So whom do you guys think is the most overrated comic character in ComicVine Battle forums is. IMO it is Sentry,Pre Retcon Beyonder and Flash.
Most overrated Character in COMIC
batman. but I don't think it stops at battles. this NORMAL human being somehow got multiple degrees in different areas of expertise, mastered 127 martial arts, and learned multiple languages fluently while becoming the single greatest world detective in a span of years. Anyone that wants to pretend that hes not super in some way shape or form, is dreaming. Don't get me wrong, I like the character, but come on now. It's not like hes god or something.....
@koays: How is Thor at all overrated? If anything he's underrated, he's literally mocked on this site on a regular basis.
In my opinion it's
Flash
Superman
Sentry
@conner_wolf: Something something MCU Thor City Bust something something Thor walks on the sun something something Thor was holding back in that scan.
Thor/Storm/Flash/Sentry.
Maybe its just me but Batman isn't wanked as much on the forums as he was, unless your counting threads where he's given a week/month/year of prep time and a Hellbat/insider hybrid with Batmite feats in the setup. Then its not overrated its just byass.
How is storm overrated again? I barely see her nowadays in vs threads
@koays: As opposed to Thor being slower than Wolverine, isn't that right?
Overrated:
1. Batman
2. Flash
Underrated:
1. Hulk
2. Ozymandias
3. Black Panther
This.
The Flash(s), Sentry, Ra's Al Ghul, Apocalypse, Dr. Manhattan, Thor, Superman(sundipped/1-Million), Thanos, The Source, Reed Richards/Dr. Doom with any(relatively small) amount of prep, and Captain Atom are the elite overrated.
Their cases usually boil down to "they did it once/a time or two, so let's just assume they fight that way every time" AKA acceptable high-balling.
@prospero_locke: The thing that people need to realize, is that different writers focus on different aspects of Batman's abilities. In the 70s and 80s, especially under Neil Gaiman focused on the detective aspects of the character and that was his main talent. Physically he wasn't the invincible god-man some fans would have you believe he is. In Grant Morrison's JLA run, Batman's main thing was his overall intelligence and perception, he kept up with the JLA using strategics and psychological skills. In current times after Frank Miller, I find writers put a big emphasis on martial arts and willpower, and push strategics and detective work to the side.
The fanboys would have you believe that Batman is operating as a master of ALL these fields at ALL times, and that's where the problem comes in. Most writers however, tend to prefer a certain, select few aspects of the character, and Batman only specializes in those. Some writers (mostly back in the day, like the 70s) portray Batman as a slim and fast master acrobat, whereas other writers say that his fighting style relies on physical strength. Most writers would say that Batman can beat the strongest guy by being faster and the fastest guy by being stronger, NOT defeat the strongest guy by being stronger and the fastest guy by being faster. The fanboys however will take one scan from the 70s, one scan from the 80s, one from the 90s, and then one from last week and play it off as if Batman is an expert in every conceivable field in existence.
4. Deathstroke
Him too.
Loathe as I am to add him(being he's my absolute favorite), Lucifer Morningstar as well.
As someone who has read at least 99% of every appearance he's ever made, in any publication, claiming he'll just "manipulate them" is hands down the laziest, downright full of sh!t contrivance of a means to victory I think I've ever seen.
And I see it in pretty much every damn thread featuring him against any other nigh-omnipotent character.
The thing that people need to realize, is that different writers focus on different aspects of Batman's abilities. In the 70s and 80s, especially under Neil Gaiman focused on the detective aspects of the character and that was his main talent. Physically he wasn't the invincible god-man some fans would have you believe he is. In Grant Morrison's JLA run, Batman's main thing was his overall intelligence and perception, he kept up with the JLA using strategics and psychological skills. In current times after Frank Miller, I find writers put a big emphasis on martial arts and willpower, and push strategics and detective work to the side.
The fanboys would have you believe that Batman is operating as a master of ALL these fields at ALL times, and that's where the problem comes in. Most writers however, tend to prefer a certain, select few aspects of the character, and Batman only specializes in those. Some writers (mostly back in the day, like the 70s) portray Batman as a slim and fast master acrobat, whereas other writers say that his fighting style relies on physical strength. Most writers would say that Batman can beat the strongest guy by being faster and the fastest guy by being stronger, NOT defeat the strongest guy by being stronger and the fastest guy by being faster. The fanboys however will take one scan from the 70s, one scan from the 80s, one from the 90s, and then one from last week and play it off as if Batman is an expert in every conceivable field in existence.
Great analysis
@sentry4: Thank you.
So many, also I wouldn't consider the Sentry overrated, perhaps even understated at times, as Dc/Superman fans etc, can't get there head around him not being a Superman Rip-Off, when actually his feats are well above that level; which enabled him to beat Molecule Man which wasn't pis.
@g-dude: superman is underated by a lot of people on here, overatted is hulk, flash sentry , doom and midnighter
Sentry
Flash isn't overrated given the methods that Viners use to determine a character's abilities, but it's obvious that the CV version is very different from the Flash that appears in the actual comics. Thats what you get if you judge a character without considering the context (and I don't mean the context inside the universe, I mean the context of the storytelling and such)
@josephgomes619: Yea she's not featured as frequently, but she has a tendency to become an omnipotent energy manipulator who reacts and attacks without having to think on it in any fight that should give her trouble given her durability and otherwise human stats.
@conner_wolf: lol im not saying his defense is unwarranted, but Thor reasoning tends to just act like he's not wholely inconsistent.
@koays: Dude, every character has so many inconsistencies. Superman has trouble with The General or Solomon Grundy one day, the next he's blowing up moons. I personally just prefer to take the characters at the best we've seen them without dipping into PIS or no-limits/Infinite territory. Using inconsistencies to try and put a character down just turns into "Your character sucks me!" "No, your character sucks more!" and that's how you get flame wars.
batman. but I don't think it stops at battles. this NORMAL human being somehow got multiple degrees in different areas of expertise, mastered 127 martial arts, and learned multiple languages fluently while becoming the single greatest world detective in a span of years. Anyone that wants to pretend that hes not super in some way shape or form, is dreaming. Don't get me wrong, I like the character, but come on now. It's not like hes god or something.....
Yea, he's super. But stop comparing him to galaxy busters.
@conner_wolf: Yea, and I agree completely, but if we're trying to estimate what it will take for the Flash to beat Thor then we need to be fair about how he doesn't always react as fast as he does win he tags Quicksilver or some random speedster. I'm all for looking at a character at their best, but if the character doesn't consistently repeat their better feats then why would they be able to consistently duplicate over the course of a knock down drag out fight situation posed.
@koays: But then you look to Thor tagging even faster people like Sentry, Silver Surfer, or Hyperion, and people just totally ignore those as well. I totally understand recognizing a character's weak point-speed is definitely Thor's-but people seem to just take the status quo and use it to their advantage. Personally, when there's such a massive gap between what a character does at one point and what he does at another, I think it's enough to say he'd lose at least 1 fight based solely on that, but it's not enough to say he'd just get blitzed and that's the end of it.
Any high tier JL member, especially Superman.
Anyone with molecular manipulation (below skyfather) because let's be real, everyone and their mother has resisted it.
Aquaman. The fact that people think he can beat Iron Man and hold his own against Hulk or Thor is ridiculous.
As for underrated characters, Elektra is gravely underrated, as are most street levelers.
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