MoS Villains: Faora, Nam-Ek, Zod
vs
MCU Villains: Kurse, Ronan, Ultron
Everyone bloodlusted, win by death, battle on Earth.
Final form of Ultron. No Gem for Ronan.
Which team of villains wins?
MoS Villains: Faora, Nam-Ek, Zod
vs
MCU Villains: Kurse, Ronan, Ultron
Everyone bloodlusted, win by death, battle on Earth.
Final form of Ultron. No Gem for Ronan.
Which team of villains wins?
Does Ronan have the gem?
What feats did he have with the gem?
Faora solos. MCU combat animations are too slow. Faora would get 10 punches in before Ultron can swing once. Not only that Faora punches are stronger too. One punch made superman fly across a town, one punch from Ultron to Captain America went back 2 mm.
@willpayton: Well, there's a problem regardless. With the gem, he is a planet buster, but he's more or less featless without the gem.
@super_mod: I think since you go by their latest showing, Ultron is vibranium.
@super_mod: I think since you go by their latest showing, Ultron is vibranium.
Hmmm...probably still the MoS team then although I could see Ultron being the last one on his team to go down. I could even see him taking one of them down with him.
@super_mod: im pretty sure it comes with like, logic...
regular ultron wasnt even that strong
@super_mod: im pretty sure it comes with like, logic...
Yeah I know but I don't like to assume one thing and then be wrong. If ppl don't specify those types of details and I just make that assumption, I run the risk of looking even dumber than I would if I didn't make it. At least that's how I look at it.
@keenko: He isn't a planet-buster with the gem, he was going to scorch the entire surface, not not destroy the planet.
@bouncyhippo: Faora isn't even speedster level, it wasn't impossible to track her, or hit her.
In my opinion, if we use Vibranium Ultron, Zod shouldn't be able to harm him, his heat vision would be laughable, and his energy attacks should be plenty capable of keeping Zod at bay, I don't think Ultron has any real firepower though, his role in this fight would be to keep Zod out of the fight.
Kurse is entirely capable of taking down Namek, simple reason being, comparable strength, but Kurse's damage soak is almost as high as the goat from Goat Simulator.
Then if you have Ronan vs Faora, that hammer is capable of nice amounts of destruction, as is his Infinity stone. Without it, he did manage to beat Drax in definitive H2H combat, and Drax did treat all of Ronan's soldiers like paper people. Although his real damage would likely come from his hammer.
And while Faora has superior strength feats, Ronan has a pretty high damage soak, taking the Haedon Enforcer pretty easily, and even if Faora is fast, Ronan has his hammer to counter that, and the Universal Weapon is nothing to ignore in terms of power. It certainly wouldn't be an easy win for either side.
In the end, Kurse would probably carry the team once he's done with Namek, either helping Ronan finish his fight, ending Faora after she ended Ronan, or then moving with Ronan to fight Zod, and then the trio could prove too much for it.
If this is Vibranium Ultron and powered Ronan, MCU baddies take it.
Otherwise Ultron gets manhandled, Ronan goes down and sooner or later Kurse burns out.
Nam Ek dies in either scenario.
Noone is soloing, all 3 mos villians would get wrecked by kurse 1v1, until they show good combat speed or striking feats or eve. Durability to suggest they can stand a hit they would get one shotted
The MOS killians, but with a lot of difficulty
Agreed
Noone is soloing, all 3 mos villians would get wrecked by kurse 1v1, until they show good combat speed or striking feats or eve. Durability to suggest they can stand a hit they would get one shotted
Kurse is not one shotting any Kryptonian he could not do so to Thor and their durability is higher than Thor's, while Nam Ek is stronger than Kurse and has the feats like skying a 100 ton locomotive across the town like a football, Kurse's durability is also pretty low Loki ran a spear through him quite easily
If Ronan wouldn't fall for a dance off(i mean seriously?) than he would've a showing that would put him far higher than all MoS and MCU villains combined. Unfortunately he was extremely stupid and thus has no good showing.
MoS villains take it pretty comfortable, Ultron might talk them to death but i guess Nam-Ek would just go insane in first act and kill him with the help of Kurse.
Does Ronan have the gem?
I'll say no Power Gem because that's an external amp, and he has no actual feats with it anyway (AFAIK).
Which version of Ultron? This makes big difference in Battle threads.
The last version in the film.
@super_mod: if ultron wasnt final form in this, hed be fooder
@super_mod: if ultron wasnt final form in this, hed be fooder
Nah he wouldn't be but he'd still die.
@willpayton: its kinda different with power gems, i know, but ill try to add logic
if a man can shoot a gun, i should be able to as well
@willpayton: its kinda different with power gems, i know, but ill try to add logic
if a man can shoot a gun, i should be able to as well
But the gem might not work that way. Like, for example a GL ring. Hal Jordan can use it and do amazing things, but a normal human wouldnt be able to do anything with it because they lack enough willpower. Or with your gun analogy, you might be able to use it, but if you're a double-amputee you wont be able to use it at all. So, each weapon might have its own requirement for using it that we might or might not be aware of.
@willpayton: lanterns ring relies on willpower
infinity gems only require the wearer to be powerful enough to hold them
As in the past, I only see Kurse as a threat in this fight. Ultron is fodder, and Ronan didnt do anything without the Gem.
Was Ronan ever actually hurt? I can't remember
The only time he fought was against Drax, who he owned completely. However, he was incapped for a second, after getting the stone, by a Rocket Launcher blast.
Without the stone he is practically featless, unless you A,B,C with the Drax fight, but Drax is pretty featless too.
@willpayton: lanterns ring relies on willpower
infinity gems only require the wearer to be powerful enough to hold them
How do you know that? Hold the gem how? In the hand? Powerful enough in what sense? Strength? How do you know Ronan met any of those requirements?
@willpayton: maybe because he had the gem and didnt insta die?
@willpayton: maybe because he had the gem and didnt insta die?
He didnt die because he wasnt physically touching it. That's why he implanted it in his hammer. If he could physically hold it close to his body he wouldnt risk putting it where it could be taken away from him.
You didnt answer my other questions.
@willpayton: i got nothing, this pc is lagging way too much for me to even make a good comeback. this response is tking over 3 minutes.
@deaditegonzo: Thanks for the reminder. I think I'm leaning with the MOS team.
If ronan has the gem he destroys the planet. If he hasn't Kurse solos bc he nearly killed thor who survived a city-landmass exploding.
No gem for Ronan.
one plus 3 /=/ 2
thor was ko and had scars weeks later
thor was even brusied before he fought kurse and ultron
@claritywins: are you an alt of academic ?
@claritywins: are you an alt of academic ?
has @academic finally been banned.
on topic MOS wins this line up isnt the best swapping Loki for Ronan would be better
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