movie Avengers runs the movie gauntlet

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#1 Posted by Greendevil (1873 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Avengers barely got time catch their breath as SHIELD calls them and demands help!

  • NO BFR unless lethal
  • Win by KO/ Death
  • Standard gear for everybody
  • Location Manhattan.
  • Only movie feats
  • Avengers are fully rested in between rounds

ROUND-1

PREDATORS

  • 10 ELDER HUNTERS
  • 40 YOUNG HUNTERS
  • 50 PRED-DOGS

ROUND-2

THE LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN

  • Dr. Henry Jekyll/Edward Hyde
  • Dorian Gray
  • Kapten Nemo
  • Allan Quatermain
  • Mina Harker
  • Invisible man
  • cannon fodder

ROUND-3

5 AUTOBOTS

ROUND-4

GODZILLA

ROUND-5

THE BROTHERHOOD

  • Magneto
  • Pheonix
  • Juggernaut
  • Calisto
  • Madrox
  • Pyro
  • x-1?
  • x-2?

ROUND-6

  • Batman
  • Green Lantern
  • Superman

ROUND-7

ANTI-AVENGERS

  • Loki
  • Redskull
  • Destroyer
  • Abomination
  • Whiplash
  • Ironmonger
  • 20 frost giants
  • 1 frost beast

ROUND-8

  • Sauruman
  • 9 Nazgul
  • 2000 Uruk Hai
  • 500 Berserker Uruks
  • 100 War-Trolls
  • 20 Mumakill with (20 easterling archers on each)
  • 200 Warg-riders
  • 1 Balrog (summoned by Sauron 15 min after battle starts)

How far does team 1 get?

#2 Posted by HolySerpent (11728 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Stops at round 6 . Regardless off crappy film. I believe Hal can take the majority of the avengers. And have superman take on the hulk

#3 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@HolySerpent said:

Stops at round 6 . Regardless off crappy film. I believe Hal can take the majority of the avengers. And have superman take on the hulk

Movie Hulk would beat Movie Superman. Hal wasn't even that strong. Thor or Iron Man would take him or they double team him and stomp him, while Black Widow, Hawkeye & Captain America stomp Batman.

#4 Posted by Misterkyle91 (62 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Brotherhood stops them. Jean makes them disappear.

#5 Edited by spekqj (566 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

I believe they're going to stop at round 5. Magneto had no problem at levitating the Golden Gate Bridge, which weights about 900,000 tons. No Avengers from the movie has accomplished this kind of feats, yet...

#6 Posted by KainScion (2975 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@HolySerpent: here we go again. the unstoppable power ring. and yes we are regarding the crappy movies, so avengers all the way. round six is a joke: gl blows, bats couldnt do anything (yes he is a shitty fighter with a horrible voice gimmick) only supes can give them some trouble.

#7 Posted by HolySerpent (11728 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Hulk is not touching a man who moves near light speed....I'm not going to argue.

#8 Posted by cattlebattle (11100 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

They're not beating the Brotherhood.....Iron Man would get turned into Magnetos personal weapon, Phoenix would rip apart their heavy hitters, Pyro, Callisto, Juggernaut and Multiple Man annihilate their street levelers
 
If they do manage to squeeze by they are not going to beat Superman...dude lifted a continent of his weakness. That is a feat of feats in my opinion

#9 Posted by Immortal777 (3266 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Stop at 6

No one should be able to tag Superman he is also the strongest here.Gl could scoop them up and throw them to the sun. Batman is the goddamn Batman nuff said.

#10 Posted by Docnick (10454 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Stops at the Anti- Avengers. I'm more than confident that they take out everyone else though.

#11 Edited by Moonchilde (1368 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Pyro had no durability, and wasn't particularly clever, he takes an arrow to the head. Juggernaut wasn't very impressive, far from the unstoppable beast he is in the comics. He couldn't even KO Wolverine (who did get KO'd by Sabretooth, Magneto, and a bullet from a random cop), he gets utterly curbstomped by Hulk. Mulitple Man gets destroyed by Cap. Seriously, what's he do, make 30 copies of himself to fight them? Cause Cap isn't use to fighting 30+ guys that are better armed and better trained then Multiple Man? Actually, Black Widow takes him out. Callisto was quick, and might be hard to tag, but she wasn't particularly strong, she might be to much for Widow or Hawkeye, but Cap could tank her and eventually tag/beat her.

Magneto seemed to be limited to just manipulating metals, and again no real speed or durability. Mags vs. Iron Man would come down to who's quicker on the draw, and Iron Man seemed to be a lot faster so I'd give him the advantage. Phoenix would be the only real threat from the Brotherhood, but I think Hulk or Thor not holding back still take her down. They both have the durability high enough to get close enough to tag her, and they really only have to tag her once (Thor doesn't even have to get that close).

Superman, howevver, did have time-travel. Plus strength and speed feats greater then any of them (including Hulk and Thor). They would take Bats and Lantern, but unless they get some kryptonite, they aren't taking Supes.

#12 Edited by notquitevarsity (157 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Did Supes have any speed feats in his movie?

I think the avengers could potentially win this. They would have to play rounds 5 and 6 smart though. They already beat everyone in round 7, and round 8 shouldn't be too much of a problem.

I don't think Jean would be able to dissolve mjolnir flying at her at high speeds. And movie Magneto isn't nearly as durable as his comic counterpart.

Supes is strong, but I think Hulk and Thor could take him out. Batman wouldn't be a problem for any of them. And while Hal did technically beat parallax, he used outside help (the sun). The avengers wouldn't follow him to space.

#13 Posted by cattlebattle (11100 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio
@Moonchilde said:

Pyro had no durability, and wasn't particularly clever, he takes an arrow to the head. Juggernaut wasn't very impressive, far from the unstoppable beast he is in the comics. He couldn't even KO Wolverine (who did get KO'd by Sabretooth, Magneto, and a bullet from a random cop), he gets utterly curbstomped by Hulk. Mulitple Man gets destroyed by Cap. Seriously, what's he do, make 30 copies of himself to fight them? Cause Cap isn't use to fighting 30+ guys that are better armed and better trained then Multiple Man? Actually, Black Widow takes him out. Callisto was quick, and might be hard to tag, but she wasn't particularly strong, she might be to much for Widow or Hawkeye, but Cap could tank her and eventually tag/beat her.

Magneto seemed to be limited to just manipulating metals, and again no real speed or durability. Mags vs. Iron Man would come down to who's quicker on the draw, and Iron Man seemed to be a lot faster so I'd give him the advantage. Phoenix would be the only real threat from the Brotherhood, but I think Hulk or Thor not holding back still take her down. They both have the durability high enough to get close enough to tag her, and they really only have to tag her once (Thor doesn't even have to get that close).

Superman, howevver, did have time-travel. Plus strength and speed feats greater then any of them (including Hulk and Thor). They would take Bats and Lantern, but unless they get some kryptonite, they aren't taking Supes.

you completely downplayed the Brotherhood to prove your point.......
#14 Posted by Blacklightning13 (909 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

I have to say that these are out of order. They stop at round 5. Without round 5 they stop at round 7.

#15 Posted by lantian1 (129 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

They said Superman was moving near lightspeed around the planet

As for strength he lifts an entire continent of kryptonite after being stabbed by kryptonite

I doubt Hulk could even phase him and he's too fast for lightning

#16 Posted by BMEZY (1156 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Secretly...I think the Phoenix made herself vulnerable and open for attack so that Wolverine could kill her..She was doing some craZy ish at the end of X Men 3

#17 Posted by Moonchilde (1368 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@cattlebattle said:

@Moonchilde said:

Pyro had no durability, and wasn't particularly clever, he takes an arrow to the head. Juggernaut wasn't very impressive, far from the unstoppable beast he is in the comics. He couldn't even KO Wolverine (who did get KO'd by Sabretooth, Magneto, and a bullet from a random cop), he gets utterly curbstomped by Hulk. Mulitple Man gets destroyed by Cap. Seriously, what's he do, make 30 copies of himself to fight them? Cause Cap isn't use to fighting 30+ guys that are better armed and better trained then Multiple Man? Actually, Black Widow takes him out. Callisto was quick, and might be hard to tag, but she wasn't particularly strong, she might be to much for Widow or Hawkeye, but Cap could tank her and eventually tag/beat her.

Magneto seemed to be limited to just manipulating metals, and again no real speed or durability. Mags vs. Iron Man would come down to who's quicker on the draw, and Iron Man seemed to be a lot faster so I'd give him the advantage. Phoenix would be the only real threat from the Brotherhood, but I think Hulk or Thor not holding back still take her down. They both have the durability high enough to get close enough to tag her, and they really only have to tag her once (Thor doesn't even have to get that close).

Superman, howevver, did have time-travel. Plus strength and speed feats greater then any of them (including Hulk and Thor). They would take Bats and Lantern, but unless they get some kryptonite, they aren't taking Supes.

you completely downplayed the Brotherhood to prove your point.......

Not really. None of them were very impressive, except Phoenix and Magneto, both of whom were still weaker then their comic book counter-parts. Those two wont be enough to stop the Avengers, all of whom have better feats.

#18 Posted by GothamRed (2378 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Fun Answer:

Hawkeye makes it through the whole gauntlet alone with nothing but a slingshot and an whiffle bat

Actual Anwer:

I'd say at least round 7, since movie thor and hulk together could likely easily over-power movie superman and movie hal and bats don't really seem up to taking the other 4 on their own, even if movie bats prepared, he's not as likely to prevail as comic bats would. They may even make it to round 8 since thor had no issue with destroyer at full power, hulk whipped loki and I'm sure banded together they could beat the other Anti's, their issue would likely just being overwhelmed by the sheer numbers, but I could see them making it though the anti's at least.

#19 Posted by cattlebattle (11100 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio
@Moonchilde said:

@cattlebattle said:


Not really. None of them were very impressive, except Phoenix and Magneto, both of whom were still weaker then their comic book counter-parts. Those two wont be enough to stop the Avengers, all of whom have better feats.

Avengers bias is obvious, the Avengers are also weaker than their counterparts, Phoenix killed hundreds without even thinking about it, she could solos, Magneto could move metal instantaneously, and he is in Manhattan......he has good chance of soloing.
#20 Posted by Deranged Midget (13038 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@Immortal777 said:

Stop at 6

No one should be able to tag Superman he is also the strongest here.Gl could scoop them up and throw them to the sun. Batman is the goddamn Batman nuff said.

Batman from the Nolan films get's murdered here. Hell, Hawkeye and Black Widow can stomp him, they at least displayed decent fighting skills.

But yes, the Avengers don't have much luck against Superman.

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#21 Posted by Moonchilde (1368 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@cattlebattle said:

@Moonchilde said:

@cattlebattle said:

Not really. None of them were very impressive, except Phoenix and Magneto, both of whom were still weaker then their comic book counter-parts. Those two wont be enough to stop the Avengers, all of whom have better feats.

Avengers bias is obvious, the Avengers are also weaker than their counterparts, Phoenix killed hundreds without even thinking about it, she could solos, Magneto could move metal instantaneously, and he is in Manhattan......he has good chance of soloing.

X-Men bias is obvious. Thor fights hundreds of frost giants with little difficulty and shatters the rainbow bridge, he could solo. Hulk one-shots a skrull leviathan like it was a barely even a nuisance, punks Loki, and shrugs off anything thrown at him, he has a good chance of soloing.

Seriously. Thor and Iron Man are faster then everything in any of the X-Men movies. Hulk, Thor, and even Iron Man show more strength and durability then anything in the X-Men movies (even Wolverine). Thor and Iron Man can attack at greater range then anyone in the brotherhood movies display. Phoenix and Magneto are not winning this, and the rest of the brother hood aren't even a threat. Sorry if you think that's bias, but I suggest you watch both movies. (and all the x-men and marvel movies leading up to them).

#22 Posted by cattlebattle (11100 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio
@Moonchilde said:

@cattlebattle said:

@Moonchilde said:

@cattlebattle said:

Not really. None of them were very impressive, except Phoenix and Magneto, both of whom were still weaker then their comic book counter-parts. Those two wont be enough to stop the Avengers, all of whom have better feats.

Avengers bias is obvious, the Avengers are also weaker than their counterparts, Phoenix killed hundreds without even thinking about it, she could solos, Magneto could move metal instantaneously, and he is in Manhattan......he has good chance of soloing.

X-Men bias is obvious. Thor fights hundreds of frost giants with little difficulty and shatters the rainbow bridge, he could solo. Hulk one-shots a skrull leviathan like it was a barely even a nuisance, punks Loki, and shrugs off anything thrown at him, he has a good chance of soloing.

Seriously. Thor and Iron Man are faster then everything in any of the X-Men movies. Hulk, Thor, and even Iron Man show more strength and durability then anything in the X-Men movies (even Wolverine). Thor and Iron Man can attack at greater range then anyone in the brotherhood movies display. Phoenix and Magneto are not winning this, and the rest of the brother hood aren't even a threat. Sorry if you think that's bias, but I suggest you watch both movies. (and all the x-men and marvel movies leading up to them).

It doesn't matter who is flying faster than what now, and how much alien ships Thor and Hulk smashed up....If Phoenix is disintegrating people without even paying attention...The Avengers don't stand much of a chance.
#23 Posted by Moonchilde (1368 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@cattlebattle: Except how does she deflect a unibeam to the face, or a lightning blast, or a flying hammer? And no, she's not disintegrating mjornir. All of these things could take her down, can be launched at great range, and with greater speed then she can react. It's also highly questionable she disintegrates Hulk or Thor, both of whom are hinted at being immortal, and seem to have the durability feats in the movie to back that up. Even if she could, she's not doing it as quickly as she does Xavier, Cyclops, or random human #18, and they only have to tag her once.

#24 Posted by cattlebattle (11100 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio
@Moonchilde said:

@cattlebattle: Except how does she deflect a unibeam to the face, or a lightning blast, or a flying hammer? And no, she's not disintegrating mjornir. All of these things could take her down, can be launched at great range, and with greater speed then she can react. It's also highly questionable she disintegrates Hulk or Thor, both of whom are hinted at being immortal, and seem to have the durability feats in the movie to back that up. Even if she could, she's not doing it as quickly as she does Xavier, Cyclops, or random human #18, and they only have to tag her once.

At the end of the film she destroyed the whole island of Alcatraz, people and all....instantly. Thought is faster than the time it would take for Iron Man to even lift his hand. Magneto factors in as he has the island of Manhattan at his disposal, not to mention Caps Shield and Iron Mans whole costume.  Its evident in the first X-Men film when he forms a bridge out of no where instantaneously that he can use his powers with a thought as well. It won't be easy for the Avengers
#25 Posted by YoggSaron (812 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

They're not beating movie Superman.

#26 Posted by Moonchilde (1368 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@cattlebattle said:

@Moonchilde said:

@cattlebattle: Except how does she deflect a unibeam to the face, or a lightning blast, or a flying hammer? And no, she's not disintegrating mjornir. All of these things could take her down, can be launched at great range, and with greater speed then she can react. It's also highly questionable she disintegrates Hulk or Thor, both of whom are hinted at being immortal, and seem to have the durability feats in the movie to back that up. Even if she could, she's not doing it as quickly as she does Xavier, Cyclops, or random human #18, and they only have to tag her once.

At the end of the film she destroyed the whole island of Alcatraz, people and all....instantly. Thought is faster than the time it would take for Iron Man to even lift his hand. Magneto factors in as he has the island of Manhattan at his disposal, not to mention Caps Shield and Iron Mans whole costume. Its evident in the first X-Men film when he forms a bridge out of no where instantaneously that he can use his powers with a thought as well. It won't be easy for the Avengers

Yes, she does destroy the island of Alcatraz, but she doesn't do so instantly. There was enough time for Storm to lead an evacuation off the island. She does disinitgrate a few nameless characters instantly, but she's again facing people with far greater durability then anyone/thing she's encountered before.

Here's even a clip of some of her better feats in that movie, including the ending Alcatraz scene. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO8sJ1SoUsE. I apologize that I couldn't find one without some over-dramatic music edited over the dialog, but you don't really need the dialog to get what's going on.

Fair enough that it wont be easy, but Hulk and Thor should be able to resist her long enough to tag her, and the Avengers still win in the end.

#27 Edited by kcaz (1356 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

stops at round 5, dark phoenix create an impenetrable disintegration field, while magneto turns ironman, cap's shield and thor's hammar against the avengers. only problem for them is hulk, and dark phoenix could easily fry his and everyone's brains

#28 Posted by kcaz (1356 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

superman throws his S sign, which is a minor inconvenience.to them, but could slow them down

#29 Posted by Charmix (11957 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@BMEZY said:

Secretly...I think the Phoenix made herself vulnerable and open for attack so that Wolverine could kill her..She was doing some craZy ish at the end of X Men 3

I second this, she allowed herself to die.... claws in.

#30 Posted by EpitomeofCool (2779 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

phoenix stops them....

#31 Posted by SexualLobster (993 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Superman had to put many layers of earth between himself and the landmass to lift it initially. And it was far fro the size of a continent, more like a small city.

I think they make it to round 5 ithout any problems. But Thor could just lightning the shit out of the brotherhood and take them out, I don't think any of them would survive it. If not Ironman could blast them.

Or Hulk and Thor take out magneto quickly. Ironman blasts Jean while Hulk rushes her. Two heavyweights down. The rest hulk could solo.

Now, round 6.. Hal showed pretty awful durability feats, I think Hawkeye's arrows could stop him. His movie version was REALLY weak in that sense. Batman is literally a non-factor. Superman I think is the biggest problem in this whole thing, I think the numbers would have him beat, though I could see the argument of him maybe winning.. maybe.

Anti avengers? Hawkeye in support with his explosive arrows could clear the crowd/ distract some of the bigger bad guys. Or the one that melted the alien thingy in half could be used against abomination. Ironman in the sky thinning the heard and defending black widow/hawkeye. Hulk goes after Iron Man's bad guys full tilt. I think one punch could damage them badly like he did to the leviathan thing. Thor Uses his Lightning on them to finish them off.

Now it's Loki, Destroyer, Abomination, and the Frost beast?

Thor- Destroyer. Easy like the movie.

Hulk- Snow beast. Done pretty quickly.

Ironman- Abomination. Not allowing him to get to Hulk or thor.

Cap, Hawkeye, black widow - Loki. Keep him busy long enough for the others to get there.

Lets say now. Loki and Abomination. vs. Ironman, an angered Hulk by now, Thor, and Cap.

Hulk - Loki. Done like the movie.

Everyone else after Abomination.

Avengers win, Iron man and cap probably go down though.

How powerful is Saruman? I'm not sure so I'll exclude him because of my lack of knowledge.

Fun for the hulk.

#32 Edited by steelhound56 (1068 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

They either stop at Superman, or they clear it IMO

They clear with casual ease until Round 5 begins. And to clear a few things up...

I dont really think that Magneto is going to be able to manipulate Mjolnir. Going by movie showings, no one but Thor can wield the hammer. And since Mags doesn't possess reality manipulating/ magic manipuating powers in the movies, I'm saying he wont be able to manipulate it. Eric and Jean are the two biggest threats in the Brotherhood, as Juggs was MASSIVELY underpowered in the movie.

Going by movie showings, Mags may be able to manipulate the metal in Manhattan, but that isnt going to save him from Thor, as Mjolnir is enchanted to be ameanable to Thor alone, and Thor possesses more than enough durability/strength/speed/power to take Mags out.

Hulk could likely take out Jean. If Wolverine possesses enough durability to take Jean out, Hulk easily possesses enough durability to withstand her disintegration field.

Iron Man can take Juggs, while the rest of the Avengers can at least keep the remaining Brotherhood members busy, with Cap being able to take a few of them by himself. Once Thor is done with Mags and Hulk takes out Jean/Phoenix, it quickly becomes a massacre in The Avengers favor.

Batman and Hal are non factors in Round 6. Either Hawkeye or Black Widow could easily take Batman out, as both are easily superior to Nolan's Batman in h2h combat. Iron Man could wipe Hal form the face of the Earth with ease, given Hal had poor durability showings and really wasn't all that powerful in comparison to the movie Iron Man.

Superman is the real problem. But if The Avengers play it smart, they can take him out.

Thor and Hulk are hinted at being immortal by inference in the movie. At worst, both are shown as possessing ridiculous amounts of durability.

Both Thor and Hulk have 100+ ton strength.

Thor was able to crush Iron Man's Mk VI armor with little effort, using only his hands. He delivered a blow (deflected by Cap's shield) that leveled a large amount of forest around him (my best guess would be at least 500m), and was able to break out of a SHIELD chamber designed to hold Hulk once he gained sure footing. He also went toe to toe with Hulk and didn't show any signs of tiring or of physical trauma. He took on The Destroyer armor at full power with casual ease.

Hulk's strength and durability wasn't shown to have an upper limit in the movie, as he tanks fire from a score of gunships without any apparent damage to his person, oneshots a Leviathan, absolutely destroys Loki (an Asgardian with 30 ton strength, and a "Puny God") with no apparent effort, and tanks several strikes from Mjolnir with no ill effects. If we're including the crappy Ang Lee movie, Hulk tanked reentry into Earth's atmosphere as well.

If Hulk and Thor work together effectively, they can likely overpower Supes if working together in tandem. I'm also assuming Supes is vulnerable to magic in this case. If so, Thor's hammer may be able to damage him, and if Hulk gets angry enough, he might be able to overpower Supes on his own. Iron Man and other could provide distractions if need be, but Thor and Hulk are the two that have the best chance of taking on Superman and surviving.

They clear Round 7, as all of them have defeated these enemies before, and Hulk would likely crush Abomination this time around, as his Avengers incarnation is far stronger than his Incredible Hulk one.

Saruman and the Balrog are the only threats in Round 8. The former being an Istari, who is immortal in the astral plane, but his physical shell can be destroyed. The latter being slightly less powerful than Saruman is. That being said, Thor and Hulk could fight Saruman and the Balrog respectively based on movie showings. Cap takes the Nazgul, Widow takes the Uruk Hai beserkers (she has guns) and Hawkeye takes the Mumakill (clench up, Legolas). Iron Man provides assistance where it is needed, and Hulk and Thor move onto the main battle after they are done with their respective opponents.

#33 Posted by Daddy_Cool_Dude (283 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

They will not beat round 6, but they can actually fares round 7 and 8.

#34 Posted by Ferro Vida (33866 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Avengers clear it if they can get past Jean. Which they can. Hulk's healing factor can deal with her psychic blasts, and he's much stronger then Wolverine is. He rips her in half.

#35 Posted by RyuHayabusa (2015 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@HolySerpent said:

Stops at round 6 . Regardless off crappy film. I believe Hal can take the majority of the avengers. And have superman take on the hulk

Movie Hulk would beat Movie Superman. Hal wasn't even that strong. Thor or Iron Man would take him or they double team him and stomp him, while Black Widow, Hawkeye & Captain America stomp Batman.

#36 Posted by Ferro Vida (33866 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio
@cattlebattle said:
@Moonchilde said:

@cattlebattle: Except how does she deflect a unibeam to the face, or a lightning blast, or a flying hammer? And no, she's not disintegrating mjornir. All of these things could take her down, can be launched at great range, and with greater speed then she can react. It's also highly questionable she disintegrates Hulk or Thor, both of whom are hinted at being immortal, and seem to have the durability feats in the movie to back that up. Even if she could, she's not doing it as quickly as she does Xavier, Cyclops, or random human #18, and they only have to tag her once.

At the end of the film she destroyed the whole island of Alcatraz, people and all....instantly. Thought is faster than the time it would take for Iron Man to even lift his hand. Magneto factors in as he has the island of Manhattan at his disposal, not to mention Caps Shield and Iron Mans whole costume.  Its evident in the first X-Men film when he forms a bridge out of no where instantaneously that he can use his powers with a thought as well. It won't be easy for the Avengers
Jean could not destroy Wolverine. Every time she hit him he just healed instantly. Hulk is more durable then Wolverine and has a healing factor. Thor is also more durable then him, and wouldn't even have to get close to hit her. Ironman's suit is made of a titanium-gold alloy. Gold is non-magnetic, and titanium is paramagnetic. Magneto would have to put a lot more effort into manipulating his suit then he would almost anything else.
#37 Posted by Shawnbaby (5868 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

 X-3 Phoenix was nothing all that special really. Her "Disintegration Field" wasn't enough to stop Logan...It won't stop Thor, Iron Man, or Hulk. Magneto would probably be a bigger problem...but he won't stand long against Thor. Hulk Beats Marko down with ease. Madrox would be an annoyance...but not a real threat. The rest aren't even really worth mentioning.
I think the biggest problem here is Superman. He's got the Strength and Durability...but his combat skills are pretty lackluster..Movie Supes pretty much relies exclusively on his durability...Against Hulk and Thor...his durability will be put to the test. I think it would come up short. 
GL and Batman are pretty much non factors.  Hawkeye, Widow and Cap have better feats in the Avengers than Bruce has in any Batman movie ever. 
Iron Man can easily handle Hal... he just isn't that impressive in the GL movie.  
 
I think the Avengers clear it. 

#38 Posted by Greendevil (1873 posts) - 1 year, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@steelhound56 said:

They either stop at Superman, or they clear it IMO

They clear with casual ease until Round 5 begins. And to clear a few things up...

I dont really think that Magneto is going to be able to manipulate Mjolnir. Going by movie showings, no one but Thor can wield the hammer. And since Mags doesn't possess reality manipulating/ magic manipuating powers in the movies, I'm saying he wont be able to manipulate it. Eric and Jean are the two biggest threats in the Brotherhood, as Juggs was MASSIVELY underpowered in the movie.

Going by movie showings, Mags may be able to manipulate the metal in Manhattan, but that isnt going to save him from Thor, as Mjolnir is enchanted to be ameanable to Thor alone, and Thor possesses more than enough durability/strength/speed/power to take Mags out.

Hulk could likely take out Jean. If Wolverine possesses enough durability to take Jean out, Hulk easily possesses enough durability to withstand her disintegration field.

Iron Man can take Juggs, while the rest of the Avengers can at least keep the remaining Brotherhood members busy, with Cap being able to take a few of them by himself. Once Thor is done with Mags and Hulk takes out Jean/Phoenix, it quickly becomes a massacre in The Avengers favor.

Batman and Hal are non factors in Round 6. Either Hawkeye or Black Widow could easily take Batman out, as both are easily superior to Nolan's Batman in h2h combat. Iron Man could wipe Hal form the face of the Earth with ease, given Hal had poor durability showings and really wasn't all that powerful in comparison to the movie Iron Man.

Superman is the real problem. But if The Avengers play it smart, they can take him out.

Thor and Hulk are hinted at being immortal by inference in the movie. At worst, both are shown as possessing ridiculous amounts of durability.

Both Thor and Hulk have 100+ ton strength.

Thor was able to crush Iron Man's Mk VI armor with little effort, using only his hands. He delivered a blow (deflected by Cap's shield) that leveled a large amount of forest around him (my best guess would be at least 500m), and was able to break out of a SHIELD chamber designed to hold Hulk once he gained sure footing. He also went toe to toe with Hulk and didn't show any signs of tiring or of physical trauma. He took on The Destroyer armor at full power with casual ease.

Hulk's strength and durability wasn't shown to have an upper limit in the movie, as he tanks fire from a score of gunships without any apparent damage to his person, oneshots a Skrull Leviathan, absolutely destroys Loki (an Asgardian with 30 ton strength, and a "Puny God") with no apparent effort, and tanks several strikes from Mjolnir with no ill effects. If we're including the crappy Ang Lee movie, Hulk tanked reentry into Earth's atmosphere as well.

If Hulk and Thor work together effectively, they can likely overpower Supes if working together in tandem. I'm also assuming Supes is vulnerable to magic in this case. If so, Thor's hammer may be able to damage him, and if Hulk gets angry enough, he might be able to overpower Supes on his own. Iron Man and other could provide distractions if need be, but Thor and Hulk are the two that have the best chance of taking on Superman and surviving.

They clear Round 7, as all of them have defeated these enemies before, and Hulk would likely crush Abomination this time around, as his Avengers incarnation is far stronger than his Incredible Hulk one.

Saruman and the Balrog are the only threats in Round 8. The former being an Istari, who is immortal in the astral plane, and the latter being slightly less powerful than Saruman is. That being said, Thor and Hulk could fight Saruman and the Balrog respectively based on movie showings. Cap takes the Nazgul, Widow takes the Uruk Hai beserkers (she has guns) and Hawkeye takes the Mumakill (clench up, Legolas). Iron Man provides assistance where it is needed, and Hulk and Thor move onto the main battle after they are done with their respective opponents.

#39 Posted by Havenless (643 posts) - 1 year, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@steelhound56 said:

Hulk's strength and durability wasn't shown to have an upper limit in the movie, as he tanks fire from a score of gunships without any apparent damage to his person, oneshots a Skrull Leviathan,

Eww.

And of the first 4 battles, 1 seems by far the toughest. 50 predator dogs and 50 predators?! Geez Louise, just imagine 10 rows of predators, 5 in a line. Those Predators would easily shred through the Chitauri, and I can't imagine how Hulk would handle repeated shoulder cannon blasts. 50 Predators. FIFTY.

#40 Posted by Daddy_Cool_Dude (283 posts) - 1 year, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@Havenless: Hulk survived being barraged by Chitauri's energy blast and received only minor injury, I think he'll take Predator's. Hulk moves all the time, so some percentage of the shot might not hit him.

#41 Posted by Greendevil (1873 posts) - 1 year, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@Havenless said:

@steelhound56 said:

Hulk's strength and durability wasn't shown to have an upper limit in the movie, as he tanks fire from a score of gunships without any apparent damage to his person, oneshots a Skrull Leviathan,

Eww.

And of the first 4 battles, 1 seems by far the toughest. 50 predator dogs and 50 predators?! Geez Louise, just imagine 10 rows of predators, 5 in a line. Those Predators would easily shred through the Chitauri, and I can't imagine how Hulk would handle repeated shoulder cannon blasts. 50 Predators. FIFTY.

@Daddy_Cool_Dude said:

@Havenless: Hulk survived being barraged by Chitauri's energy blast and received only minor injury, I think he'll take Predator's. Hulk moves all the time, so some percentage of the shot might not hit him.

  • The Leviathan KO was epic
  • Yes Hulk took the Chitauri blasts. And i know i counted at least a dozen attackers. Probably 2 dozen. Same blast knocked Stark on his ass.
  • I agree, 10 rows with 5 Predators would do some serious damage!
#42 Posted by hyiena (1060 posts) - 1 year, 17 days ago - Show Bio

The leviathan ko was like the KO of the lava beast thing in Planet Hulk.

#43 Posted by Bo88gdan (4131 posts) - 1 year, 17 days ago - Show Bio

Avengers win in all rounds

#44 Posted by Picard (912 posts) - 1 year, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@HolySerpent said:

Hulk is not touching a man who moves near light speed....I'm not going to argue.

Superman in the movie was not that fast.

#45 Edited by Iamlovewithin500 (1028 posts) - 1 year, 17 days ago - Show Bio
@Moonchilde:  

Fair enough that it wont be easy, but Hulk and Thor should be able to resist her long enough to tag her, and the Avengers still win in the end.

@Ferro Vida:  

Jean could not destroy Wolverine. Every time she hit him he just healed instantly. Hulk is more durable then Wolverine and has a healing factor. Thor is also more durable then him, and wouldn't even have to get close to hit her. Ironman's suit is made of a titanium-gold alloy. Gold is non-magnetic, and titanium is paramagnetic. Magneto would have to put a lot more effort into manipulating his suit then he would almost anything else.

@Shawnbaby:  X

-3 Phoenix was nothing all that special really. Her "Disintegration Field" wasn't enough to stop Logan...It won't stop Thor, Iron Man, or Hulk. Magneto would probably be a bigger problem...but he won't stand long against Thor. Hulk Beats Marko down with ease. Madrox would be an annoyance...but not a real threat. The rest aren't even really worth mentioning.

 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
 
 
You all are so wrong  on so many levels. Jean just has to barely think to disintegrate them atomically...*Sigh
 
 
BTW @Ferro Vida  Ironman's Whole suit isn't just pure titanium gold,He has other types of metal components in his suit. 
 
People, People..Listen I understand the Avengers hype,but The Avengers don't make it past the Brotherhood. All their street levelers get taken down quickly by Callisto.Just because Hulk and Thor are more durable, does not mean that they will automatically last longer against Jean's disintegration powers. Wolverine was able to surivive because he healed over and over and over again at rapid succession, and on an even greater scale than anything or any damage Hulk took. Wolverine had  a greater healing factor. 
 and that's stands in comics and in their respective movies. Durability means nothing to someone who can sub-atomically rip you apart  molecule by molecule,atom by atom without hardly thinking. Also Magneto may be old,but he's powerful,smart and wise and a great tactician. He Would use Ironman as a weapon, take Captain's shield and decapitate everyone else,and it's debatable if he can move move Thor's hammer, because in the  "Thor' movie regular humans tried to move it by physical means,not by manipulation on a scale as great Magneto's.   
 

 

@EpitomeofCool

said:

phoenix stops them....


Agreed.
#46 Posted by Moonchilde (1368 posts) - 1 year, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@Iamlovewithin500 said:

@Moonchilde:

Fair enough that it wont be easy, but Hulk and Thor should be able to resist her long enough to tag her, and the Avengers still win in the end.

@Ferro Vida:

Jean could not destroy Wolverine. Every time she hit him he just healed instantly. Hulk is more durable then Wolverine and has a healing factor. Thor is also more durable then him, and wouldn't even have to get close to hit her. Ironman's suit is made of a titanium-gold alloy. Gold is non-magnetic, and titanium is paramagnetic. Magneto would have to put a lot more effort into manipulating his suit then he would almost anything else.

@Shawnbaby: X

-3 Phoenix was nothing all that special really. Her "Disintegration Field" wasn't enough to stop Logan...It won't stop Thor, Iron Man, or Hulk. Magneto would probably be a bigger problem...but he won't stand long against Thor. Hulk Beats Marko down with ease. Madrox would be an annoyance...but not a real threat. The rest aren't even really worth mentioning.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


You all are so wrong on so many levels. Jean just has to barely think to disintegrate them atomically...*Sigh*


BTW @Ferro Vida Ironman's Whole suit isn't just pure titanium gold,He has other types of metal components in his suit.

People, People..Listen I understand the Avengers hype,but The Avengers don't make it past the Brotherhood. All their street levelers get taken down quickly by Callisto.Just because Hulk and Thor are more durable, does not mean that they will automatically last longer against Jean's disintegration powers. Wolverine was able to surivive because he healed over and over and over again at rapid succession, and on an even greater scale than anything or any damage Hulk took. Wolverine had a greater healing factor.
and that's stands in comics and in their respective movies. Durability means nothing to someone who can sub-atomically rip your apart molecule by molecule,atom by atom without hardly thinking. Also Magneto may be old,but he's powerful,smart and wise and a great tactician. He Would use Ironman as a weapon, take Captain's shied and decapitate everyone else,and it's debatable if he can move move Thor's hammer, because in the "Thor' movie regular humans tried to move it by physical means,not by manipulation on a scale as great Magneto's.



@EpitomeofCool

said:

phoenix stops them....

Agreed.

Did you not watch the very clip that I posted? The one that shows the scene the brotherhood supporters keep referencing? It shows that she didn't disintigrate alcatraz in seconds, but took her some time. The only thing she disintigrates instantly are no-name characters. Anyone with any decent level of durability is shown to be able to resist her.

As for Wolverine vs. Hulk. You are joking right? Wolverine gets KO'd by a bullet in the second movie. Hulk, Thor, Iron Man, and even Loki were all shown to be completely unphased by bullets, and Hulk's healing factor is shown to be greater then Wolverine's. Sorry, but Thor and Hulk both resist her, and take her down. Thor does so with a hammer to the face, thrown from half-a-mile away.

#47 Posted by MisterWhisper (1149 posts) - 1 year, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@spekqj: The problem with that though is that unlike the comic version of Magneto who has shields that can tank nukes movie version had complete crap for defense.

#48 Posted by Ferro Vida (33866 posts) - 1 year, 17 days ago - Show Bio
@Iamlovewithin500 said:

 
You all are so wrong  on so many levels. Jean just has to barely think to disintegrate them atomically...*Sigh
 

Which is why she failed to disintegrate Wolverine. 
 
@Iamlovewithin500 said:

BTW @Ferro Vida  Ironman's Whole suit isn't just pure titanium gold,He has other types of metal components in his suit. 
 
No, he literally stated in the first movie that it was made of a gold-titanium alloy. If you can prove that wrong, then please do so. 
 
@Iamlovewithin500 said:

 Wolverine was able to surivive because he healed over and over and over again at rapid succession, and on an even greater scale than anything or any damage Hulk took. Wolverine had  a greater healing factor. 

Wolverine was dropped by one bullet. Hulk has taken a Heck of a lot more damage and kept going. Hulk healed from greater damage, which implies that he has a greater healing factor. 
 
@Iamlovewithin500 said:

 and that's stands in comics and in their respective movies. Durability means nothing to someone who can sub-atomically rip your apart  molecule by molecule,atom by atom without hardly thinking.
Clearly this isn't true, since she could not kill Wolverine. 
@Iamlovewithin500 said:
 Also Magneto may be old,but  he's powerful,smart and wise and a great tactician. He Would use Ironman as a weapon, take Captain's shied and decapitate everyone else,and it's debatable if he can move move Thor's hammer, because in the  "Thor' movie regular humans tried to move it by physical means,not by manipulation on a scale as great Magneto's.   
Titanium is barely magnetic. What makes you think Iron Man can't fight his control, since he has superhuman strength in his armour. Seriously, the only person who has ever had the opportunity to fight against his powers is Wolverine, who is A LOT more magnetic then Iron Man, and A LOT less powerful. There is no evidence that Vibranium is magnetic in the movie universe, and even if it is you are seriously undervaluing all of the Avengers if you think they will all die from Cap's shield. Thor's hammer is made from a magic metal that is not found on Earth. It can only be wielded by Thor, as it was made specifically for him. There is NO evidence that Magneto can affect it.
#49 Edited by Iamlovewithin500 (1028 posts) - 1 year, 17 days ago - Show Bio
@Moonchilde

Did you not watch the very clip that I posted? The one that shows the scene the brotherhood supporters keep referencing? It shows that she didn't disintigrate alcatraz in seconds, but took her some time. The only thing she disintigrates instantly are no-name characters. Anyone with any decent level of durability is shown to be able to resist her.

As for Wolverine vs. Hulk. You are joking right? Wolverine gets KO'd by a bullet in the second movie. Hulk, Thor, Iron Man, and even Loki were all shown to be completely unphased by bullets, and Hulk's healing factor is shown to be greater then Wolverine's. Sorry, but Thor and Hulk both resist her, and take her down. Thor does so with a hammer to the face, thrown from half-a-mile away.

I've seen that clip a thousand times,I HAVE ALL THE X-MEN movies.No need to watch the clip.If Jean really wanted to obliterate that whole island effectively immediately, then she could have.I don't know if you noticed or not,but when Jean started off disintegrating everything in her path,It started off within her immediate area,and then the damage started growing and growing in range, which is why Storm had time to evacuate the other X-men and the soldiers off the island. 
 
 
Though the fact of how long she took to completely singe everything isn't the point, because even before she obliterated everything,she had already did pretty decent damage to half of the island.Also That much power wont even be needed, because obviously The Avengers don't take up as much space. 
 
 
As for Wolverine vs Hulk. I'm aware that Wolverine's Durability was inconsistent,but I believe this is where people are getting messed up in this debate.You guys seem to  not know the difference between durability and healing factor. Just because Wolverine got shot, and hit in the head with a huge log by Sabertooh etc, doesn't mean that his healing factor was inconsistent...Just means his durability was all over the place.Though his healing factor and regeneration was consistent throughout.He lost layers of tissue,even maybe some organs when confronting Phoenix during X-3,he lost so much that you could see his rib cage,but the only reason he didn't go down was because he had an intense healing factor.Hulk as durable as he is,does not have the regeneration abilities of Wolverine. 
 
Jean would look at him  and rip through all of that tough green flesh,she'd take him a part atom by atom.Same with Thor. 
 
Their hides would be no more.  
 
 
I admit, those guys are pretty tough when it comes to tanking physical hits like lasers, energy blast and bullet nukes.......but mind over matter. 
Jean was literally manipulating matter on a large scale.The Avengers haven't dealt with anything like Phoenix yet...(at least movieverse wise
 
and I stand by that.
#50 Posted by eatmore_payless (2164 posts) - 1 year, 17 days ago - Show Bio

Stops at round six Movie Superman was a monster having him carry an Island full of kryptonites, tearing the plane's wings like it was a piece of paper, stopping a raging fire explosion with just his breath, surviving in space, stops all the falling rocks from a building with his heat vision. dont forget his speed blitzing.

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