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Moon Knight (current version w/morals)  
Carbonadium armor   
Twin Gauntlets (that fire crescent darts-10 per gauntlet) 
Adamantium Truncheon (can be modified to nunchaku) 
Grappling Hook

 
 
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Kraven (Sergei-classic version) 
20 Poison Darts  (capable of incapacitating a regular human for 20 seconds) 
Serum Amplified Strength (1 Ton for this thread) 
Twin Hunting Knives 
Highly Durable Net (Capable of restraining Any standard street leveler for 15 seconds) 

 
Scenario: 
Yankees Stadium in the Bronx, New York City. Moon Knight has been instructed to bring in Kraven for SHIELD questioning. He has one hour prep. This fight takes place at midnight and there is a full moon. Moon Knight enters the open stadium from the Yankees dugout and he sees Kraven leap over the centerfield wall. (Roughly 400 feet away) Kraven realizes he is being pursued but is not familiar with Spector.  
 
Any thoughts? 
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#2  Edited By Power NeXus

I'm leaning towards Kraven, but I'd like to see what k4tz and the other street level experts have to say.

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sorry for the underline crap. It went haywire on me.  
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#4  Edited By OldIdiotAccount

Kraven. He Uses His Poison Darts To Incapacitate Moon Knight And Then Uses His Knives To Decapitate Moon Knight.

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#5  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Power NeXus:
LOL thanks.  Well, you may be happy to know I'm in agreement with you.  Kraven should win.
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@k4tzm4n said:
"@Power NeXus:LOL thanks.  Well, you may be happy to know I'm in agreement with you.  Kraven should win."
Hahaha did someone turn on the K4T signal? That was faaaaasssttttt.
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#7  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

mOON kNIGHT
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#8  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Vance Astro said:
"mOON kNIGHT LOSES "
Fixed.
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#9  Edited By spidey 15

Well. I'm really sure about that but MK should be more skilled fighter than Kraven. MK's armor and weapons can be good help add and the prep and MK should have the advantage here.
BUT
Kraven is a skilled opponet too and he is physically better. He also has shown great durability in his fights with spidey.
Kraven's darts should be useless if kraven hit parts of the body that are protected from the armor. If he manage to hit him in parts that aren't cover then he might get the magority.
Not to mention his net, which is an easier way to  incapacitate his opponet.
I'm not really sure who wins. I'm leaning more to Kraven due to superior gear but MK's prep should help.=]

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#10  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Vance Astro said:
" mOON kNIGHT "
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#11  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Vance Astro said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" mOON kNIGHT LOSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
"
Professor k4tz has fixed your essay.
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#13  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"Moon Knight loses"


Jeez, I don't know why so many people are failing this exam.  I've fixed your work too.
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#14  Edited By spidey 15
@k4tzm4n: Did i do well in the exams, professor k4tzm4n?=]
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#15  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@spidey 15:
Actually, yes.  Kraven's equipment here allows him to take out Spector.  The net and the poison darts provide him a huge advantage.
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#16  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

lol K4tz.I really think Moon Knight wins though.I think Yankee Stadium is beyond the adequate enviornment for him to excel in combat.

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#17  Edited By spidey 15
@k4tzm4n: Yoooohooooo!!!!!!!!!! My mother will be proud of me....
 
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@k4tzm4n said:
" @spidey 15:
Actually, yes.  Kraven's equipment here allows him to take out Spector.  The net and the poison darts provide him a huge advantage. "
Crap, I was going for the opposite with his armor neutralizing the darts. :-( 
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#19  Edited By spidey 15
@Jake Fury: The armor doesn't protect all of his body.=]
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#20  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:
"@spidey 15:
Actually, yes.  Kraven's equipment here allows him to take out Spector.  The net and the poison darts provide him a huge advantage. "

How do those things give him a huge advantage in such a wide open environment?
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@spidey 15: Phooey on me for being misinformed. 
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#22  Edited By spidey 15
@Jake Fury: It's ok.=]
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@spidey 15: I still think its a pretty even fight. 
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#24  Edited By spidey 15
@Jake Fury: And it is. It might go either way imo. But Kraven's gear seems to give him a slightly majority here.=]
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@k4tzm4n said:
"@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"Moon Knight loses"
Jeez, I don't know why so many people are failing this exam.  I've fixed your work too. "
Like Vance said, Kraven is at a major disadvantage in any kind of stadium. He's going to have a hard time closing the distance, based on all the aisles, stairwells, etc. he may have to pass through. Moon Knight's carbanadium armor makes this a lock, as his gauntlets are probably going to be the deciding factor.
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#26  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@spidey 15:
@Jake Fury: 
 @Vance Astro:
Sergei has been proven to aim for the neck and facial region with his poison darts...These regions are not protected on Moon Knight.  The dart alone can render him combat ineffective and make him an easy target to defeat.  Then there's the fact the environment gives him no real option for dodging or taking cover. We've seen Sergei tag Spider-Man with a single shot as well as an in motion Black Widow.  Now, Sergei has 20 of these to fire...Then there's the net which based on the OP, will incapacitate Moon Knight for a total of 15 seconds.  More than enough time to inflict critical damage.  
 
After all, we just saw Sergei slit Kain's throat before he could even defend himself LOL
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@spidey 15: I tried to balance it out with some of Moony's classic gear. I think if he can keep his distance and not stand toe to toe with Sergei he can beat him. He'll definitely have to avoid a dart shot and the net. 
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#28  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"@k4tzm4n said:
"@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"Moon Knight loses"
Jeez, I don't know why so many people are failing this exam.  I've fixed your work too. "
Like Vance said, Kraven is at a major disadvantage in any kind of stadium. He's going to have a hard time closing the distance, based on all the aisles, stairwells, etc. he may have to pass through. Moon Knight's carbanadium armor makes this a lock, as his gauntlets are probably going to be the deciding factor. "


They start ON the field, in the OPEN.  Based on the Kravinoff's style of combat, he's going to make full use of those poison darts...And based on his reflexes and accuracy, I see it as being unlikely that Spector could dodge more than 2. 

 
And people need to stop praising the armor so much...There are plenty of gaps on it and it leaves his head/neck wide open 

 
 

 

 
 


 

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Actually in the OP Kraven is leaping over the outfield fence so he could be going anywhere....I meant it to be he was actually leaving the field...

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@k4tzm4n: My bad, I forgot that they're starting from infield to outfield
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#31  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

And if no one knows what I'm talking about regarding Kane, here you go: 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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#32  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"@k4tzm4n: My bad, I forgot that they're starting from infield to outfield "

It's cool.
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#33  Edited By spidey 15
@Jake Fury: That's true. But Kraven isn't slow though. He is possibly faster than MK, i can't see why he can't close the distance between them. He can win if he ultilize his skills. I can't see any other way. But according to the OP, Spector has prep, so he can plan a good plan against Kraven. But as i mentioned before, Kraven's gear are pretty good. I'm pretty sure he won't have a big problem incapacitating MK with the net.=]
 
@k4tzm4n:
Just a question. Is MK used to avoid projectiles?=]
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Anyhow, I'm beginning to lean towards Sergei now (although Alyosha would probably be an even tougher matchup for Moon Knight).

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#35  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@spidey 15:
Yes, he is.  Moon Knight has a fair amount of bullet dodging in his day, however current hasn't been nearly as skilled in terms of agility and reflexes.  Plus, I think Kraven's accuracy feats with the poison darts would allow him to dag Spector with at least one of the twenty shots, and one is all it takes to make the match extremely unfair.
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#36  Edited By spidey 15
@k4tzm4n: Oh, ok thanks. Indeed you are right, It's very likely for Kraven to tag him.=]
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#37  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"Anyhow, I'm beginning to lean towards Sergei now (although Alyosha would probably be an even tougher matchup for Moon Knight). "

It's funny.  Personally, I believe Sergei to be superior despite Alyosha having more impressive feats and stats lol
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#38  Edited By InnerVenom123
@Fortanono said:
" Kraven. He Uses His Poison Darts To Incapacitate Moon Knight And Then Uses His Knives To Decapitate Moon Knight. "
Carbonadium armor stops the darts.
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#39  Edited By spidey 15
@InnerVenom123: The armor doesn't cover all of his body there are some parts that aren't protected. Take a look at some scans that k4tz posted to see what i mean.=]
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#40  Edited By InnerVenom123
@spidey 15 said:
" @InnerVenom123: The armor doesn't cover all of his body there are some parts that aren't protected. Take a look at some scans that k4tz posted to see what i mean.=] "
I know, but MK could dodge a freaking poison dart in this environment.
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#41  Edited By spidey 15
@InnerVenom123: As k4tz said, current MK seems to be not as good at dodging as he used to be and from the 20 darts, only one is enough to slow down MK. I don't see why kraven can't do it. And let's not forget his net.=]
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@k4tzm4n said:
"@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"Anyhow, I'm beginning to lean towards Sergei now (although Alyosha would probably be an even tougher matchup for Moon Knight). "

It's funny.  Personally, I believe Sergei to be superior despite Alyosha having more impressive feats and stats lol "
Yeah, his fight with Human Torch is what really set him apart from the rest of the family in my eyes.
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Even if MK doesn't dodge every dart shot he can protect his vulnerable areas by covering his face & neck with the armor covering his hands or arms. 

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#44  Edited By InnerVenom123
@Jake Fury said:
" Even if MK doesn't dodge every dart shot he can protect his vulnerable areas by covering his face & neck with the armor covering his hands or arms.  "
Exactly.
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#45  Edited By spidey 15
@Jake Fury: I can't imagine MK doing something like this...=[
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Granted Kraven could still sneak up from behind or another angle but face to face at any distance its going to be tough. 

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#47  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:
"@spidey 15:
@Jake Fury: 
 @Vance Astro:
Sergei has been proven to aim for the neck and facial region with his poison darts...These regions are not protected on Moon Knight.  The dart alone can render him combat ineffective and make him an easy target to defeat.  Then there's the fact the environment gives him no real option for dodging or taking cover. We've seen Sergei tag Spider-Man with a single shot as well as an in motion Black Widow.  Now, Sergei has 20 of these to fire...Then there's the net which based on the OP, will incapacitate Moon Knight for a total of 15 seconds.  More than enough time to inflict critical damage.  
 
After all, we just saw Sergei slit Kain's throat before he could even defend himself LOL "

I don't see how any of that means he's going to take Moon Knight out.If he can dodge bullets he sure as hell can dodge darts from someone he's looking right at. Sergei has no chance for stealth and if this goes close Spector is going to kick his ass. Moon Knight doesn't need to cover...not that a stadium isn't filled with thousands od seats he can duck behind. Every street leveler has tagged Spider-Man,including Moon Knight. So that's not a factor either. And I still don't see how Sergei is going to make use of a net in this enviroment. Spector would have to be Rhino to get caught up like that.
 
Sergei slitting Kaine's throat before he could defend is obvious PIS considering their difference in stats.
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@spidey 15: LOL covering himself? 
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#49  Edited By spidey 15
@Jake Fury: Covering his neck...XD
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#50  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Jake Fury said:
"Even if MK doesn't dodge every dart shot he can protect his vulnerable areas by covering his face & neck with the armor covering his hands or arms.  "

Moon Knight also has weapons in which he can throw.Sure Kraven has darts but he doesn't have armor either. I think he's more likely to get hit seeing as how neither has any big agility or marksmanship advanatage and Moon Knight is the one with the armor.