and red skrull cancel gambit, sabretooth, and shadowcat. then it is loki vs phoenix and emma, so in the end phoenix is the only surviver so the x men win but a very close battle.

@The_Roman said:

@BlueLantern1995 said:

X-Men...Professor X defeats em all.

Elaborate.

Now my argument

1. Thor and Hulk are minds that Professor X has no practice in controlling/manipulating.
2. However, they have suffered from a lack of having to withstand telepathic assaults, which may leave them vulnerable.
3. Iceman created an ice wall that humans had to use explosives to get through.
4. Wolverine was resisting a disintegration field from Phoenix Jean who stomped the Professor.
5. Thor was tossing Jotuns like pebbles in his film.
6. Magneto froze and tossed back missiles at both the US and USSR navy fleets which would probably have hit the individual ships had Charles and Moira not stopped him.
7. Charles has some impressive freezing people feats. Three actually. One in the CIA (First Class), one in a museum (X2), and one in the White House (X2 also).
8. Storm has more weather power feats than Thor, particularly the creating of tornados thing when the Blackbird was being chased by those jets.
9. Emma was able to telepathically block Charles. Given his later freezing of at least an entire floor of CIA personnel and singling out Moira not to be frozen, this suggests her telepathical capabilities are highly developed.

There is more, but I think this is sufficient to suggest that the X-Men have the upper hand.

Agree! X-men Wins!

Thor & Hulk are all that's needed,

iceman solos. he can become any manifestation of water from vapor to whatever. He is omega level

@BeaverSauce said:

iceman solos. he can become any manifestation of water from vapor to whatever. He is omega level

Movie versions only.

To the death, and you put Wolverine?

Neither side can win, simply because they have no way to kill the opposing team entirely.

Hulk and Thor are stopped by the combined psychic effort of Emma, Charles and Jean

Iron Man and War Machine crushed by Magneto in a split second

Captain America eventually gets beaten by Wolverine with help from Colossus (see below for debate!)

Black Widow, Hawkeye, Nick Fury, Red Skull, Hogan, Volstagg and Sif get overpowered by Cyclops, Storm, Iceman, Gambit, Sabretooth and Shadowcat

Loki is the wild card, but if psychics can effect him then he is done

@ssejllenrad said:

Would Thor nullify Storm's control over lightning?

Anyway, I'm picking Avengers. Better feats against bigger threats. This Mags would definitely own Iron Man though.

Idk movie x-men have impressive feats the only threat the avengers have are thor and hulk and i would love to see hulk and wolvie fight. and Jean and thor would go at it. And the movie invaders didn't have impressive powers it was a massive army with ok brawlers and giant snake thingys. both teams are good but when you have people who can shoot optic blats and control metal not a whole your team can do.

@Chaos Burn: Personally, I think Cap's reflexes outmatch Wolverine, and the way he was throwing that shield he'll damn near take off Howlett's head. Plus, with his much greater strength, he should be able to throw Logan around easily. Like Thor does with Jotuns.

Movie Wolverine is not winning one on one with movie Captain America.

Jean Gray Solos 

@The_Roman: you know i'm glad you said that, i was debating whether or not Cap could survive against Logan, but my gut said that the healing factor would mean eventually Wolverine could get him, after all, one slice from the claws and I think Cap would be done (seeing as how one shot from the chituari gun winded him alot).

If you disagree, maybe one of the many X-Men I listed fighting Black Widow, Hawkeye, Fury etc, could instead team up with Wolverine (Sabretooth or Colosuss should be enough)

@Chaos Burn: I think one hit from Cap's shield, a good, clean hit, of course, could KO Wolverine.

Colossus and Wolverine should pummel him though.

@The_Roman: ah yes, the infamous "bullet to the head KO's Logan" from X2 and Origins, I spose a Vibranium shield would do much more, you're certainly right there. I Imagine a cartoonish gong hitting a symbol affect on Wolverine's head.

Amended my list to add Colossus with Wolverine

thor solo's

Movie Avengers would win.

@ssejllenrad said:

Would Thor nullify Storm's control over lightning?

Anyway, I'm picking Avengers. Better feats against bigger threats. This Mags would definitely own Iron Man though.

thor solo's

Movie Avengers would win.

@Relentless: No, no he does not.

@Iamlovewithin500: Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, and Captain America.

@Iamlovewithin500: Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, and Captain America.

@Iamlovewithin500: how does he become brain dead professor x wasn't that powerful a telepath in the films.

Thor had some awesome weather feats, although only w/lightning..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdhmJAx9VTU

and in avengers he zapped loads of chitauri

@Iamlovewithin500: how does he become brain dead professor x wasn't that powerful a telepath in the films.

@Iamlovewithin500: Storm is weak. Iron would come up with a plan for Magneto. Plus they have the destroyer armor to not to mention Loki.

@Iamlovewithin500: show me clips of professor x shutting enemies minds down

@Iamlovewithin500: Storm is weak. Iron would come up with a plan for Magneto. Plus they have the destroyer armor to not to mention Loki.

@Iamlovewithin500: show me clips of professor x shutting enemies minds down

and he almost killed everyone on Earth with the help of Cerebro. 
 
Without it, I'm sure he can take just a team of  6  out. 
especially with combined effort of other Physics 
 
I'm so tired of Avengers fanboys...

@Iamlovewithin500: Storm is weak in the movie versions. No she did not have better feats than Thor so you try again. I wasn't talking about prep I was talking about doing the battle. Phoenix got stab by wolverine who healing factor isn't no where near the hulk and was out by a bullet for a long time. Charles can not solo. He couldn't even beat his own son.

@Iamlovewithin500: Would you stop linking that x2 bullshit, prof X is the first class version.

also your forgetting about how loki is here you know "god of deception" he could easily zap his way round and just punch prof x on the back of the head(OR zap around and MC somebody like storm with his staff then blow them all away with tornadoes),same for jean just knock her out or distract her long enough for an avenger to come by and knock her out. Loki is a key factor here.

X-men fanboys :/

@TheAcidSkull: Not a stomp but yeah they win.

@Iamlovewithin500: Storm is weak in the movie versions. No she did not have better feats than Thor so you try again. I wasn't talking about prep I was talking about doing the battle. Phoenix got stab by wolverine who healing factor isn't no where near the hulk and was out by a bullet for a long time. Charles can not solo. He couldn't even beat his own son.

@Iamlovewithin500: Would you stop linking that x2 bullshit, prof X is the first class version.

also your forgetting about how loki is here you know "god of deception" he could easily zap his way round and just punch prof x on the back of the head(OR zap around and MC somebody like storm with his staff then blow them all away with tornadoes),same for jean just knock her out or distract her long enough for an avenger to come by and knock her out. Loki is a key factor here.

X-men fanboys :/

@Iamlovewithin500: Im not a thor fanboy...Nor am i biased. i didn't say zap the xmen i said zap around..Like move around quickly and make clones of himself he would be able to get close easily. Im not saying this would be an easy fight just avengers would win and stop just brushing me off at the 1st sight off fault just because i read the OP wrong and your read my paragraph wrong.

i think x men have this one.i mean they put 2 huge jets next to mags. the avengers have 2 metal men and caps shield is metal. nick fury's gun's are metal same as widows and hawkeyes bow.jean lifted saber tooth with TK in x1 and threw him in the museum so she xould lift most people easily. red skull siff nd hogan wont be a problem. so this is really Xmen of all eras vs thor and hulk with loki

so xmen stomp

@Iamlovewithin500: She is weak. What have she done that impress someone? She barely beat the girl with speed. She was one of the weakest link. All X-men movies suck except the last one. Thor will overpower her. She haven't even shown that she is an Omega Level. They had the wrong woman to play her. She did only one thing and that was when they were flying and she struggle with it. Thor has more and is consistent to the character and storm is not. Thor likes to slug it out. That 100 hundred tornadoes she did did she every do that in the comics? Thor has more power that he hasn't even shown use yet. He can throw his hammer at her and Knock her Out end of story. Thor is demigod so how is she winning again.

"Wolverine has a better healing factor than Hulk because he regenerates instantly and he loses more muscle tissue and flesh and has taken greater damage than Hulk.The only reason Hulk would have a slight chance against Phoenix is because of his durability, not his healing factor. She would atomize him. healing and durability are two separate things. I don't have time to go back and fourth with an Avengers Fanboy. You clearly have never watched the X-men movies. Who the f*ck is Professor X son ??? <<< That's how I know you don't know what the hell you're talking about"

Wolverine healing factor is not better than Hulk. It doesn't regenerates instantly go watch the movie again you don't know what you are talking about. He got shot in the head Twice and took along time to recover from it so it is not instantly. Deadpool has shown better healing factor than wolverine. Hulk has both Healing and durability to deal with phoenix. He took on two demigods and came out fine. First all I'm not a Avengers Fanboy just honest down the middle. So learn who is a fanboy on here before you call someone a fanboy since you new here. So don't send that Fanboy stuff over here. It is obvious your a X-men Fanboy. Plus The Avengers Movie is way better than all the X-men movies. You don't know what movies I watch your not over here with me. So don't assume you know what I do because you don't. Calm down that wasn't Profess X son that was William Strike son I got the two mix up.

"You said Stark could come up with something for Magneto,but how can he do that if he doesn't have prep.Magneto would crush him In a random encounter.Don't let the AvX PIS get to you...".

I said come up with a plan doing the Battle not prep. You have the two mix up. Pay attention to the details. Stark doesn't brawl he plans before he battles (prep) and doing battles. He is a thinker so he would be thinking doing the fight otherwise he useless.

"Goodbye

I'm done I proved my point countless times.

All I can say to you is go to blockbuster or find the X-franchise movies on the net for free and watch it,then come at me with a logical assessment,until then your'e very very biased."

Prove what? You prove to be a storm Fanboy. All I can say to you is I don't have go find nothing. I have them on DVD Thank you very much.

People really should read the rules of the battle before speaking anything, the result is Lots of Avengers fan-boys that can't make a valid argument.

She is weak. What have she done that impress someone? She barely beat the girl with speed. She was one of the weakest link. All X-men movies suck except the last one. Thor will over power her. She haven't even shown that she is an Omega Level. They had the wrong woman to play her. She did only one thing and that was when they were flying and she struggle with it. Thor has more and is consistent to the character and storm is not. Thor likes to slug it out. That 100 hundred tornadoes did she every do that in the comics? Thor has more power that he hasn't even use yet. He can throw his hammer at her and KO her end of story. Thor is demigod so how is she winning again

Wolverine healing factor is not better than Hulk. 

He got shot in the head Twice and took along time to recover from if so it is not instantly. 

he took on two demigods and came out fine. First all I'm not a Avengers Fanboy just honest down the middle. So learn who is a fanboy on here before you call someone a fanboy since you new here.  

It is obvious your a X-men Fanboy 

Plus The Avengers Movie is way better than all the X-men movies. 

I said come up with a plan doing the Battle not prep. You have the two mix up. Pay attention to the details. Stark doesn't brawl he plans before he battles (prep) and doing battles. He a thinker so he would be thinking doing the fight otherwise he useless.

Prove what? You prove to be a storm Fanboy. All I can say you is I don't have go find nothing. I have them on DVD Thank you very much. 

@UltraBiel

People really should read the rules of the battle before speaking anything, the result is Lots of Avengers fan-boys that can't make a valid argument.

I still think the combined effort of Emma, Charles and Jean could brain kill Thor and/or Hulk

X-men Wins...

you guys really have to stop using that wolvie shot in the head and ko thing in x2. he wasent fighting and his adrenalin wasn't pumping to let him tank that shot.he got shot hundreds of times nd u guys pick the least consistent event

@Iamlovewithin500: Wow nice to see you didnt reply to my most recent post to you. No debate for it or are you thinking your on a higher level to me?

The X-Men.

Movie X-men win this Hawkeye,Black Widow,And Fury can be put under control by the threes telepaths Jean,Emma,Proffeser. Nightcrawler could just BFR the rest.

@Iamlovewithin500:

lol movie Thor probably wouldn't be able to tag Callisto either,she's a speedster.Even his reflexes weren't shown to be that fast.Try again. just like your horrible debating skills dude. Thor may have more power,but fact still stands Storm has shown more of her weather abilities in the movies...lol how many times do I have to stress that. Look it up DBZ boy.

Your vocation may be correct, but it doesn't justify the amount of insults you just threw at the guy. Debates can't afford to be forgiving once errors creep up, or we merely postpone fortright solutions to brewing problems. Debating if we can even call it that in your manner is just luling complacency.

which had nothing to do with the debate.

I'll be superfluous here and add on to this, insulting other users is in no way liaison to the topic being discussed at hand.

Yes it is.He has better healing feats. Hulk barely had any healing feats because his durability was so strong that he was never pierced, cut, sliced or bruised.His shell is thick as hell.He's very hard to damage.You didn't really seem regenerating like Logan did.So until then..yeah Logan's better.

While I do agree that the movie Wolverine possesses better healing feats than 2008/Avenger's Hulk, you are wrong on Hulk's durability. He's been pierced and cut before.