MOS Superman Vs Movie Team

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Thor,Hulk,Green Lantern,Hancock,and Silver Surfer

Round 1

  • No Prep
  • Limited Knowledge
  • Morals On
  • Bloodlust Off
  • No BFR
  • Hulk Have Both 2003 and MCU Feats
  • Stand Distance Is 1760 Feet
  • Win By KO/Incap/Death

Round 2

  • No Prep
  • Full Knowledge
  • Morals Off
  • Bloodlust On
  • Stand Distance Is 9850 Feet
  • Win By KO/Death/Incap

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#2  Edited By MethoKi

There's no way Supes can win, He can KO Thor, GL and possibly Hulk but Hancock and Surfer are gonna be too much.

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BTW,Hulk still have 2003 and MCU Feats for R2

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Here we go with the Hancock overrating..

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#5  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

Team, mostly because of Surfer. I don't see the others lasting very long.

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Team. Due to Surfer and those Hulks weren't so impressive in the Durability department. Let's hope in the future movies in which i've heard they are planning to use Indestructible Hulk version, they show the real indestructibility of him :P

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@ghostravage: 2003 Hulk was pretty impressive and I feel like I'm the only one who enjoyed the movie more. Didn't 2003 Hulk tank a nuke or some kind of WMD at the end?

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The team wins handily.

On a side note, Hancock looks badass.

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in order of difficulty

  1. GL
  2. SS
  3. Thor
  4. Hulk
  5. Hancock
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#10  Edited By MonsterStomp

@wolverine08: I wouldn't know about handily, but the Team should win.

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#11  Edited By Wolverine008

@monsterstomp: I guess you're right, but why are you hating on badass black Superman? :D

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@wolverine08: I'm not. I'm hating on the people who ride his jock lol.

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Team wins.

Green Lantern was pretty impressive

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@monsterstomp: I don't recall Shrek-Hulk tanking such thing, but i could be wrong. It's been literally 10 years since i saw it :P

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#15  Edited By MonsterStomp

@ghostravage: At the end when his father was absorbing all his gamma (I think). The general ordered a bomb drop of some sort. Hulk's father didn't make it, but a weakened Hulk survived.

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Team. Green Lantern wasnt a good movie but i think he had great feats and Silver Surfer being Silver Surfer...

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Team wins very easily. This is a mismatch.

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#18  Edited By isaac_clarke

Hancock alone would win (significantly better at everything that matters). Arguments could be made for the Silver Surfer doing so aswell.

Green Lantern, the Hulk and Thor are pretty much on the more useless side here anyhow.

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Here we go with the Hancock overrating..

This that needs t die die down. Way to overrated.

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#20  Edited By Thitiki

Hancock alone would win (significantly better at everything that matters). Arguments could be made for the Silver Surfer doing so aswell.

Green Lantern, the Hulk and Thor are pretty much on the more useless side here anyhow.

Hancock better at everything? Speed and strength is arguable and heat vision would most likely affect him. GTFO saying Hancock can solo.

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He is significantly better at anything shown out of Clark in MoS. Hancock has a casual drunkin whale toss feat that beats anything Superman remotely showed for strength (with unbelievable ease) and frankly better everything else. He was simply depicted significantly better in his own film in contrary to Clark that gets KOed three times in his own film.

Clark's heat-ray vision melted a steel beam in moments. Zod's uncontrolled blast destroyed enough of the building's support the center of it to fall over after about a thirty seconds. Hancock's invulnerability / healing factor should manage.

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He is significantly better at anything shown out of Clark in MoS. Hancock has a casual drunkin whale toss feat that beats anything Superman remotely showed for strength (with unbelievable ease) and frankly better everything else. He was simply depicted significantly better in his own film in contrary to Clark that gets KOed three times in his own film.

Clark's heat-ray vision melted a steel beam in moments. Zod's uncontrolled blast destroyed enough of the building's support the center of it to fall over after about a thirty seconds. Hancock's invulnerability / healing factor should manage.

Tossing a whale to Supes in the beginning off the film holding up that tower and he grew a lot stronger late on. Like breaking through the World Breaker or whatever it was called.

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#23  Edited By patrat18

The only problem here is Surfer and Hancock. That being said team wins.

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@thitiki said:

@isaac_clarke said:

He is significantly better at anything shown out of Clark in MoS. Hancock has a casual drunkin whale toss feat that beats anything Superman remotely showed for strength (with unbelievable ease) and frankly better everything else. He was simply depicted significantly better in his own film in contrary to Clark that gets KOed three times in his own film.

Clark's heat-ray vision melted a steel beam in moments. Zod's uncontrolled blast destroyed enough of the building's support the center of it to fall over after about a thirty seconds. Hancock's invulnerability / healing factor should manage.

Tossing a whale to Supes in the beginning off the film holding up that tower and he grew a lot stronger late on.

This:

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Does not compare well to this:

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The whale toss feat is signfiicantly better. A lot better than speculation on how strong Superman is at the end of the film (which he really has zero reason to be physically stronger).

Like breaking through the World Breaker or whatever it was called.

The World Engine - which is speculation at best to say has a drastically more potent effect at the beam than it does to the surrounding area in which the gravity distortion was simply crushing cars.

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@isaac_clarke: Sorry the videos aren't loading and thanks I knew it was World something just couldn't put my finger on it.

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@isaac_clarke: Standing upright under the world engine > Tossing whales.

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#27  Edited By theONEtaichou

Hasn't this been done to death?? MOS wins... the only thing I think stands a chance is Hancock coz of his NLF-esque depiction.

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@monsterstomp: Hahaha Hancock's nature makes it overrated himself. The character itself is undeniably invincible without his mortal, those are his rules and when you play by them, that's when you understand.

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MOS Superman is severely overrated.

Sure he might take down Hulk, Thor and GL rather easily, but not all of them together. At his best he could probably take Round 1, but in round 2, Full knowledge and bloodlust? I'm sure SS could think of something. Pretty damn sure Supes can't take them all at once, and this is discounting Hancock's ridiculous no-partner invincibility.

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@isaac_clarke: Standing upright under the world engine > Tossing whales.

we dont know how much augmented the gravity.

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#32  Edited By MonsterStomp

@monsterstomp said:

@isaac_clarke: Standing upright under the world engine > Tossing whales.

we dont know how much augmented the gravity.

It was crushing skyscrapers. If you threw a whale on the roof of a skyscraper, it'd do zilch.

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@eternaldecider: Hulk Thor are meaningless. GL is the only threat (as well as Hancock).

Surfer is gonna do what, make holes in the ground?

good day

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Team wins both rounds

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#35  Edited By RBT

MoS get s stomped both rounds. Hancock alone can give him a hell of fight. Adding Surfer to it makes it a stomp. Rest won't have to do anything.

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#37  Edited By isaac_clarke

@isaac_clarke: Standing upright under the world engine > Tossing whales.

Speculation at best. We have no reason to assume the force is anymore at the beam than at the cars. We aren't even entirely sure what purpose the beam served.

It could be...

  • How the Earth's core gained mass.
  • What kept both engines connected.
  • Or just a bright light for added effect.

It certainly isn't established in the film.

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@monsterstomp said:

@isaac_clarke: Standing upright under the world engine > Tossing whales.

we dont know how much augmented the gravity.

It was crushing skyscrapers. If you threw a whale on the roof of a skyscraper, it'd do zilch.

Building's aren't designed to have their weight radically altered repeatedly and I doubt Metropolis was designed with earthquakes in mind so I doubt the repeated pulsing causing tremors to knock said buildings over helped much. Regardless whatever effect it would have on a buildings wouldn't be the same to Clark.

Not to mention Hancock did this showing with more of a flicking motion and no-one in Man of Steel remotely had that kind of strength displayed throughout the film struggling with significantly less.

@eternaldecider: Hulk Thor are meaningless. GL is the only threat (as well as Hancock).

Surfer is gonna do what, make holes in the ground?

good day

The Surfer kinda blew up Galactus at the end of the movie. (We could assume BFRed - but given that universe got hit with the retcon stick as far as we know be actually destroyed the planet devouring monster cloud at the end). There's also absorbing Superman into his board making him cease to exist and whatever unknown effect mere interaction with Norrin will have given everyone he touches or blasts has their molecules go haywire.

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#38  Edited By theONEtaichou

@theonetaichou said:

@eternaldecider: Hulk Thor are meaningless. GL is the only threat (as well as Hancock).

Surfer is gonna do what, make holes in the ground?

good day

The Surfer kinda blew up Galactus at the end of the movie. (We could assume BFRed - but given that universe got hit with the retcon stick as far as we know be actually destroyed the planet devouring monster cloud at the end). There's also absorbing Superman into his board making him cease to exist and whatever unknown effect mere interaction with Norrin will have given everyone he touches or blasts has their molecules go haywire.

The Surfer kinda blew up a... cloud! I know people want to ascribe even vague power to the 'cloud' (based on their knowledge from the comic books) but unless said 'cloud' did something to warrant any accolade other than the name "Destroyer" I don't know what to make of that feat. He is just implied power. And considering how weak sauce (love the term :p) SS was in the film, the 'cloud' being blown up makes the feat even less impressive IMHO. Meh!

As for Absorbing Superman... people always bring this up and I always wonder... in a fight what is the most plausible and logical thing for an opponent to do? Hit a board or the silver guy's head or torso? Why would Superman fly into the board instead of punching SS in the face or body? Why MUST he go for the board? And considering how fast MOS was fighting Zod in the end in Metropolis how would SS (who has negligible speed at best) trap MOS in his board, unless MOS was stupid and literally went into the board like the missile instead of... I don't know, change direction and move super fast around SS and punch 'im in the face, no? Always wondered that mate...

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@jedixman said:

Team, mostly because of Surfer. I don't see the others lasting very long.

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#40  Edited By isaac_clarke

Said 'cloud' sucked the life-force out of planets destroying them (we see this in the film) and was significantly larger than the Earth itself.

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The fact the Silver Surfer survives destroying Galactus (at least in the context of the film he does) gives - cloud or not - he's blasting away something on the scale of a planet puts him beyond Zod and his crew by multitudes.

As for Absorbing Superman... people always bring this up and I always wonder... in a fight what is the most plausible and logical thing for an opponent to do?

Superman happily bullrushes his opponents (not even that well given he has to grab them from a relatively close distance to do anything to them and he still hurts himself in the process) all the Surfer needs to do is react like he does to the missile - bam no more Superman.

It's not like Kryponians show that kind of power at all in their film. One of the most overhyped feats in the film consists of Clark over-powering a gravity distortion and blowing up something the size of a building flying through it, the explosion of which knocks him out.

Hit a board or the silver guy's head or torso? Why would Superman fly into the board instead of punching SS in the face or body? Why MUST he go for the board? And considering how fast MOS was fighting Zod in the end in Metropolis how would SS (who has negligible speed at best) trap MOS in his board,

And the Surfer also sports intangibility, honestly better reaction / flight speed showings (Zod's reaction time in MOS was awful), higher end destructive power showings (he was creating giant holes in the ground) and so on.

unless MOS was stupid and literally went into the board like the missile instead of... I don't know, change direction and move super fast around SS and punch 'im in the face, no? Always wondered that mate...

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Considering how brain-dead and naive the entire cast of characters in the film are, I wouldn't put it past them. They happily bullrush, grapple or sit there like dopes to get hit by things repeatedly throughout the film. The Phantom-hole is what kills them all.

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Team wins easily.

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#42  Edited By godzilla44

The team wins handily.

On a side note, Hancock looks like a dumbass.

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#43  Edited By Fallschirmjager

this :

@patrat18 said:

The only problem here is Surfer and Hancock. That being said team wins.

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Team wins this one easily. They would each put up a hell of a fight solo, and I could argue that Hancock and SS could possibly win this on their own. SS abilities could trash MOS and Hancock is invincible without his partner near him. He's literally a God.

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Wow. So much Handcock/SS fanboyism and speculation going on it's not even funny.

No one on the team has feats CLOSE to MoS's speed. Superman's invulnerability at least matches Hancock. I don't remember once seeing him get damaged, bleed, or be visibly injured.

All that said, the team can PROBABLY take down Kal if they work in tandem.

We don't know what the upper limits of Hancocks invulnerability/strength are. You can just assume he's infinitely strong/invulnerable. You can only go by the highest levels he showed ON SCEEN.

Hancock vs Superman Invulnerability feats: Superman

Hancock vs Superman fighting skills: Superman (Hancock had one opponent with any sort of power and she wasn't going full out against him)

Hancock vs Superman speed: Superman

Hancock vs Superman strength: In my mind destroying the world engine and holding up the oil rig >>> throwing a small whale....but i suppose it's debatable.