Most Powerful comic book character bracket: Round 3 Fight 1: Mister Majestic vs Thor(OF)

..............................................Superman is literally forming a thought after having "sped up his senses to where the whole world has frozen in place", to equalize the character you more or less thought the ability was exclusive to. I don't even.....................................................

@xiix: lol

that is what i'm actually saying .. traveling at light speed means the whole world is actually frozen compared to you... and forming a thought during that means ............

@skyrobo1:

this .. and see the conversation afterwards

@ssj_god: I'm not talking about the actual formation of an impulsive-thought. I mean the course in which they'd be able to function as if it were normal. A vehicle/mode of transportation is not an accurate representation for obvious reasons.

Otherwise these guys would be real life bullet-timers, and capably side-step everything around or below that speed.

And this may come as a shock to you; but they're not, and they can't.

This would only work if Thor's time manipulation powers is an instant cast and not like his other powers i.e Godblast where he needs time to summon it. Another problem is during Thor:Disassembled when he was fighting against wolverine he got his hand or was it arm cut off and this was him still amped with the OF (Which again shows his unimproved reaction speed)

That's in large part the problem: you're thinking about how it would have to practically be applied to the real world. The writers don't keep such things in mind(in large part), and actually often make a distinction between the two.

That's also why Superman's reaction/fighting speed isn't as fast as his travel speed.

Just because he navigates at those speeds, doesn't mean he can fight at them, and just like Lobo, Thor, and others has NEVER been portrayed as doing so(that is, fighting at speeds they're perfectly capable of traveling at).

Don't like it? Become a writer, and write 'em differently.

@xiix:

and this may shock you .. ability and speed of thought process is not equal to body actually permitting to work at that speed

here .. this might give you idea what i was talking about thinking at light speed.

here ego the living planet moving on hyperspace (i.e over few times speed of light) .. see how thor spots him (spotting a character moving at that speed is some thought process speed i guess).. interacts with him at that speed with relative ease..

but these type of explanation really doesn't stand a chance in a debate here :D

@skyrobo1:

it do not require charging like godblast.... and as they attack at the same time as i explained... reaction time won't really come to play here.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING THE ENTIRE TIME.

Hence why nothing has come of those formerly requested scans of Thor or Lobo doing anything other than NAVIGATING/TRAVELING at those speeds(several times faster than light).

Because that's the only thing they can do at those speeds: NAVIGATE.

Not fight, or conceive, start to build, then remodel an intricate piece of tech.

Blame the writers that the disparity is simply so striking in Thor's case.

bro .. we were talking about thought speed here (navigating or thinking at that speed indicates thought speed) .. not reaction speed .. this is as the same it was .. mr. majestic and thor has same thought speed .. not reaction speed (i never said they had same reaction speed)

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@pikachumonster:

yeah .. i do say things with reason .. and when ever i see flaws in my reason .. i'm man enough to admit that .. but that is not the case here.

@ssj_god: ok?

@ssj_god: As I said: Feel free to prove Thor's "thought-speed" helping him in combat against anyone of Majestic's quickness(who's capable of lopping his head off).

Showing him running from Ego in hyperspace isn't topical.

@xiix:

and as i said .. we can't prove anyone of those two thinks faster than a normal character here in vine..

it was great talking with u.. u really made my time a little worth .. as other threads were a little... dead :D

signing out . seeya later :)

@ssj_god: Haha. Thanks for helping me kill some time as well.

See you around, man.

I feel a bit slow here.. So we can't compare because we're on the vine? As in a bias?

@pikachumonster: Pretty much. That there's a perpetual dogma in regards to what is an isn't acceptable as "relevant reactionary speed".

@ssj_god said:

@xiix:

and this may shock you .. ability and speed of thought process is not equal to body actually permitting to work at that speed

here .. this might give you idea what i was talking about thinking at light speed.

here ego the living planet moving on hyperspace (i.e over few times speed of light) .. see how thor spots him (spotting a character moving at that speed is some thought process speed i guess).. interacts with him at that speed with relative ease..

but these type of explanation really doesn't stand a chance in a debate here :D

This is incorrect. Thor himself is also moving incredibly quickly here.

You yourself can't react to a bullet, can you? You can't think fast enough to do something before an already fired bullet hits you. But if I fired a bullet and then put you in a car that was going just as fast as that bullet, and put the two side by side as they traveled, you'd be able to see the bullet moving in midair even though you normally can't. This is called a frame of reference. From Thor's frame of reference, when they're both travelling through hyperspace at FTL speeds, Ego doesn't appear to be moving fast at all because they're going in the same direction.

If Thor was already in the process of moving FTL in the same direction at the same time Majestic was moving, he'd be able to react to him until Majestic changed direction relative to Thor's frame of reference. This is irrelevant as neither combatant starts this fight off while moving. It takes Thor atleast a microsecond, if we're being generous, to process a thought. Within that span of time, not only could Majestic blitz him, Majestic could literally create a spaceship that fast and then crash it into Thor's face before Thor can think. Even though they START at the same time, they do not think at the same speeds, so Thor doesn't get to act at the same time that Majestic does.

It's like a real life quickdraw. If someone can react a thousand times faster than the person they're drawing against, they'll have fired the shot before the other person moves even though they start thinking at the same time. You're creating a completely absurd scenario in which reaction time and thinking speed are irrelevant because that's the only way you can think of to have Thor win and that is your goal.

Thought this match up would be locked or something as Majestic already won

He did, but I forgot to get someone to lock it.

@god_spawn@saren