@lowlaville: ten bat mite and trigon should be way above him. his powers only include immense strength, speed, durability, about 16 senses, minor reality warping, and telepathy. his weakness in that he is completely dependent on the sun, THE sun, for his powers, and if he is separated from it, he weakens quickly.
Most powerful reality warpers EVER!
@thelocust619: he created both DC and vertigo multiverse. not enough? and omnipotence is the infinite amount of power you have, it does not mean you could not rest. after he created everything, what else can he do except rest?
Most Powerful in Marvel: Mad Jim Jaspers/HOM Scarlet Witch.
Most Powerful in DC: Mr. Mxyzptlk/Lucifer Morningstar.
Most Potential in Marvel: Franklin Richards.
Most Potential in DC: Superman Prime One-Million.
Jmarshmallow
CELESTIALSAPIENS(Ben 10)Most powerful reality warper
CELESTIALSAPIENS(Ben 10)Most potential reality warper.
Kami Tenchi (he is omniversally omnipotent, like TOAA.) http://tenchi.wikia.com/wiki/Kami_Tenchi
Lord Of Nightmares
Azathoth
Yog Sothoth
Elder God Demon Bane
Featherine Augustus
Protege (Since can copy any power, is potentially omnipotent, or nigh omnipotent at least)
The Overmonitor or Overvoid.
Strongest Reality warper?
probably Franklin Richard, Mad Jim Jaspers, Mr. Mxyzptlk, and bugs bunny.
With the most potential?
thats easy:
Bo-Bobo And Don Patch:
don patch killed a guy with butter, they can create matter out of nothing and use that matter ti completely defy any laws of physics needed to accomplish their goal.
albeit silly and always powerful, he casually warps reality as needed.
while not quite on the power level of people like Richards or Myx or bugs, these guys are pretty casual reality warpers/matter manipulators.
the problem is these guys literally don't take anything seriously. even when they are acting serious, they are still doing random BS and treating the situation like a joke. i feel if they were 100% serious and were not treating things like a joke, they could easily be in the top with how broken they are. they break every law of physic on a fundamental level virtually every episode, but mostly by doing completely stupid random things.
@andriperdhian93: That might actually be true
Lucy for both. She became Omnipresent and Omniscient and was the entire Multiverse. (Supporting M-Theory in the movie with the universal origin point blooming out infinite universes). She is fictions only confirmed literal infinite being.
1-WPOTC
2-Beyonders
3-Protegé
4-Living Tribunal
5-Nemesis
6-Lucifer
7-Spectre
8-Abraxas
9-Kobik
10-Shuma~Gorath
11-Cyttorak
12-Mr Mxyzptlk
13-Matthew Malloy
14-HOM Wanda
15-Trigon if not MJJ.
I am not counting dark/Phoenix, or Green/Phoenix and the Phoenix Force at all. Cz i already counted WPOTC.
honorable mentions r Franklin Richards, Dormammu, Dr Strange, Eternity, Infinity, Goblin Force Zatanna, Nabu, legion etc
Xoxo~::/Gossip~Guy!!!!!!!!...........???????
@guled120: You put White Featless of the Crown above the Ivory Kings?
Hallo again, it is my opinion and WPOTC isn't featless, just bcz one hasn't shown feats doesn't mean he or she is weak.
WPOTC has complete control over time, space and reality and she is omniversal. To simply put it this is my top list, i might forgot some charecters tho.
Xoxo~::/Gossip~Guy!!!!!!........???????
1-WPOTC
2-Beyonders
3-Protegé
4-Living Tribunal
5-Nemesis
6-Lucifer
7-Spectre
8-Abraxas
9-Kobik
10-Shuma~Gorath
11-Cyttorak
12-Mr Mxyzptlk
13-Matthew Malloy
14-HOM Wanda
15-Trigon if not MJJ.
I am not counting dark/Phoenix, or Green/Phoenix and the Phoenix Force at all. Cz i already counted WPOTC.
honorable mentions r Franklin Richards, Dormammu, Dr Strange, Eternity, Infinity, Goblin Force Zatanna, Nabu, legion etc
Xoxo~::/Gossip~Guy!!!!!!!!...........???????
This is factually wrong and doesn't make any relative sense.
White Phoenix above the Beyonders? Above Protege or LT or even Lucifer
Cmon now.
Hallo again, it is my opinion and WPOTC isn't featless, just bcz one hasn't shown feats doesn't mean he or she is weak.
WPOTC has complete control over time, space and reality and she is omniversal. To simply put it this is my top list, i might forgot some charecters tho.
Xoxo~::/Gossip~Guy!!!!!!........???????
WPOTC IS FEATLESS!
omniversal my foot... you seem to ignore a lot of things and make claims so wild its almost unbelievable from you're post history.
@nerevarine_11: Ive already tried reasoning with him, to no avail.
He literally says "just bcz one hasn't shown feats doesn't mean he or she is weak" i mean fr? if she doesn't have any feats how can you say shes omniversal...
@nerevarine_11: really?
Hallo again, it is my opinion and WPOTC isn't featless, just bcz one hasn't shown feats doesn't mean he or she is weak.
WPOTC has complete control over time, space and reality and she is omniversal. To simply put it this is my top list, i might forgot some charecters tho.
Xoxo~::/Gossip~Guy!!!!!!........???????
No she isn't.
Molecule Man would murder her. PR Beyonder would murder her.
Scathan the Approver would disapprove of her existence and obliterate her.
Eternity or any other Marvel Abstract would annihilate her.
Thanos with the IG would kill her. Don't even get me started on HOTU.
@nerevarine_11: really?
Yeah.
@nerevarine_11: Ive already tried reasoning with him, to no avail.
He literally says "just bcz one hasn't shown feats doesn't mean he or she is weak" i mean fr? if she doesn't have any feats how can you say shes omniversal...
I wouldn't worry about it, the internet is chock full of situations like this.
Best thing to do is laugh and move on.
Thats what I do.
@guled120: Show us evidence that Stan Lee said that WFotC is equal to ToAA.
Please, just show us.
1-WPOTC
2-Beyonders
3-Protegé
4-Living Tribunal
5-Nemesis
6-Lucifer
7-Spectre
8-Abraxas
9-Kobik
10-Shuma~Gorath
11-Cyttorak
12-Mr Mxyzptlk
13-Matthew Malloy
14-HOM Wanda
15-Trigon if not MJJ.
I am not counting dark/Phoenix, or Green/Phoenix and the Phoenix Force at all. Cz i already counted WPOTC.
honorable mentions r Franklin Richards, Dormammu, Dr Strange, Eternity, Infinity, Goblin Force Zatanna, Nabu, legion etc
Xoxo~::/Gossip~Guy!!!!!!!!...........???????
This is factually wrong and doesn't make any relative sense.
White Phoenix above the Beyonders? Above Protege or LT or even Lucifer
Cmon now.
I'm just saying factually wrong how? Not say it's right but factually the Beyonders used years and years of prep to take out LT. LT and Phoenix both agreed that a battle between them would likely destroy the multiverse before a winner was established and even he could not just command her to do what he wanted and had no real concept of why she did anything. Protege was a mimic that at the end was still under the judgment of a celestial and since Lucifer can't create he is missing a power the Phoenix is actually made of, so she can warp and create reality while all he can do is warp.
@nerevarine_11: ow pls, now that's nonsence
@guled120: Show us evidence that Stan Lee said that WFotC is equal to ToAA.
Please, just show us.
I found the evidence.
@guled120: Show.
Us.
Evidence.
You've been asked this countless times.
Just do it.
@nerevarine_11: ow pls, now that's nonsence
Correct your spelling first of all.
Secondly offer a counterpoint. An intelligent one. Just saying "thats nonsence" doesn't solidify it.
Third times a charm right guys?
@lordofallhumans: now there is someone who does understand what i'm mean???
@guled120: If you would show evidence and scans to back up you're claims that would be great!
Until then we are all going to laugh. here a great GIF for you:
I'm just saying factually wrong how? Not say it's right but factually the Beyonders used years and years of prep to take out LT.
No they didn't. They planned to destroy the Marvel Multiverse. That was their intention. However the abstracts approcahed them and the Beyonders killed them as even Ant-Man shows "On a Whim". Meaning they didn't want to. At that point Living Tribunal manifested and approached them randomly. They fought. The Beyonders won.
All of their fights with the Celestials, Abstracts and LT was random because they originally faced almost zero opposition in destroying the Multiverse.
LT and Phoenix both agreed that a battle between them would likely destroy the multiverse before a winner was established and even he could not just command her to do what he wanted and had no real concept of why she did anything
First of all when was this?
Second of all if LT is saying this its because hes the caretaker and judge of the multiverse. Trillions of lives would be lost in the process and he didn't want to fight one Entity at the expense of all of that.
Protege was a mimic that at the end was still under the judgment of a celestial and since Lucifer can't create he is missing a power the Phoenix is actually made of, so she can warp and create reality while all he can do is warp.
Scathan is not an ordinary Celestial. Hes literally LT's equal and both work in unison. Protege can just mimic PF and own her considering he was doing that before with the LT.
Lucifer can't create but I believe thats been fixed and he can. However he can still warp reality and overcome the Phoenix Force. Much of his feats suggest this as opposed to Phoenix's.
1-WPOTC
2-Beyonders
3-Protegé
4-Living Tribunal
5-Nemesis
6-Lucifer
7-Spectre
8-Abraxas
9-Kobik
10-Shuma~Gorath
11-Cyttorak
12-Mr Mxyzptlk
13-Matthew Malloy
14-HOM Wanda
15-Trigon if not MJJ.
I am not counting dark/Phoenix, or Green/Phoenix and the Phoenix Force at all. Cz i already counted WPOTC.
honorable mentions r Franklin Richards, Dormammu, Dr Strange, Eternity, Infinity, Goblin Force Zatanna, Nabu, legion etc
Xoxo~::/Gossip~Guy!!!!!!!!...........???????
This is factually wrong and doesn't make any relative sense.
White Phoenix above the Beyonders? Above Protege or LT or even Lucifer
Cmon now.
I'm just saying factually wrong how? Not say it's right but factually the Beyonders used years and years of prep to take out LT. LT and Phoenix both agreed that a battle between them would likely destroy the multiverse before a winner was established and even he could not just command her to do what he wanted and had no real concept of why she did anything. Protege was a mimic that at the end was still under the judgment of a celestial and since Lucifer can't create he is missing a power the Phoenix is actually made of, so she can warp and create reality while all he can do is warp.
Lucifer has created something from nothing. in Nirvana. and Nerervarine already showed you how everything else in this post is wrong.
@guled120: Show us evidence that Stan Lee said that WFotC is equal to ToAA.
Please, just show us.
I found the evidence.
@guled120: Show us evidence that Stan Lee said that WFotC is equal to ToAA.
Please, just show us.
I found the evidence.
It was never stated WP was equal to TOAA. It was stated that Dark Phoenix was only second to the creator. WP is more powerful than Dark Phoenix and is a complete Phoenix Force which in it's native form is an expression of the creators passion to create and destroy meaning the Phoenix Force is an aspect of TOAA and was the vehicle he/she/it used to create Marvel and will use to destroy it in a natural cycle without interference. The Phoenix is not a being it is the force that starts, perpetuates and ends everything. Even Eternity admits this on panel.
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