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#1 Posted by ironshadow (1470 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Man

Hulk

Thor

Captain America

Black Widow

Hawkeye

Nick Fury

Maria Hill

VS

Hancock

King Kong from King Kong 2005 movie.

T-1000

T-X

David Rice from Jumper

Wolf Predator from Aliens vs Predator Requiem

#2 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

Let's be realistic here, would Hulk and Thor really have any trouble with any of these guys?

#3 Posted by New_World_Order (13290 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW: Hancock.

#4 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@FiMFTW: Hancock.

Amazing, a one word reply; what a convincing argument(!)

#5 Posted by New_World_Order (13290 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW said:

@ThunderGodsWrath said:

@FiMFTW: Hancock.

Amazing, a one word reply; what a convincing argument(!)

Lol

#6 Posted by Strman123 (193 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW: King Kong. All the Avengers would be killed in the fight other than Hulk and Thor.

#7 Posted by JediXMan (30949 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strman123 said:

@FiMFTW: King Kong. All the Avengers would be killed in the fight other than Hulk and Thor.

Iron Man should take him down rather easily.

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#8 Posted by Strman123 (193 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan: or Kong smashes him into the ground and crushes his bones :D

#9 Posted by theONEtaichou (1554 posts) - - Show Bio

6 members of the Avengers would be slaughtered by the T-X leaving only Thor and Hulk to fight the rest. Hancock can take Thor, Kong + Rice fight and bfr Hulk... Team wins

#10 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strman123 said:

@FiMFTW: King Kong

Was killed by 1930s weaponry.

It's pretty easy to say he gets one shotted by Iron Man's tank missle.

#11 Posted by Shawnbaby (10867 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh Look. Hancock is getting Overrated again. Shocker.

#12 Posted by Xanni15 (6758 posts) - - Show Bio

Hancock's going to be the big problem, and I don't really see hulk or Thor being able to put him down.

#13 Posted by JediXMan (30949 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strman123 said:

@JediXMan: or Kong smashes him into the ground and crushes his bones :D

Tony fights at long range, not close range. All he has to do is fly around and shoot him... like something else. What was it again?

Oh right: 1933 biplanes.

Kong doesn't stand a chance. I'd even wager that Hawkeye with sufficient distance would kill King Kong with a well-placed explosive arrow.

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#14 Posted by pooty (11379 posts) - - Show Bio

this is iron man, hulk, thor vs hancock, TX. i don't think Hulk can beat TX but TX can't beat him either. Thor nor IM have shown anything that is guaranteed to put Hancock down or even hurt him. but hancock has shown nothing that can guaranteed put them down. Still Thor or IM can beat IM. but Hancock would still be around. Stalemate.

#15 Posted by Shawnbaby (10867 posts) - - Show Bio

Hanock has no feats on the Level of Thor and Hulk. Both have shown better Strength, Durability, and Striking Power feats. I have no idea why people constantly overrate what they saw in the Hancock movie. Based on actual Feats...The Avengers win.

#16 Posted by Pokeysteve (8421 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

Hanock has no feats on the Level of Thor and Hulk. Both have shown better Strength, Durability, and Striking Power feats. I have no idea why people constantly overrate what they saw in the Hancock movie. Based on actual Feats...The Avengers win.

Until they brought the wife in, Hancock was never hurt (tmk). Thor was worried about surviving a fall. Based on feats, Hancock can't be hurt by anyone here.

#17 Posted by Shawnbaby (10867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve said:

@Shawnbaby said:

Hanock has no feats on the Level of Thor and Hulk. Both have shown better Strength, Durability, and Striking Power feats. I have no idea why people constantly overrate what they saw in the Hancock movie. Based on actual Feats...The Avengers win.

Until they brought the wife in, Hancock was never hurt (tmk). Thor was worried about surviving a fall. Based on feats, Hancock can't be hurt by anyone here.

A Fall from Over 30,000 Feet...from which Thor emerged entirely unharmed. Hancock's greatest Feat is Stopping a Train. Hulk One-Shotting the Space Whale easily eclipses that.

#18 Posted by Strman123 (193 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan: My bad I was thinking of Godzilla. I always seem to get the two mixed up

#19 Posted by Pokeysteve (8421 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

@Pokeysteve said:

@Shawnbaby said:

Hanock has no feats on the Level of Thor and Hulk. Both have shown better Strength, Durability, and Striking Power feats. I have no idea why people constantly overrate what they saw in the Hancock movie. Based on actual Feats...The Avengers win.

Until they brought the wife in, Hancock was never hurt (tmk). Thor was worried about surviving a fall. Based on feats, Hancock can't be hurt by anyone here.

A Fall from Over 30,000 Feet...from which Thor emerged entirely unharmed. Hancock's greatest Feat is Stopping a Train. Hulk One-Shotting the Space Whale easily eclipses that.

Thor still scrambled frantically to escape the box meaning he thought it could hurt him. His hammer helped him with the fall. Hulk was dazed by a shot from Thor. You listed their strength feats. From the information we got from Hancock, as long as he has distance from his wife he is completely invulnerable. At best this would be a stalemate with neither team being able to put down the other.

#20 Posted by Dark Cloud™ (2177 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve said:

@Shawnbaby said:

Hanock has no feats on the Level of Thor and Hulk. Both have shown better Strength, Durability, and Striking Power feats. I have no idea why people constantly overrate what they saw in the Hancock movie. Based on actual Feats...The Avengers win.

Until they brought the wife in, Hancock was never hurt (tmk). Thor was worried about surviving a fall. Based on feats, Hancock can't be hurt by anyone here.

@Pokeysteve said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@Pokeysteve said:

@Shawnbaby said:

Hanock has no feats on the Level of Thor and Hulk. Both have shown better Strength, Durability, and Striking Power feats. I have no idea why people constantly overrate what they saw in the Hancock movie. Based on actual Feats...The Avengers win.

Until they brought the wife in, Hancock was never hurt (tmk). Thor was worried about surviving a fall. Based on feats, Hancock can't be hurt by anyone here.

A Fall from Over 30,000 Feet...from which Thor emerged entirely unharmed. Hancock's greatest Feat is Stopping a Train. Hulk One-Shotting the Space Whale easily eclipses that.

Thor still scrambled frantically to escape the box meaning he thought it could hurt him. His hammer helped him with the fall. Hulk was dazed by a shot from Thor. You listed their strength feats. From the information we got from Hancock, as long as he has distance from his wife he is completely invulnerable. At best this would be a stalemate with neither team being able to put down the other.

Thor wasn't scrambling frantically to escape. He had no balance and was being tossed about by the cylindrical case itself. He then braced himself against the window and propelled himself out. But because of the distance the case and the ground, he crashed rather than landed properly. Thor's strength was also on par or greater than HULK, of course his hits would faze the jolly green giant. But I agree with the rest of what you said.

#21 Posted by SoA (4938 posts) - - Show Bio

avengers

captain america would take jumper

thor against hancock

iron man blasts the terminators away (after sending a missle at the predator )

hulk takes on kong

#22 Posted by UltraSuperTrooper (676 posts) - - Show Bio

@FiMFTW said:

Let's be realistic here, would Hulk and Thor really have any trouble with any of these guys?

#23 Posted by Shawnbaby (10867 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pokeysteve said:

@Shawnbaby said:

Hanock has no feats on the Level of Thor and Hulk. Both have shown better Strength, Durability, and Striking Power feats. I have no idea why people constantly overrate what they saw in the Hancock movie. Based on actual Feats...The Avengers win.

Until they brought the wife in, Hancock was never hurt (tmk). Thor was worried about surviving a fall. Based on feats, Hancock can't be hurt by anyone here.

Based on feats Hancock has never been hit by anything as Powerful as what Thor and Hulk can do to him so one can't really say they can't hurt him. Hulk and Thor However were able to take blows from each other with Neither one of them sustaining injury. Based on Feats...They have Higher Strength and Durability than Hancock. Either one of them could pin him...Which takes him out of the fight...which means the Avengers would win.

#24 Posted by Spidermanfan1461 (79 posts) - - Show Bio

thor lost to iron man, iron man was almost killed by whiplash, hulk is the only problem

#25 Posted by mhanuroth (208 posts) - - Show Bio
#26 Posted by Spidermanfan1461 (79 posts) - - Show Bio

he would jif captaun america didnt save him

#27 Edited by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

Hancock is what separates a win for his team and a loss for his team (3) reasons!

(1) Hancock was shoved into by a train which can very from 150 tons to 32,000 tons. Plus the train was traveling so it had more force going, making his durability many times any of the avengers durability feats combined!

(2) Hancock took a trip from the Sun and only his cloths were burned up badly so , Ironman's lazer or Thor's lightning will not do much damage.

(3) Hancock's only real weakness is his Goddess wife from the movie, without her here, this is a bad match up for the Avengers.

#28 Posted by argusx (94 posts) - - Show Bio

Hancock solos as he is way above them in power.

#29 Edited by rolldestroyer (3508 posts) - - Show Bio

thor, hulk and iron man could take on hancock, the rest wouldn't be much of a problem

#30 Posted by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

I have a final analysis for this debate why Hancock solos and this should be locked, be back in a few minutes.

#31 Edited by mhanuroth (208 posts) - - Show Bio

@spidermanfan1461: nope cap save ironman thor destroy his armor with his bare hands

#32 Edited by Jorgevy (5114 posts) - - Show Bio

Hancock was intoxicated by alcohol in the movie so he can be internally damaged or poisoned, so he is not fully invulnerable

either way, Hancock IMO is the only trouble here. Iron Man could hack or kick the Terminator, Hulk could do some hard damage, Hawkeye from a distance with an explosive or acid arrow can take down Kong, Cap and Widow could tag the Jumper and if Widow hits him with an eletric blast from her widow bites he is down for the count (Jumpers can't teleport for a few secs after being shocked)

I'd say the Avengers win, but it's gonna take some time to take down Hancock, Tony will have to think fast of a way to intoxicate him

#33 Posted by KingofComix (211 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh Look. Hancock is getting Overrated again. Shocker.

Movie thor was not impressive at all. Hancock would beat him. and Most everyone else on avengers side. King Kong is a non factor with iron man here considering his technology is much more advanced and leagues more deadly than what the 1930's had.

#34 Posted by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

Final analysis:

(1) STRENGTH: Hancock threw a humpback whale (50 tons) over 1,000 ft = 219 tons of force to do that!

(2) DURABILITY: Hancock hit by a train, although the total number of cars it had, I counted 22 cars from my perspective. The locomotive on it's own weighs 95 tons, the cars, if all are loaded can weigh up to 200 tons, 22x200 = 4,400 tons + 95 = 4,495 Tons, but the locomotive was running too. The average Train without passengers drives at speeds of 15 mph in city limits. Ok, 15 mph = 6.7 m/s. by Force equation mass x acceleration = force. (27,321,226.5N = 3,071 tons)

(3) Speed/Reaction

- Hancock has dodge rocket launchers

- 257 MPH

- Running speed is questionable

- Flight speed, also questionable but he is definetly near sonic speed or Mach 5.

Avengers side:

Hulk

(1) Strength: Hulk one-shots whale, the actual weight of the whale is not given, only way to make a legit case is to go by the heaviest whale and it's speed.

- Blue Whale = 200 tons

- speed: 23 mph (top)

181,436.9 kg x 10.2 m/s

= 1,850,656.38N = 209 tons of force (1-arm)

Both arms = 418 tons

(2) Durability: Hulk can't one shot himself so at the very least he is 210 tons of durability and that is not near his maximum intake, but he has proven weak when tag teamed by Chitauri men blasting him.

(3) Speed: Hard to calculate, comic book version gives him 300 mph but movie version is much slower.

Thor

(1) Strength: Thor can hold up Hulk's hand with both arms as. As stated earlier Hulk can apply up to 209 tons with 1-arm. Making it Thor's maximum strength limit

(2) Durability: Hulk punched Thor in the face and made Thor bleed, as stated earlier Hulk can apply up to 209 tons in 1-arm. Making it Thor's maximum potential.

(3) Speed: Unknown

Ironman

(1) Strength: Almost unknown, comic book Ironman is class 100 tons which would make sense because Thor suffered no physical injury from his punches.

(2) Thor squeezed Ironman's suit and punched it which made a small dent in it.

As stated earlier Thor's maximum output is about 209 tons. So Ironman can withstand up to 209 tons

(3) Speed: He's calls of flying up to Mach 6 while flying at top speed but lacks a lot of running speed.

Results:

Hancock

Strength: 219 tons (maximum)

Durability: 3,071 tons (not-maximum)

Speed: 275 mph , flight Mach 5 (maximum)

Avengers:

Hulk

Strength: 418 tons (maximum)

Durability: 210 tons (not maximum)

Speed: questionable!

Thor

Strength: 209 tons (maximum)

Durability: 209 tons (near-maximum)

Speed: ???

Ironman

Strength: 100 tons

Durability: 209 tons

Speed: Mach 6 flight speed

Comment: Overall, The Avengers are not strong enough to hurt Hancock and Hancock can one-shot pretty much the whole team minus the Hulk. This is a spite match for team 2 because other beings such as T-X and King Kong can kill of 3 of the members by themselves.

#35 Posted by xlab3000 (3322 posts) - - Show Bio

Movie Avengers

#36 Posted by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

Avengers die badly, Avengers guys have to give good proof for their claim. If Not

/Thread!

#37 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (18816 posts) - - Show Bio

@mirrorwave4: You're inhuman... *takes off hat in respect*

#38 Edited by russellmania77 (15674 posts) - - Show Bio

the scene from the avengers movie where bruce banner says ''im always angry'' and punches that giant thing down, same for king kong and the rest

#39 Posted by Shawnbaby (10867 posts) - - Show Bio

@mirrorwave4:I've already debunked all this in the other thread you made but I'll give the summed up version here

The Average weight for a Humpback whale is 40 tons...not 50. So that whole calculation is wrong.

Dodging rockets does not mean hancock moves at 257 MPH...you don't have to move as fast as an object traveling towards you to dodge it.

The Leviathan is not a Blue Whale...and it was also covered entirely in armor. The max speed of a Blue whale also is immaterial since that speed is traveled through water ...not air. So that calculation is useless as well.

All of the other calculations are based on the Calculation for Hulk's Strength...which is wrong...so those get thrown out the window too.

Also, when i confronted him about the weight of the Humpback whale he admitted he was basing it on the Heaviest known Humpback. The Cnversation went as follows

@mirrorwave4 said:

@shawnbaby: The Heaviest weighed 50 tons.

But that wasn't the heaviest humpback...so its better to use average weight instead of max weight...unless you are trying to fudge the numbers to make Hancock appear stronger...

@shawnbaby: Might as well since he's fighting a team.

So basically, he deliberately used misleading data to try and prove his theory that Hancock solo's the Avengers.

#40 Edited by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

By the way my calculation for Hancock's train feat was flawed a bit, it's actually 3,528 tons of force, but still that was with total ease.

- Also interesting fact Modern Locomotives in the US are made of steel, which is 8.03 g/cm3 and Iron is 7.75 g/cm3. So Ironman still gets one-shotted here! Same goes for nearly the whole Avengers!

Oh yeah @Shawnbaby it wasn't a Humpback whale but a grey whale which is 40 tons.

/thread!

#41 Edited by Shawnbaby (10867 posts) - - Show Bio

@mirrorwave4 said:

By the way my calculation for Hancock's train feat was flawed a bit, it's actually 3,528 tons of force, but still that was with total ease.

- Also interesting fact Modern Locomotives in the US are made of steel, which is 8.03 g/cm3 and Iron is 7.75 g/cm3. So Ironman still gets one-shotted here! Same goes for nearly the whole Avengers!

Oh yeah @Shawnbaby it wasn't a Humpback whale but a grey whale which is 40 tons.

/thread!

whether its a humpback whale or a Grey whale...40 tons is 40 tons. not 50.

#42 Edited by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby

Well still, I proved Ironman, Captain America, Hawk eye, Black Widow, and Nick Furry get one-Shotted at the same time leaving Thor and Hulk.

#43 Edited by Shawnbaby (10867 posts) - - Show Bio

@mirrorwave4 said:

@Shawnbaby

Well still, I proved Ironman, Captain America, Hawk eye, Black Widow, and Nick Furry get one-Shotted at the same time leaving Thor and Hulk.

The train is a durability feat...not striking power. Doesn't prove anything against Iron Man...and Id sort of expect Hancock to be able to take down 3 regular humans and 1 enhanced human.

#44 Edited by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh yeah interesting fact, when Banner and Tony were talking about the Tesseract, it had to be heated up to 700 Kelvin for it to work which is 800 •F. The point is none of the characters in the movie were able to go unharmed by such an impact but Hancock can because the sun is more than

10,000 •F. So Hancock solos by BFR ;)

#45 Posted by izbighulk (640 posts) - - Show Bio

Hancock wins

#46 Edited by MirrorWave4 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok, since no one is debating any more the final result is Hancock solos The Avengers by Blitz, One-shooting, and BFR

Case close!

#47 Posted by Oscars94 (2582 posts) - - Show Bio
#48 Edited by MonsterStomp (19298 posts) - - Show Bio

Hancock would be the MVP of this battle.

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#49 Posted by ICameToPlay (5 posts) - - Show Bio

Movie Avengers.

#50 Posted by Sideslash (5907 posts) - - Show Bio

Hancock is what separates a win for his team and a loss for his team (3) reasons!

(1) Hancock was shoved into by a train which can very from 150 tons to 32,000 tons. Plus the train was traveling so it had more force going, making his durability many times any of the avengers durability feats combined!

Not really. Hulk's fall from 30,000 feet or stopping that space whale with a punch or tanking shots from Thor, including an uppercut from Mjolnir possibly eclipses getting hit by a train.

(2) Hancock took a trip from the Sun and only his cloths were burned up badly so , Ironman's lazer or Thor's lightning will not do much damage.

Nope. If you'd watched the film, Hancock's clothes were burned from an apartment fire. He himself states that much.