Battle of the Most Powerful Telepaths..
MOONDRAGON
@heirtothekingdom: @wastelandman: What
has MD done that's above Jean? I can't think of one notable telepath that MD beat in a to battle.
Moondragon hasn't had much chances to battle other telepaths as she mostly resides in space, has far fewer appearances than Jean, and has been given no reason to battle Earth's telepaths but by feats she should be above Jean:
1) She Didn't enslave the whole planet. She enslaved the few people who ruled the planet. It's mentioned in that same comic.
Nope.
That was a lie she told the Avengers so they wouldn't interfere. The very scan I posted is after the Avengers become suspicious and Thor asking if what the Avengers initially suspected was true and Moondragon confirming it:
"Have you indeed, as I suspect, seized total control of this world?"
"Yes....I have!"
Read the comic yourself it's from Avengers #219. So again, it really tops anything Jean has done.
At that point none of the Avengers had any TP feats.
I don't see why it matters that it hasn't happened yet it's not like it's retconned it still happened.
She helped Thanos contact Galactus. That was the end of her involvement. Galactus allowed them inside his mind. Then when Galactus felt Thanos taking charge, he immediately repelled Thanos.
Reread the dialogue he did do as Thanos said and blinked his eyes but he had no idea what the result would have been.
5) Dr. Strange has good TP resistance. Not offensive TP. And he used magic not TP to alter memories on Earth.
You realize everything Strange does is magic based, right? Including his mental powers. He can read minds and alter thoughts etc. etc. By definition he has telepathy the only difference is it's just magic based.
6) It is a very brief battle. And while Stranger is Powerful he's not a TP master. But Iron Man admits that she is no match for Stranger.
He's a cosmic powerhouse far more powerful than Jean and even if though she would have lost it's still more impressive than Jean.
Looking at your own scans, she has defeated NO ONE who is a TP master. Not a single TP master. Just because she battled some people doesn't make her on their level. Puma has battled and stalemated Thor. That doesn't make him as powerful as Thor. And while Dr. Strange and Stranger are powerful. They are not considered TP masters.
Jean DEFEATED Xavier, Mastermind, defeated Juggernaut with his helmet on, Emma Frost, Magneto with his helmet on, she has even mind controlled demons from another dimension.
Again, Moon dragon has had very little opportunity to ever battle Earth's telepaths as she lives mainly in space and has massively fewer appearances than Jean. By that same logic, Jean can beat anyone including abstracts via telepathy simply because they haven't battled telepaths.
IMO her victories are greater then Moondragons stalemates.
None of which tops planetary mind control.
@wastelandman: Post 11 of this link proves that she only enslaved the world leaders. She admits that she can't end the insurrection.. If she was controlling the whole planet then war would be over. Then she says "I maintain a constant report with people of GREAT POWER AND INFLUENCE". She is not controlling the general population. Just the people in charge.
So she enslaved some world leaders who have ZERO TP feats. She did NOT defeat Stranger. She did NOT defeat Dr. Strange. So I'll ask again: who has she defeated that has TP feats?
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/emma-frost-vs-moondragon-644508/
*facepalm*
You really should have read the story for yourself I gave you the issue number and everything.......Again, she lied about not being able to end the insurrection. She CAUSED the "rebellion" to distract the Avengers and make them buy into her lie about not enslaving the planet:
They were under control of Moondragon like the rest of the planet:
And at that point the Avengers realized she had lied to them and had enslaved the planet:
"We've been played for suckers! Moondragon has taken over this planet"
I don't know how much clearer I can get. How about instead of taking the word of a random forum post by a user who clearly has no idea about what they're talking about you read the story for yourself? Again the issue is Avengers #219 as well as read Avengers #220 for the full picture.
Bringing abstracts to the equation is a red herring.
Metaphor*
Moondragon has been an avenger and Infinity watch. Moondragon has been an avenger and Infinity watch. She has had many chances to prove herself.
And she has by enslaving a planet.
@wastelandman: The dude says that " thousands of others were similar mysteriously compelled". So she enslaved thousands of people with no TP feats.... that's like Shang Chi beating dozens of fodder Hand soldiers. That's not a good feat. A good feat is when he beats someone who actually has some skill like Cap or Iron Fist.
So we have Moondragon TPing a planet of people with no TP feats. Those are the only people she actually defeated in a TP battle. A lot of people with ZERO TP feats. Quality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Quantity. Here is Jean DEFEATING fodder like MD does and affecting people with actual TP feats.
and now she can turn physic energy into physical bolts of energy. She can turn MD power against her.
@wastelandman: The dude says that " thousands of others were similar mysteriously compelled". So she enslaved thousands of people with no TP feats.... that's like Shang Chi beating dozens of fodder Hand soldiers. That's not a good feat. A good feat is when he beats someone who actually has some skill like Cap or Iron Fist.
............No. She didn't just enslave thousands that was referring to how many she made out of the entire population to form the fake rebellion. She explicitly state she's controlling many millions:
Again, (for like, what, the fourth time?) why don't you read the issues yourself instead of making false claims about a story you clearly know nothing about?
and now she can turn physic energy into physical bolts of energy. She can turn MD power against her.
.......Moondragon can turn psychic energy into physical bolts too and even shields:
What's your point? What difference does that make?
Also, everything else you posted doesn't compare to mind controlling a planet.
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