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Who would win?

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Superman defeats Asgard

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been done - a lot.

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Mcu thor. He is much more durable. He can hit muchh harder like he did in bifrost. Mos can't even harm someone with his durability. There is no way he harms Thor. Mcu thor is underrated because of Avengers. He loked puny in Avengers. If he wanted to kill hulk he can one shot hulk. Hulk hit him in the nose and nothing happend. He is much more durable than hulk+ he has armour.

---Been done

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close...

clark is faster though..

and yeah... done many times before

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@ssj_god: clark is faster but mjølnir has some very good speed feats in the dark world. Can thor fly this fast with mjølnir ? If yes then thor is faster

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@ssj_god: clark is faster but mjølnir has some very good speed feats in the dark world. Can thor fly this fast with mjølnir ? If yes then thor is faster

well.. i meant faster in combat speed.. sure thor can travel fast with mjolnir.

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@ssj_god: in Mos Supe wasn't that impressive in combat speed but still faster than Thor

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#9  Edited By DrF8

Supes destroys Thor

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Oh it's *this* debate again.

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#12 thedailybagel  Moderator

Clark could probably take on the mcu avengers and win.

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When will the Eternal debate end?

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@thedailybagel: maybe. But he has some very impressive striking feats. Like in bifrost and battle with malekith. Except this two hits he has 0 impressive feats.

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Durability:

Thor - Multiton boulder tossed at him at a few hundred miles an hour, gets up a bit scuffed and stunned. Boulder explodes on impact.

Superman - Whacked in the head and stunned by Zod wielding a small piece of steel girder from a construction site ( a Metal I-Beam ). No damage to I-Beam after.

Winner: Thor

Fight Speed

Superman - Clearly able to fly in a straight line at Mach speed, but unable to escape the grasp of giant metal tentacles.

Thor - Clearly not able to fly at Mach speed without Mjolnir, with it I am pretty certain he can. As seen in the end fight with Malekith, Mjolnir was burning up in the Atmosphere from moving so quickly.

Winner: Superman probably, I think it takes time for Mjolnir to build speed.

Combat Speed

Superman - Hard to judge, but Blur worthy for short distances.

Thor - Nowhere near Blur speeds to the human eye.

Winner: Superman

Reactionary Speed

Superman - Can't see it more than a few times Mach speed, but debatable for sure.

Thor - Able to swat away laser/energy blasts from The Destroyer Armor with ease.

Winner: Thor

Physical Strength

Superman - Unable to brace perhaps 50-100 ton structure, a partial piece of the oil rig.

Thor - Went toe to toe with someone wielding the Power Gem

Winner: Thor

Best Attack/Resource

Superman Laser vision - Zods Laser vision was unable to cut through thick cement walls and metal structures that lay beyond in the final scene of MoS. If it had, thousands would be sliced in half miles away down the road. Supermans laser vision couldnt quickly melt the I-Beam Zod smacked him with, and it took him a fair amount of time to burn a hole in solid ice with it.

Thor in general - As Thor is totally immune to heat, Supermans Laser vision would have no effect. However, Thors Lightning is composed of pure Asgardian high tier magic, he is a magically endowed being to begin with so all of his strikes would devastate Superman.

Winner: Thor

Overall Winner: Thor and we've yet to see him invoke Warriors Madness.

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Like the comics, supes has speed advantage, thor as striking advantage.

Unlike comics, speed dif isn't so ridiculous, so thor

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Superman wins

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#20  Edited By christianrapper

superman for the win

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Everybody lost their minds when Hulk one shotted one of those Chitauri beats, but if you actually watch the movie, Thor silently one shotted 4 of them. Just as a side comment to people saying the Avengers made Thor look bad. Regarding this, Thor takes this, basically because Mjolnir levels the flight/speed playing field, and provides Thor with an easy way to fry Clark.

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#22  Edited By nwname  Moderator

@namor_curry: Thanks. It is so true. Like I said Avengers made thor look bad. Hulk hit thor in the nose and nothing happend. He one shoted 3 or 4 leviathans. But everyone thinks Hulk is stronger.

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I thought Superman would take this but after reading the comics I see Thor could win too. Speed isn't everything and mjolnir is pretty fast itself.

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I'd have to go with MOS Superman, because the movies of Thor haven't really captured the character in his entirety. They don't go into any detail on what all Mjolnir can do, and it doesn't do half of what it's capable of in comics. Just haven't been overly impressed with Movie Thor.

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Mcu thor. He is much more durable. He can hit muchh harder like he did in bifrost. Mos can't even harm someone with his durability. There is no way he harms Thor. Mcu thor is underrated because of Avengers. He loked puny in Avengers. If he wanted to kill hulk he can one shot hulk. Hulk hit him in the nose and nothing happend. He is much more durable than hulk+ he has armour.

---Been done

Everybody lost their minds when Hulk one shotted one of those Chitauri beats, but if you actually watch the movie, Thor silently one shotted 4 of them. Just as a side comment to people saying the Avengers made Thor look bad. Regarding this, Thor takes this, basically because Mjolnir levels the flight/speed playing field, and provides Thor with an easy way to fry Clark.

this thor kicks clarks a$$ he is a better fighter stronger more durable and with mjoinir faster

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Clark has this, Thor had some alright showings but nouthing special, plus Thor him self has not been in a big fight.

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Only main villain thor has defeated was loki..and he seemed to be on par with thor. Thor could barely handle ironmans suit..his lighting is weak. He couldn't kill ironman or that elf with his best shot. Lets not get started how kurse made thors fight seem as a school teacher battle with big show.. .thor bleeds to much . injured by small daggers and rocks. If it bleeds..sups can kill it..thor is not even on par to tank a regular 9mm bullet without bleeding. Not to mention that thor was scared falling from that man made prison chamber without dying. .thor and his hammer literally gets melted

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LOL MOS stomps

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Superman wins.

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#31  Edited By MrUnsmiley

This has been done multiple times, hasn't it?

Superman stomps. Much better durability and strength, faster too.

Thor had trouble because Loki slipped a knife in-between his ribs. He has no chance here.

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Thor couldn't handle Iron Man...

He got pierced with a knife by Loki...

Where is this high durability coming from?!

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#33  Edited By Frisky4

Only one thing is sure in this fight: they both manage to kill many innocent people and realize our worst fears of urban terrorism.

I actually think Supes, though.

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#34 nwname  Moderator

@transformaa: @archanfel: Fight with ironman was P.I.S. And that blades are made out of unknown matterial and they are probably magical. He can one shot ironman. Watch Thor's first film. See what he did in Bifrost. And he survived a little town sized explosion caused by death of destroyer without any trouble.

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Durability:

Thor - 5 to 10 ton boulder tossed at him at a few hundred miles an hour, gets up a bit scuffed and stunned. Boulder explodes on impact.

He was cut up and bleeding and Supes was never bleeding in the the whole film. Thor was almost KO when he crashed inside the Hulk container and Supes fell from space and was just fine.

Superman - Whacked in the head and stunned by Zod wielding a small piece of steel girder from a construction site ( a Metal I-Beam ). No damage to I-Beam after.

wow way to low-ball, you must have forgotten about the World Engine feat or when they were creating shock waves with their punches and destroying buildings with their punches and Thor's strike to Malekith only cracked the road a bit and break windows.

Fight Speed

Superman - Clearly able to fly in a straight line at Mach speed, but unable to escape the grasp of giant metal tentacles.

You must have bad memory? When he was fighting the tentacles he was being weakend at the same time (Why he was coughing) and he was able to dodge a couple attacks from it.

Thor - Clearly not able to fly at Mach speed without Mjolnir, with it I am pretty certain he can. As seen in the end fight with Malekith, Mjolnir was burning up in the Atmosphere from moving so quickly.

Yet Thor never did

Winner: Superman probably, I think it takes time for Mjolnir to build speed.

Combat Speed

Superman - Hard to judge, but Blur worthy for short distances.

Thor - Nowhere near Blur speeds to the human eye.

Winner: Superman

Reactionary Speed

Superman - Can't see it more than a few times Mach speed, but debatable for sure.

Thor - Able to swat away laser/energy blasts from The Destroyer Armor with ease.

It was easy you could clearly see it took time to charge up and Nolan Batman had better Reaction speeds

Winner: even

Physical Strength

Superman - Unable to brace perhaps 200-300 ton structure, a partial piece of the oil rig.

Thor - Went toe to toe with someone wielding the Power Gem

Wow the feat-less Power Gem. Supes fought 3 different Kryptonians, all them had better feats then Malekith

Winner: Superman

Best Attack/Resource

Superman Laser vision - Zods Laser vision was unable to cut through thick cement walls and metal structures that lay beyond in the final scene of MoS. If it had, thousands would be sliced in half miles away down the road. Supermans laser vision couldnt quickly melt the I-Beam Zod smacked him with, and it took him a fair amount of time to burn a hole in solid ice with it.

Again good job lowballing Zod's heat vision was able to cut a biulding in half, Supes did cut the I-beam in half and it also hurt the other Kryptonians that tanked A-10 bullets.

Thor in general - As Thor is totally immune to heat, Supermans Laser vision would have no effect. However, Thors Lightning is composed of pure Asgardian high tier magic, he is a magically endowed being to begin with so all of his strikes would devastate Superman.

When was it stated he was immune to heat? MOS has never been stated vulnerable to magic and by the way MCU Thor isn't magic which was stated in Thor 1.

Winner: Superman

Overall Winner: Superman

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@transformaa: @archanfel: Fight with ironman was P.I.S. And that blades are made out of unknown matterial and they are probably magical. He can one shot ironman. Watch Thor's first film. See what he did in Bifrost. And he survived a little town sized explosion caused by death of destroyer without any trouble.

No it's not PIS that's Thor's level of fighting. Nope not magic as confirmed in Thor 1. It took him repeated shots to the same spot and it was the bridge that caused that colorful explosion not his hammer. He survived what?

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#40  Edited By Experio

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Superman would likely stomp this Thor with minimal difficulty.

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#42  Edited By Transformaa

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2: no!! iron man could one shot thor if he wanted to. He was the one that was holding back. Thor gave ironman everything he had including lighting..If ironman used his lasers and missile launchers, ..'it would of been a done deal victory for ironman. .his hammer barely scratched ironmans titanium..plus loki daggers did more damage to thor vs thors hammer damage on loki

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@michaeljulius: @godzilla44: You are both wrong. Both of you are underrating other chracter. For durability we can't know weight of that boulder. If its normal it would be 100-200 ton not 5-10. But we can't know since its from another planet. And why peoples are thinking world engine is that impressive ? It makes gravity stronger so it makes millions of times more force against building than it does to Supe because buildins are millions of times heavier than supe.

In durability:

Mos:Can survive but got KOed bad by a cruise missle(=700kg TNT)

Thor:He tanked a little town sized explosion which seem bigger than explosion of a cruise missle without any trouble.

Winner: Thor.

Hitting power:

Mos:His best hit shown when he and Zod charged into the other.

Thor:His best hit shown is the hit he did in Bifrost.

Winner: Thor with a very big difference.

Speed:

Mos: He can fly at mach 3+ in atmosphere. In space: he can fly at mach ~500

Thor: he can't fly at mach 1 in atmosphere. But mjølnir can. In space: we haven't seen him flying in space but mjølnir was much faster than mach 500 in Space.

Winner: Superman with a big difference.

Combat speed:

Definetely Superman wins.

In physical strenght:

This doesn't matter in this fight because thor has mjølnir. But

Mos: Nam-ek throwed a 100ton train like 100 feets. And supe is probably stronger than him at the end.

Thor: Hulk stopped a leviathan. And thor is equal in physichal strenght with Hulk. He stopped hulks hand with one hand his other hand was on top of hulks. We can't know the weight of a leviqthan but probably 500+ ton range.

Winner: IDK. probably Superman.

Overall winner: Thor. He can hit much harder than Cavil supe. He is much more durable(superman can't hurt someone with his durability). But Supe is much faster than Thor in both Flying speed and Combat speed. So suoe will get much more hits of but if Thor hits him like in Bifrost he can one shot Supe.

Note: there is no weakness of mos like magic or yet.

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@nwgzsjuwhm96y2:

exactly thor outclasses him in strength fighting ability durabuliy and energy output

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#47  Edited By Transformaa

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2: explain why I am wrong..thor used his best primary attacks on ironman..Does nothing much to ironman..Ironmans holds back his primary weapons...and still was on par with thor..than thor tried to kill CA but did nothing but humiliate himself to the guy he just tried to crush!

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#48 nwname  Moderator

@transformaa: So you are serious. Watch thor vs Frost giants. And Ironman can't hurt Thor even a little bit. If thor wants to kill he sure can kill ironman with ease. Thor is in another league.

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@transformaa: if you looked closely when Thor head butted iron man it dented the armor. Whedon even says so in the commentary.

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@sasukemilesmorales: What is Thor's best strength feat exactly?

Durability wise Thor is utterly bewildered by a rock getting thrown at him. MoS tanked slamming his own face THROUGH a mountain and making a crater in the ground on the other side and his reaction was a facepalm. The cruise missile was stated to be equivalent to being full force tackled... last time I checked being tackled wasn't nearly being KO'd especially if you brace for the hit.

Even then, AGM-65 that the A-10 fired at Faora seemed to do basically no damage. That's like half a tomahawk anyways.

Thor's lightning has only successfuly used his lightning ONCE against a named opponent. Iron Man. It didn't even short out his armor and did nothing to Tony inside.

MoS was much stronger than Nam-Ek, you'll notice in the battle between Superman and Faora/Nam-Ek Superman is being double teamed on the ground and catches a full force blow from Nam-Ek by the wrist and holds him there.